TLDR · 2026-03-26 · 53 min
Everyone says cold email is "saturated." But what they really mean is: the usual way of doing cold email is dead. In this episode of TLDR, I spoke to Rey Fernando (CEO, eight25), who's generating 300+ enterprise meetings/year, ~$10-12M pipeline, and $3 - 7M closed revenue from outbound. But nothing about his system looks like what most teams do. Most outbound advice today centers on finding better signals, writing better templates, and scaling volume. Rey just flipped all of it. Here’s how, 1. Signals don't tell you WHO to reach. They tell you HOW to reach. Most teams use signals to reduce their list. Rey doesn't. He reaches out to everyone in the ICP consistently. Signals simply help in shaping the angle of the message. 2. The job of your email isn't what you think Not to explain your product. Not to build trust. Not even to drive conversion. Each part has one job: subject line gets the open, email gets the meeting, offer reduces friction. That's it. Don’t overthink this. 3. Good outbound ≠ clever hacks I kept asking for systems, automations, shortcuts.
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