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The ITPro Podcast

Hosted by ITPro

The ITPro Podcast is a weekly show for technology professionals and business leaders. Each week hosts Rory Bathgate and Jane McCallion are joined by an expert guest to take a deep dive into the most important issues for the IT community. New episodes premiere every Friday.

373 episodes · publishes weekly · latest 2026-07-03 · ~27 min/episode

Rank

#4787

Substance

50.0

/ 100

Breakdown

Scored 2026-07
Updated monthly

Engineering & DevTools rank

#255 of 289

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Across the index

#4787 of 6186

Substance

Top 77%

outscores 23% of the index

Why it scores where it does

The ITPro Podcast ranks #4787 on The B2B Podcast Index with a substance score of 50.0 out of 100, scored across 1 recent episode. It scores highest on specificity & evidence and insight density. Several concrete figures and named sources are cited (Gartner, McKinsey, Savills, Native Teams/Robert Waters) with real statistics, but all numbers are lifted wholesale from third-party reports with no original data, first-hand case studies, or deeper interrogation of methodology.

The five-dimension breakdown

Averaged across 1 recently scored episode, with cited evidence.

Insight Density

11.0 / 20

The episode is primarily a news summary with a few non-obvious observations - most notably the talent pipeline destruction argument - but is heavily padded with circular agreement, repetition of the 'skills shortages aren't new' point, and casual throat-clearing that dilutes the insight-per-minute rate.

“if you completely cut the legs out of under the entry level jobs by automating everything, you're going to end up with a problem because you end up with nobody”

“I don't think this is anything new. I think it's just wrapped with AI”

Originality

9.0 / 20

The takes are almost entirely conventional - skills shortage isn't new, AI needs power infrastructure, open source debates are messy - with only the 'no true Scotsman' framing for open source and the irony of AI creating demand rather than reducing it offering any conceptual freshness.

“Not to offend any guests of said podcast, but it does feel sometimes like a bit of a no true Scotsman argument when it comes to open source”

“the whole point of AI was that it was going to reduce the need for workers doing things. So how come it's actually increasing the problem”

Guest Caliber

7.0 / 20

The sole 'guest' is IT Pro's own news editor - a journalist summarising reports rather than an operator or practitioner who has built or deployed AI infrastructure at scale; there are no external industry experts present.

“joining us this episode, as ever, uh, at the end of the month, is IT Pro's news editor, Ross Kelly”

Specificity & Evidence

13.0 / 20

Several concrete figures and named sources are cited (Gartner, McKinsey, Savills, Native Teams/Robert Waters) with real statistics, but all numbers are lifted wholesale from third-party reports with no original data, first-hand case studies, or deeper interrogation of methodology.

“300,000 open roles, um, in terms of AI skills, um, but we have a supply of around 137,000 people in this domain”

“387% increase in AI roles between Q1 of 2023 and Q1 of 2026”

Conversational Craft

10.0 / 20

The conversation is collegial rather than rigorous - hosts mostly agree with each other and topics are dispatched quickly; there are occasional moments of critical probing (questioning Savills' commercial angle, flagging the AI-demand paradox) but no genuine pushback or deep follow-up on any claim.

“I am keen to know why Savills is in this, in this news story and what stake has it got in this news story”

“Also potentially the issue is that these are not entry level roles that we're talking about”

Standout episodes

  • Do we have enough talent and power for the future of AI?

    2026-06-26

    50

Rank over time

First period on the Index - history builds from here.

Episodes

1 scored on substance · 61 tracked in total.

  • Do we have enough talent and power for the future of AI?

    2026-06-26 · 22 min

    50 / 100

Frequently asked

What is The ITPro Podcast's substance score?
The ITPro Podcast scores 50.0 out of 100 for substance and ranks #4787 on The B2B Podcast Index. That puts it ahead of 23% of the B2B podcasts we rank and #255 of 289 in Engineering & DevTools. The score reflects insight density, originality, guest caliber, specificity and conversational craft across recent episodes - not downloads.
Is The ITPro Podcast worth listening to?
The ITPro Podcast is ranked on The B2B Podcast Index with a substance score of 50.0/100. See the five-dimension breakdown above to judge whether it fits what you're after.
Who hosts The ITPro Podcast?
The ITPro Podcast is hosted by ITPro.
How often does The ITPro Podcast publish?
The ITPro Podcast publishes weekly, has 373 episodes, released its most recent episode on 2026-07-03.
Which The ITPro Podcast episode should I start with?
Our highest-scoring recent episode is "Do we have enough talent and power for the future of AI?" (50/100) - a good place to start.

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Frequently discusses

Companies, products and tools that come up most across this show's episodes.

Google WorkspaceMicrosoft 365Gartnernative teamsSavillsNational GridMcKinseyEuroOfficeDocument FoundationLibreOfficeNextcloud

Guests who've appeared

Ross Kelly

Topics this show covers

The themes that come up most across this show's episodes.

Data center infrastructureMcKinseyAI talent shortageUK National GridEuroOfficeLibreOfficeOffice Open XMLOpen Document FormatSavills real estate reportEuropean Union sovereignty

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