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Change Proof

Change happens. Resilience expert Adam Markel and his inspiring guests teach you how to embrace and leverage change in order to thrive. No matter what life throws your way.

379 episodes · publishes fortnightly · latest 2026-06-16 · ~50 min/episode

Rank

#2543

Substance

64.0

/ 100

Breakdown

Scored 2026-07
Updated monthly

Leadership rank

#289 of 1041

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Across the index

#2543 of 6182

Substance

Top 41%

outscores 59% of the index

Why it scores where it does

Change Proof ranks #2543 on The B2B Podcast Index with a substance score of 64.0 out of 100, scored across 1 recent episode. It scores highest on guest caliber and insight density. Topshee is a genuine senior practitioner - CIO at Department of Justice, now Acting ADM/Chief Service and Digital Officer at Transport Canada, with earlier stints at British Telecom and Nortel Networks - not a career podcast guest. He has demonstrably done the work at scale in both sectors, though the episode format doesn't fully excavate the depth of that experience.

The five-dimension breakdown

Averaged across 1 recently scored episode, with cited evidence.

Insight Density

12.0 / 20

A handful of genuine observations surface - the cluster model for incremental IT delivery, the 'highest paid opinion rule,' and separating emotional attachment from ideas - but they're buried under extended rugby reminiscing, cocktail anecdotes, and host self-promotion. The actionable idea-per-minute ratio is low for a 45-minute episode.

“The worst way of making decisions is the highest paid opinion rule. It's absolutely the worst.”

“you end up with 400 different applications when we should really have like 10”

Originality

12.0 / 20

The HIPPO concept (here called 'highest paid opinion rule') and the philosophy-trained habit of separating emotional investment from the argument are mildly fresh framings, but the bulk of the episode - fail fast, team cohesion, evidence-based decisions, blameless culture - is thoroughly recycled leadership orthodoxy with no contrarian or first-principles challenge.

“in philosophy, you irritate early on, you realize it's much, much easier to tear apart other people's ideas than to actually come up with your own new ideas for how to do things”

“you often in some places more likely to get rewarded for self promotion and for making a big case”

Guest Caliber

17.0 / 20

Topshee is a genuine senior practitioner - CIO at Department of Justice, now Acting ADM/Chief Service and Digital Officer at Transport Canada, with earlier stints at British Telecom and Nortel Networks - not a career podcast guest. He has demonstrably done the work at scale in both sectors, though the episode format doesn't fully excavate the depth of that experience.

“I think that's probably our biggest challenge is that how do we find the right kind of enterprise perspective and the kind of person, sometimes we call them unicorns in my space”

“I would never stay in a place that kind of has that toxic sort of culture”

Specificity & Evidence

12.0 / 20

Named organizations (Nortel Networks, Transport Canada, Department of Justice, British Telecom) and one concrete numerical claim (400 apps vs. 10) provide modest grounding, and the 4pm departure anecdote is vivid. However, there are zero hard metrics, project outcomes, budget figures, or timelines to substantiate any of the cultural or technological claims made.

“I can distinctly remember back when I worked for, in the private sector, I worked in an organization at Nortel Networks many years ago”

“well, he just left for the day right at 4:00 clock or whatever. And we're wandering around looking for him as ah, three of his colleagues are desperately trying to meet a deadline”

Conversational Craft

11.0 / 20

The host asks some reasonable questions ('How important is it to be able to fail?') but routinely answers them himself with long personal monologues about rugby, lifeguarding, and legal training, consuming guest airtime without generating new insight. There is no pushback, no challenge to any claim, and mid-episode ad reads further fracture whatever momentum the conversation builds.

“How important is it to be able to fail?”

“My training as a lawyer, and first as an English major in different than philosophy, but similar in that literary criticism, was about making an argument”

Standout episodes

  • Building A Healthy Work Culture With Dugald Topshee

    2026-06-16

    64

Rank over time

First period on the Index - history builds from here.

Episodes

1 scored on substance · 60 tracked in total.

  • Building A Healthy Work Culture With Dugald Topshee

    2026-06-16 · 45 min

    64 / 100

Frequently asked

What is Change Proof's substance score?
Change Proof scores 64.0 out of 100 for substance and ranks #2543 on The B2B Podcast Index. That puts it ahead of 59% of the B2B podcasts we rank and #289 of 1041 in Leadership. The score reflects insight density, originality, guest caliber, specificity and conversational craft across recent episodes - not downloads.
Is Change Proof worth listening to?
Yes - Change Proof outscores 59% of the B2B leadership podcasts and shows we rank on substance, so a leadership operator is likely to come away with something useful.
How often does Change Proof publish?
Change Proof publishes fortnightly, has 379 episodes, released its most recent episode on 2026-06-16.
Which Change Proof episode should I start with?
Our highest-scoring recent episode is "Building A Healthy Work Culture With Dugald Topshee" (64/100) - a good place to start.

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Guests who've appeared

Dugald Topshee

Topics this show covers

The themes that come up most across this show's episodes.

Transport CanadaChief Service and Digital Officer roleEnterprise system architectureCluster model for software deploymentEvidence-based decision-makingPhilosophy-based leadershipPublic sector digital transformationHighest paid opinion ruleBig bang deployment failuresCanadian federal government IT

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