Beats Working: Winning The Game of Work · 2026-04-20 · 59 min
What if the secret to stronger teams isn’t better strategy, but more grace? In this reflective conversation, Dan sits down with Andrea Asebedo, former nonprofit CEO, minister, and therapist, to explore what happens when leaders stop chasing perfection and start building “perfection-free zones.” Drawing from decades of community-building, teen leadership retreats, and organizational repair, Andrea shares how authenticity (not performance) creates depth, trust, and lasting connection. From a kickball “do-over” moment in a park to musicians restarting in the wrong key, this episode unpacks a radical idea: growth requires room to try again. When leaders normalize grace, communities don’t fracture; they strengthen. This isn’t about lowering standards. It’s about raising humanity. Takeaways: Community deepens when vulnerability replaces performance. Teenagers taught Andrea more about authenticity than any boardroom ever did. A “perfection-free zone” gives people permission to learn publicly. Grace builds trust faster than control ever will. When leaders model do-overs, organizations metabolize friction instead of hiding it.
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