Bernard Marr's Future of Business & Technology Podcast · 2026-02-26 · 22 min
From Fluency To Thinking: Why Reasoning Models Are The Next Leap In AI For years, AI progress has been measured by how convincingly machines can talk. The next phase is defined by how well they can think. This conversation explores why that shift matters and what it means for science, industry, and high-stakes decision-making. #MBZUAIPartnership #Sponsored In this episode, I sit down with Jon Carvill, Vice President of Marketing and Communications at MBZUAI, to discuss the rise of reasoning models and why they represent a fundamental change in how we should judge AI capabilities.
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