The Talent Tango · 2025-11-12 · 21 min
This episode features Todd Hazen, Head of Technical Recruiting at Gusto , in a candid conversation about what it takes to move from non-tech recruiting into the world of technical hiring. Todd shares how he built credibility, developed deep connections, and learned to thrive in a space that demands both curiosity and humility. For talent professionals navigating transitions, this one is packed with lessons on leadership, learning, and trust. Key Takeaways • Curiosity beats confidence when entering a new domain. Ask questions, even when you're in a leadership role. • Building trust with stakeholders comes from honesty and follow-through, not from having every answer on the spot. • The "bar" for great talent is always shifting. Calibration is an ongoing process, not a one-time intake. • Vulnerability accelerates growth. Owning what you don't know helps open doors to learning and partnership. • Growth and comfort never coexist. Real development happens when you lean into discomfort. Timestamped Highlights 00:43 Todd explains how Gusto supports small businesses and why that mission matters.
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