S2 EP 25 Inside the Arizona Attorney General Race: Law, Power, and Statewide Impact

WEBVTT - S2 EP 25 Inside the Arizona Attorney General Race: Law, Power, and Statewide Impact Welcome. To Building Billions. Building a 10 million, 100 million, billion, or multibillion dollar business is actually based on three things consistency, velocity, and results. I built, scaled and exited and rebuilt many businesses in my career.

If you're serious about creating something that has real enterprise value, stay tuned. This is building billions with Brandon Dawson. So Rodney, talk a little bit about why you're the person that we want to have elected here in Arizona as attorney general. Well, Brandon, I'm running for attorney general to protect Arizona's law enforcement, to protect Arizona's kids and to protect Arizona's prosperity.

I'm a lieutenant colonel in the United States Air Force, JAG Corps. I'm a reservist. I've been prosecuting for over 17 years drug dealers, financial crimes and protecting victims of sexual assault. And now, when I put on my uniform to go out to Luke Air Force Base.

I run the active duty legal office of over 25 Jags, paralegals and support staff. I've also been a private attorney for almost 20 years, feeding my family, working as a commercial litigator, and a plaintiff's attorney. And why does all that matter? Because the attorney general in Arizona runs the largest law office in the state.

Over 400 attorneys and 1000 support staff providing all the legal services for every state agency. So the average person, the average person that doesn't quite understand what influence and impact the Attorney General position could have on behalf of the state. Define exactly the influence not just in the state, but the ability to reach beyond the borders of the state. Because currently we have an attorney general who's reaching beyond the borders of the state, trying to influence the nation.

We live in a state where President Trump won Arizona by over five percentage points, but we also live in a state with a Democrat attorney general who sued the administration 40 times in the past 15 months, 40 times. And the reason she can do that is because the attorney general is the most powerful and impactful elected official in the state. In Arizona, the AG doesn't work for the governor and doesn't work for the legislature. The attorney general is supposed to work for the people.

So as an attorney general, literally, you have unabated, unrestricted ability to reach around the nation, charge people, create chaos for people. I, Natalie, would like it, but I describe it as the wife or mom of government because at the end of the day, the attorney general is in charge. The governor has to convince the legislature. The mayor has to convince the council, but the attorney general is an independent elected official.

You can open up investigations. You can drive indictments through a grand jury. But most importantly, Brandon, you can protect Arizona and protect Arizonans when it comes to our law enforcement. I'm proud that the Maricopa County Sheriff, Jerry Sheridan, is the chairman of my campaign.

When I talk about protecting kids, the Superintendent of Public Instruction, Tom Horne, is a co-chair of my campaign. He gets elected to run the Department of Education. But guess how many lawyers the Department of Education has? None.

They're all assistant attorney generals who work for the elected attorney general, providing services to the Department of Education. We talk about real estate. There's over 60,000 realtors in Arizona. The.

The governor, Katie Hobbs, appoints the real estate commissioner. But guess how many attorneys. The Department of Real Estate has? None.

Those are assistant attorney generals, too. So the registrar of Contractors, the state Land department, none of those state agencies have their own attorneys. They're all assistant attorney generals. And that's why having an attorney general that's ran a law office, having an attorney general that has worked as a prosecutor, having an attorney general that's fed their family as a lawyer and has a career prosecuting and working on behalf of clients is so critical because if we want to have an attorney general that knows how to protect us, we need to have an attorney general that knows how to do the job.

So if I'm a blue collar business owner here, or if I'm a white collar business owner here and I'm trying to expand my business or get a certain things done in the state, you're telling me that the governor and the attorney general could literally be the deciding factor between my ability to expand. Add more employees, open new locations because they control the attorney generals or the assistant attorney generals. So talk a little bit about how that actually trickles down to the people that generate the economy inside of Arizona.

What kind of things do we not know? Because I'm just a business guy. I don't know how all this works. Right.

And so if I'm a business person, how much and what influence do those two groups of people have that could impact me negatively as a business owner? I'll tell you, the attorney general is much more impactful than the governor, because the attorney general is in charge of the lawyers. And at the end of the day, as a business guy, you know, lawyers can clog things up, lawyers can make things easier. So if you talk about a business person, a business person wants low taxes.

Remember when the teacher's union a couple of years ago went out and collected all those signatures to double Arizona State income taxes from. I came from Portland, Oregon. Down here. I decided to build a huge business here.

and all of a sudden I'm like, I'm moving out of state. It's like insanity. And that's that group, right? That's the teachers union collected all those signatures to double the state income taxes.

Arizona would have had one of the top ten income taxes in the country once it was called prop 208. Once prop two eight was put on the ballot, there was only one statewide elected official that had immediate standing that could have sued to kick that off the ballot. Guess who that would have been? The attorney general.

And when the attorney general didn't do that, Governor Ducey went out and raised millions of dollars for that. No. On 208 campaign. Remember seeing all those ads, but it still passed.

Once it passed, there was only one elected official that could have filed the lawsuit to keep it from going into effect, and that would have been the attorney general. When he didn't do that, Governor Ducey went out again to the business community, raised money to hire the Goldwater Institute to file the lawsuit that should have been filed by our attorney general. So when it comes to serving as the tip of the spear to protect Taxpayers. It's the attorney general.

So if I'm a resident and if I'm a business owner or a service provider, and I like the environment of low taxes, I like the environment of a supported police department, both county, state and local police. If I'm somebody who wants less crime, less taxes, more economy, economic opportunity here, and I want to be able to safely raise my children in Arizona without crime and problems. AM I hearing you correctly, that literally one office could hold the difference between that working for me or that working against me?

The reason the Maricopa County Sheriff is the chairman of my campaign is because there's only one statewide elected official They can protect the sheriff. And that's the Arizona attorney general. We have a a Democrat attorney general in Chris Mayes right now, who recently was on television talking to Arizonans about when she thinks it's okay for them to shoot law enforcement, to shoot Ice agents. That's not what we need in our chief law enforcement officer and our top cop.

I've been a prosecutor for over 17 years. I've prosecuted drug dealers and financial crimes and protected victims of sexual assault. And the attorney general is the tip of the spear when it comes to protecting law enforcement. In Arizona, we have a statute.

It's called qualified immunity. What it says is that if a law enforcement officer follows the rules, they can't be sued civilly for doing their job. Imagine a world when men and women get up every morning to leave their homes to protect our families, not knowing if they're coming home. Right now in Arizona, the question going through their mind when they're making those split second decisions for us.

Is this the decision that's going to end my career? We can't have that. We need to have someone who's a statewide elected official. Our top cop who says, I stand with law enforcement every time someone that law enforcement knows has their backs, because we need more men and women serving our communities.

We live in the city of Phoenix. We're under police. Do you go down to Tucson in Pima County? The county attorney there won't even prosecute people for attacking police officers.

And who's in charge of having that leadership? The attorney general. My grandfather was commander of the Oregon State Police. I've been on multiple federal and local police boards.

I'm currently on the Scottsdale Police Department board for the foundation, and I also lived in Minnesota, and I also lived in Portland, Oregon. And I think if you just used Minnesota and you used Portland, Oregon as two examples of what happens when you don't support your police department, when you don't have proper rules and regulations in place, and when they're handicapped from enforcing the law, it becomes unruly and dangerous for your average everyday citizens, and it immediately destroys the infrastructure of a beautiful city.

Arizona has become a magnet for so much new business, creating more employment opportunities than there ever have been here before. And there's more investment coming into this state. The tipping point, the balance for that to continue versus decline will start and stop, in my opinion, with supporting law enforcement, first responders and making sure they're safe in order to enforce the laws. You're 100% you're 100% correct.

President Trump has done a great job of securing the southern border, but we still have way too many illegal people in our state, and we can't tie the hands of our police officers and our sheriff deputies. They need to be able to do their jobs. Right now, we have an attorney general in Liberal, Kris Mayes, who doesn't think that law enforcement officers who pull someone over with probable cause should be able to ask them for their driver's license to ask them for their citizenship.

And so what does she do? She files lawsuits. She sends out press releases, and she asks liberals across the country to send her money. That's her campaign plan.

Meanwhile, I'm traveling the state with our Maricopa County sheriff. I'm visiting with law enforcement. I've been endorsed by over 30 law enforcement agencies, all the rural ones who have come together because they want to have an attorney general that puts protecting law enforcement ahead of criminals. I'll be an attorney general that fights for victims, not for the perpetrators.

And at the end of the day, that's critical. But in order to be that kind of attorney general, you have to have experience as a prosecutor. And in our Republican primary, it's very interesting. My Republican primary opponent, he's 50 years old.

He got his law license 25 months ago. He's never had a client. He's never prosecuted a case. He doesn't even carry errors and omission insurance.

And as you know, Brandon, if you're a business person that doesn't carry insurance, guess what? You're not doing business. And so at the end of the day, it's important to educate people on what the job is about. Because you're right, public safety and protecting law enforcement is number one.

But right after that, when it comes to economic development, it's about having a great education system in Arizona is the tip of the spear when it comes to school choice. We have education savings accounts. We have great charter school programs, we have great private schools. We even have great traditional public schools.

But in our current liberal attorney general, Kris Mayes, you're dealing with someone who wants to destroy school choice, who wants to take away a parent's right to choose where their kids go to school. She wants to eliminate education savings accounts. She wants to eliminate charter schools. She wants to eliminate private schools.

And she's spending our tax dollars right now, Brandon, to sue the Trump administration because she thinks that biological boys should be competing against girls. If we want business people to choose to raise their families in Arizona and bring their employees to Arizona, we have to have a great school choice program with the entire paradigm of choices. Because as you know, as a parent, one of the misnomers is that kids change their needs, change families needs change. You may have a child who starts off in a traditional public school that may need a different kind of service.

They may choose a charter school, they may choose a Montessori school. And next thing you know, the next child may have some learning challenges. They could be a family with a child that has autism. Next thing you know, they want to go to a private school, and they want to take advantage of the backpack funding, the education savings account programs that we have in Arizona and be able to make that choice.

But it's about parents having the choices, and that's why it's about having an attorney general that wants to protect our kids. In every speech I give, I always use the F word. Everywhere I go, my F word is family. I talk about where I met my wife, Sasha, my law school sweetheart.

We've been married over 17 years. I talk about my two teenage daughters who are 15 and 13. We need statewide leaders that emphasize the importance of family, because the number one indicator of academic performance is socioeconomics. The number two for socioeconomics is family unit.

And that's the kind of leadership that we need in our state. Well, it sounds like if you're a Republican, which I am, it sounds and if you're at all interested in preserving the right environment to raise your children, the freedoms that we have currently in the state of Arizona. The ability to build great businesses, provide great employment opportunities, and have a state that's run efficiently, effectively, and for the people. There really isn't another choice of somebody with the depth, the width, and the commitment of experience that you're bringing to the equation here.

And so my question is, why aren't more people lining up and saying, we have to get Rodney as our attorney general? Is it because they don't understand? Because until you told me how much power the Attorney General had, I personally did not understand the authority or the abilities of the Attorney General and the overall impact and influence, because to me, it sounds like a potential dictatorship environment where they could go after anybody for any reason, either support or not support initiatives, undermine or advance initiatives.

All those things. Did I say them correctly or true? We did. That's what we have now in Liberal.

Chris Mays, our current Democrat attorney general. We live in a Republican state. President Trump won by five percentage points, but we have a Democrat attorney general who has sued the administration 40 times since taking office. We have a Liberal Democrat attorney general in Chris Mays, who's suing property owners for wanting to charge decide how much they charge in rent.

She's suing farmers using the nuisance statute because she doesn't like farmers producing things from agriculture. She's going out. She's taking the 60 investigators that she has as the attorney general, gun carrying, badge carrying investigators and sending them to South Florida to harass an 84 year old former mayor, Rudy Giuliani, about the 2020 election. Instead of deploying those investigators to Sun City and Green Valley to protect our seniors, to protect our consumers from unlicensed contractors that are, you know, telling them they're going to go up on their roof to do repairs, but no one can ever confirm them because an 85 year old lady is not going to go up and get on the the roof of her home to see what kind of work is being done.

But you're right, Brandon, the attorney General is not only the most powerful and impactful elected office in the state, it's also the least understood office in the state. So my job as a candidate is to go out, meet with business people and educate them, provide them with a little bit of information. And not just business people. All Arizonans think about this.

The Department of Health Services in charge of all the hospitals. Guess how many attorneys? None. They're all assistant attorney generals.

If someone goes to the doctor, the licensing boards, no attorneys there. All assistant attorney generals who work for the elected attorney general was Tom Hatton. He owns Mountainside Fitness, and we were visiting and he said, Ronnie, it's important to educate everyone because remember Covid. Yeah.

Remember, we had a great Republican governor, a great Republican governor that shut down all the gyms, shut down all the churches, shut down all the restaurants. There was only one statewide elected official that would have had immediate standing to sue over that illegal executive order and remind everyone that business owners know when they should be open and when they should be closed, not the government. And guess which elected official that would have been the attorney general.

And so to have an attorney general who knows how to work for the people, who knows how to work as a lawyer is so critical. But yes, it's my job to go out and you'd be surprised. Maybe you wouldn't be surprised because you're a big supporter of mine. Most business people don't get involved politically By contributing.

Most Arizonans don't get involved politically by contributing, because who's going to invest in something unless they understand what it is? And so while Chris Mayes, the Democrat, goes out and the way she raises her money is she files lawsuits, she sends out press releases, and then nationally, she asks liberals across the country to send her money. I do the exact opposite. I go out into the community.

I educate people on the job of attorney general, and then I ask them to invest. I ask them to invest $1 for each of the 40 lawsuits that Chris Mayes has filed against the Trump administration, and that is how we get people involved. They go to my website at Rodney glassman.com.

We have a button. And every time Chris Mayes sues President Trump, my team updates the button. We just had to bump it up again because Chris Mayes, our Democrat attorney general's newest venture, is. She does not think that you should have to prove you're a US citizen in order to vote in our elections, believe it or not.

That is her latest lawsuit against the Trump administration. She doesn't think you should have to prove that you're a citizen in order to vote. She's using our tax dollars to sue the hefty garbage bag company. She's using our tax dollars to sue property owners.

And so a little bit of information, a little bit of education, and then a request to hit my button. Rodney glassman.com. $1 for each lawsuit.

Well, you know, Rodney, it seems to me like I have my personal opinions about boys competing against girls. I'm a father of three daughters, and there's already a divergence between a small girl and a bigger girl competing against each other. I can't imagine a boy of competing against one of my daughters. You know, I can't speak for every parent.

I just don't understand why a parent would even think that's okay. Right? But I get it. I get there's a lot of people that that have their perspective and opinions.

There aren't though. There aren't a lot of people. See, we have two races we're looking at here. We are looking at a Republican primary where I'm a lieutenant colonel in the Air Force, JAG Corps.

I've served for over 17 years. I'm a reservist, you know, prosecuted drug dealers in financial crimes. And now I run the active duty office at Luke when I go in to do my reserve duty and I'm a private attorney in the Republican primary, my opponent got his law license 25 months ago and has zero zero experience practicing law. Step number one, the ballots will be mailed and get to people's mailboxes June 24th, and then on July 21st will be our Republican primary election.

The average Arizonan does not believe that under any circumstances, you should shoot law enforcement officers. Kris Mayes, the Democrat. She does. The average Arizonan does not believe that a biological boy should be competing against girls.

Chris Mayes, our liberal attorney general. She does. President Trump won Arizona by over five percentage points. The average Arizonan does not want to see their tax dollars being used over and over and over again to sue the Trump administration.

Imagine an attorney general, Brandon, that instead of suing the administration for political points and to raise money from Democrats across the country, imagine an attorney general that went down to Yuma and helped the Yuma Medical Center get back the $20 million of Unreimbursed services that they provided during Joe Biden's surges, when he wanted illegals to keep coming across the border to fill our urban cores so that they could manipulate the census by getting more people into the democratic areas to make sure that they could get more congressional seats.

Which is why, obviously, they don't want proof of citizenship to vote. If you can just stuff people into the marketplace, ingratiate them with free phones, free gift cards, free housing, free health care and say, this is what it looks like, but vote for us. And you don't have to prove you're a resident. You don't have to prove you're a citizen.

You don't have to prove anything. Then, of course, those people would be like, why not? It's not just about the elections. It's about the body count.

Because as you know, every ten years the federal government does a census. And under previous administrations, under Joe Biden, under Barack Obama, previous administrations, they count every body. They don't ask you if you're here legally. So as attorney general, I will have the ability to work during the next census to advocate on behalf of the state of Arizona, to make sure that we only count legal citizens.

By doing that, we are going to have a more accurate reflection of our communities, and we're going to disincentivize those Democrats like the Biden administration, like Kamala Harris when she was running that one of that open door, open border policy. President Trump's done a great job of securing the border. But what happens at the border doesn't stop at the border. It's now here.

And that's why it goes back to me wanting to protect our law enforcement, protect our kids, and to protect Arizona's prosperity because low taxes, low regulation, fighting for consumers, fighting for business people. That's the job of the attorney general not suing President Trump once a week to raise money. If I'm an arizonian, right. And Arizonan.

Sorry, this is what happens when you're a Washingtonian. Fair enough. But I'm actually a Floridian, so I'm all over the place. Yeah, but in a nutshell, if you live here, you work here, or even if you're visiting here because we I have a lot of friends that this is their third or fifth home.

It would seem to me that you would want to have an attorney general that's entirely focused on what's happening here for the people who live here and not fishing all over the country, pursuing a personal agenda in order to raise your value to your Democrat friends, in order to raise money all over the country, because you're the one person that could be a pest or be a problem or be a pursuer of the federal government and the people that have been elected federally. I get if there's issues happening here to protect Arizonians, but I'm uncertain going after Rudy Giuliani with a vengeance.

How does that affect, if I'm here living in the state, working in the state? This is a beautiful place to be. How does that affect me here? Whatever happens or whatever I'm insinuating happened with Rudy Giuliani.

On day one. As Attorney General, I will withdraw Arizona from the 40 clickbait lawsuits that Kris Mayes has filed against the Trump administration. And I will rescind the political indictments that Kris Mayes has made against good Republicans simply for supporting President Trump. The reality is people across the country should be investing in our campaign.

If you care about protecting cops, if you care about protecting kids, if you care about supporting President Trump, securing the border, enforcing the rule of law, then the attorney general, for all the reasons that Kris Mayes has demonstrated is dangerous, is actually very important. If you live in Michigan, you can't invest in a Republican candidate for attorney general that has the same probability of winning as investing in our campaign for attorney general. Or if you're in Florida and you already have a great Republican attorney general, and if you live in California, you don't have a Republican attorney general candidate that you can write a check to, that's going to be championing the causes that you care about that can get elected.

So that is why we're actually raising money across the country, people from across the country, they click on our website, they may do the $40 with that button. They go up to as much as they'd like $5,500 per person. And the reason they're investing is because the attorney general does have the ability to reach across the country. The attorney general does have the ability, as Chris Mace has demonstrated, to do damage across the country.

And that's why we need to fire her in November. I'm so engulfed in business. I don't really understand all this. And so this is why I wanted you to come talk a little bit, because I consider myself fairly sharp when it comes to certain things, but you just don't know what you don't know.

And I think there's probably a lot of people listening to this or watching this that are Republicans that are like, I had no idea that I should even care about Arizona because I'm consumed with what I have going on at home. But here's what I'm hearing you say. I just want to make sure that it's correct. So if I'm living in Illinois or in Michigan, or I'm living in a place anywhere in this country where I already know I can't influence getting a Republican attorney general elected in my state, but I'm a committed Republican.

You would be one of the greatest assets for people all over the country who want to quit all these political lawsuits. In my mind, spending money fighting for a lot of this stuff is just wasted. There's a term for it. It's called lawfare, not warfare, lawfare.

And what happened? If you remember, in 2016, President Trump got elected in 2020. When the Democrats took over, they weaponized the Department of Justice at the federal level. They weaponized the Department of Justice because the president of the United States appoints the U.

S. attorney general. And that's what Joe Biden did. He weaponized the Department of Justice in 2022, when Democrats started taking over these attorney general seats at the state level.

Think of Letitia James in New York. She took over that office and immediately started going after President Trump, not fighting crime, fighting President Trump, the Democrat here in Arizona, Kris Mayes filing lawsuits indicting Republicans simply for supporting President Trump. The Democrats nationally have weaponized attorney generals offices. And that's why it's time for us as Republicans to take them back so they can focus on the core issues.

See, Brandon, you mentioned it. The average business person who's watching this has common sense, and that's what they know of politics. We elect a president and the president appoints the U.S.

attorney general. So why would it be any different at the state level? Because Arizona is one of the 46 states where we elect our attorney general. So in Arizona, the attorney general doesn't work for the governor or the legislature works for the people that put them in office.

That's different than federal. So then why is this such an important office? Because of the fact that it's the largest office in the state and provides all the legal services for every state agency, the 400 attorneys are the lawyers. If you're in real estate, are the lawyers, or if you're in contracting, are the lawyers.

If you have kids in the public school system because of the Department of Education are the lawyers. If you're a doctor or you're in health care or a consumer of any of those things as well. And so all of a sudden, the attorney general is the most impactful office in the state. And then once you find out about it and you understand that it's different than at the federal level, the question becomes, how can I have an impact?

And for most people, most people, even business people, they've never made a political contribution before we vote. We always vote in November. Some people, independents aren't aware in Arizona they can pull a ballot, either Republican or Democrat, for the primary. So getting people to vote in the primary requires them to understand what they're voting for, and then getting them to reach into their pocket and invest some of their hard earned dollars requires them to understand why.

So now all of a sudden, if you're a business person that's frustrated about crime, the Maricopa County sheriff is chairing my campaign. Why does he think this is so important? Because the attorney general is the one that can protect law enforcement. If you're a business person that cares about your kids and their schools, why is the Superintendent of public Instruction co-chairing my campaign?

Because the attorney general is the one that can protect those kids. If you're a business person that cares about low regulation, low taxes, then good conservatives across the state, like the mayor of Scottsdale and other conservative leaders across the state, like the county attorney of Yavapai County. I use that as an example because another prosecutor have endorsed my candidacy. And now all of a sudden you see, okay, this is why this is an important office, but I've never made a contribution before.

What's the appropriate amount? And I say, start with $1. For every lawsuit that the Democrat has filed against the Trump administration. It's an easy number.

And the best part about the number is it's always the best day to do it today. My commitment is going to be to protect our law enforcement, to protect our kids, and to protect Arizona's prosperity while working with President Trump to secure the southern border. And that's why this is the most important election coming up in 2026 for Arizona Attorney General. You know, it's it's been quite educational.

And I think that was really super informative to me because despite my business acumen, I did not understand. Maybe I watched too much of. What was that show? Uh.

Are you gonna say billions? Oh, yeah, it was. It was billions. Now, here's here's the great part about you thinking about billions.

Yeah, that was not an attorney general. That was a US attorney. We elect the president of the United States. The president of the United States appoints an attorney general.

President Trump went through four attorney generals during his first term. He just a few days ago, terminated Pam Bondi and appointed Todd Blanche as the interim attorney general. That federal attorney general gets over 50 US attorneys that run the district offices across the country. And those U.

S. attorneys have assistant U.S. attorneys that are all working on behalf of the attorney general, who is appointed by the president of the United States.

That office. And I love the fact that everyone. I bring up billions sometimes. It was a great show, but the reality is that's a different process.

This one you'll like even better because as a business person or a teacher or a police officer, you and you'll like this because it's just like in business, you, Brandon, get to hire slash elect the attorney that you want to view the law through the lens with which you've hired them to view it. Just like President Trump at the federal level gets to pick the attorney general that he wants to view the law through the lens with which he hired them to view it. You as a business person in Arizona, where we have an elected attorney general, get to hire the attorney that you want to view the law through the lens with which you've hired me to view it, just like your private sector attorneys.

The difference is this one's great because you make a small contribution. You vote for me in the Republican primary, you vote for me in the general election in November. You get me elected. I don't send you a bill and you have me on retainer for four years.

The state does. And I think that this is what's important for business owners to understand nationally, too. Because if you're a Republican and you're like, where should I put my attention? Who can I support that's pro-business and pro, you know, boys and girls not competing against each other and pro not letting illegal people come in and be taken care of better than people who live here.

Like you got to support somebody. You shouldn't just sit on the sidelines. So here's, here's what I'll do. I'm going to help you.

I'm going to push this podcast. I'm going to talk about this narrative. I have business owners coming through here all the time through this beautiful state of Arizona. I love Arizona, it's our second home.

Florida is our first home. Arizona is our second home. But we absolutely love it here. And so the idea that these things behind the scenes are going on and the average person doesn't know anything about it, and we can actually influence it.

And the way we influence it is first by supporting you. So you have the firepower, which is the money to get the message out, because it costs a lot of money to get the message out. And also from a bigger intentionality. The Democrat is raising money all over the country because people love the fact that they can get her to pursue the current president and go after other Republicans and create all this from a distance, this other noise, which means if you're a Republican in the country and you want that to stop, you have to send a message.

You have to stand behind something. You can't just sit back and watch it and get mad about it, or be disappointed about it, or to go talk over coffee with your friends about it. Like actually take action and do something. So we'll put your little donate tube button up and I'll talk about it more as well, because this has been very educational.

I appreciate you coming by explaining to me how all this works, the significance and importance of it. And just from a person who is raised by law enforcement and a person who supports law enforcement, all first responders, including our military. So thank you for supporting that as well. The fact is, everything I've heard from you and why people should get behind you versus even the Republican that's running against you is because you're an experienced law man.

You're an experienced litigator, you're an experienced lawyer who's been working like all the other people in this state, taking care of your family and being top tier at what you do, which is what's even put you in a position where you could try to run for this position. Right? And I would just encourage anybody watching this. I'm going to put a link up on how to support Rodney.

But if you're sitting at home and you're kind of frustrated anywhere in this country or anywhere in the world with the nonsense that's been going on and the and the distraction that's been going on, and you want to do something about it, just push the button and do something about it. You're going to feel better for at least taking action and you're going to support a great guy. I've gotten a chance to know Rodney now for the last year, and we're going to ramp up our support for him.

But if you're sitting at home and you're listening to this or you're driving your car and you're like, man, I want to make a stand for something, I literally I don't want my daughter competing against a boy in sports. I don't think that's right. I don't want people illegally being given phones and credit cards and free health care and all these things when you're paying for it. I mean, you don't get it for free.

You get the bill. If you're one of these people listening to this and you're like, I want an experienced attorney. I want an experienced someone who knows how to charge people for crimes and actually supports it. I want somebody who isn't okay, ever, with suggesting we should shoot at law enforcement or put them in jeopardy.

So if you're listening to this and these things are just kind of sinking in and you're like, shit, I'm not really supporting anybody right now, so why not at least have a voice in the fight here, and we'll make this the battleground and we'll make this the guy that we're supporting, because I'm going to feel better about doing something about it versus nothing. And I'm sure everybody that's listening to this, if you're a Republican, you're going to feel better about doing something too.

So I would recommend or suggest go all in. I think what is it, $5,500 is the most somebody can give you. It's $5,500 is the most. I also just remind myself that for most business people, they've never contributed.

Ever. President Trump won this country, that presidential race too big to rig as I as he called it. And I like to say, but the number of people that actually made a contribution for the first time was tremendous. We need that at the local level, too.

So if people that are watching your podcast just haven't heard a candidate talk about protecting cops or protecting kids or protecting prosperity, someone who's served in the uniform, someone who's talked about their daughters and where they met their wife, and just the kinds of things that you and I talked about that first time we had dinner together, just I'm a candidate that I'd love for them to make their first investment, their first political contribution, a Republican, a businessperson, a husband and a father.

I'm an Air Force officer. I'm a private sector attorney, and I will not let them down. So whether it's $40 $1 for each of the lawsuits, which could be 41 next week, or whether it's $5,500 per person going all in. The reality is, clicking that button and making that first contribution is so meaningful because, as you know, in business, it's the exact same way.

The easiest way to make a referral is to say, this is someone I do business with. That's right. That's right. And so look, get behind Rodney and I'm already behind you.

I've helped you raise some money. Yeah. And you and Natalie are all in. Including in Florida with people we know.

And we'll do some additional things there. But I'm truly excited and appreciate you and your commitment. This is not easy to do what you're doing. You could make a lot of money, stay private, complain like everybody else.

You sound like my wife. Exactly. Because it's a big commitment to put yourself out there. And a sacrifice.

But the reality is, and you know this if you eat more than three meals a day, you get fat. And if you want to wear a new suit every day. You need 31 in the month. And so at the end of the day, with two teenage daughters, with a wife living in the city of Phoenix going to the schools, we want to protect our law enforcement, our kids, and our prosperity.

And that's why as a family, we made the commitment to do this. And Rodney, you got my support. So thanks for showing up, explaining to everyone how all this works. It's fascinating.

Very important to this race is important nationally is what I heard. I didn't know that before. No, it is very important because at the end of the day, Arizona can be seen by the administration as a partner in doing great things and protecting our economy and protecting our law enforcement and making the United States stronger. Or Arizona can be seen like it is now as a fly in the ointment of progress.

Very important. So thank you for stopping by. We'll continue to get the word out. And man, I just really appreciate you.

Awesome. Thanks so much. You bet.