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328. Leading Through Change with Huw Thomas

The Leadership Project Podcast · 2026-06-23 · 1h 5m

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Most change initiatives don’t fail because the plan is flawed. They fail because leaders confuse communication with conversation and then wonder why people feel anxious, resistant, or checked out. We sit down with returning guest Huw Thomas , author of Change Anything, to move beyond individual psychology and get practical about organizational change management that actually sticks. We dig into why “overcommunicate” often backfires, how one-way announcements create confusion, and what it looks like to replace broadcasting with dialogue. Resistance gets a full reframe: it’s frequently a rational response to perceived loss of certainty, control, competence, identity, or status. We also talk about the real-world consequences of poorly led change, including psychosocial risk, and what care and dignity look like in high-stakes moments like reorganizations and redundancies. From there, we get tactical about building agency. When people feel coerced, they push back even if they agree with the logic. When they’re invited to help shape the “how” within clear guardrails, they bring better ideas and real ownership.

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