
CleanTechies Podcast · 2026-07-03 · 56 min
#288 Lessons from 25,000 EV Ports: Scaling SWTCH Energy with Carter Li How do you bring EV charging to the millions of renters who don’t have a private driveway or garage? In this episode, Silas Mähner sits down with Carter Li , CEO and Founder of SWTCH Energy , to unpack how they are cracking the hardest puzzle in EV adoption: multi-family housing. Discover how SWTCH bypassed expensive grid upgrades to scale to over 25,000 charging ports, and get a masterclass on navigating the real estate life cycle and transitioning from founder-led sales to a 100-person organization. Listen Now Apple Podcasts | Spotify | YouTube | Pocket Casts Key Timestamps 00:00 - Intro & Special Announcement: The CleanTechies AI Chatbot. 03:03 - Meet Carter Li and the origin story of SWTCH Energy. 07:41 - The Multi-Family Problem: Why apartments struggle with EV infrastructure. 12:43 - Avoiding Grid Upgrades: How smart energy management saves buildings thousands. 16:46 - The Hidden Costs: Why labor and connectivity make up 80% of the bill. 21:18 - Business Models: Hardware-as-a-Service vs. Owning & Operating. 25:23 - Real Estate Timelines: Why developers look past short-term noise toward 2035.