
The ITSPmagazine Podcast · 2026-07-01 · 30 min
ON LOCATION | Sean Martin & Marco Ciappelli - Infosecurity Europe 2026 Two conferences, two moods: at RSA the drumbeat was resilience; at InfoSec, it's sovereignty. Sean and I close the week with Forrester analyst Madelein van der Hout - beaming in from the Netherlands - on why Europe makes a framework out of everything, what AI deployment is doing to the boardroom, and the security jobs that don't exist yet. Watch | Listen | ITSPmagazine.com There's a building across the Thames from the InfoSecurity press room - Millennium Mills, a derelict flour mill that looks precisely as haunted as it sounds. I kept glancing at it while Sean and I talked with Madelein van der Hout, who this year was a kind of friendly ghost herself: fully in the conversation, quick as ever, and across the North Sea in the Netherlands. She couldn't make it to London this year. FOMO, she told us, is real. Which turned out to be the point. Madelein is a senior analyst at Forrester - she reads this industry for a living - so the first thing we did was compare notes on what the week actually felt like. Sean kept hearing one word on the show floor: sovereignty.