The Wealth Transfer Podcast · 2026-07-28 · 51 min
Most people have heard of oil and gas royalties, but very few understand how mineral rights actually work. In this episode of The Wealth Transfer Podcast, Matt Templeton sits down with Tim Pawul, President of Minerals & Royalties Authority LLC and Partner at Tokenized Energy, to unpack the world of oil and gas minerals, royalties, non-operating interests, and energy investing. Tim explains why mineral rights are often described as “underground real estate,” how they can produce passive income, and why they have become increasingly institutionalized over the last decade. He also breaks down how investors may be able to use 1031 exchanges, DSTs, royalty trusts, and IDC funds to diversify into oil and gas-related assets. Whether you inherited mineral rights, are considering selling royalty interests, or are looking for tax-efficient ways to diversify beyond traditional real estate, this conversation offers a practical look inside one of the most specialized asset classes in wealth transfer. Book a Free Strategy Session with Real Estate Wealth Advisor, Matt Templeton:
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