
Hosted by Ohad Maislish
The IaC Podcast explores the world of DevOps and cloud computing through the lens of Infrastructure as Code (IaC). Hosted by industry experts and thought leaders, this podcast delves into the benefits, challenges, and best practices of using code to manage and automate infrastructure.
36 episodes · publishes fortnightly · latest 2025-04-01 · ~29 min/episode
Rank
#4110
Substance
55.0
/ 100
Breakdown
Scored 2026-07
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The IaC Podcast ranks #4110 on The B2B Podcast Index with a substance score of 55.0 out of 100, scored across 1 recent episode. It scores highest on guest caliber and insight density. Mark is a genuine Microsoft Azure engineer with hands-on Terraform and IaC practitioner experience dating to 2010, a published book, and a YouTube channel - credible domain knowledge - but he presents more as a community educator than an operator who has deployed IaC at enterprise scale with measurable outcomes.
Averaged across 1 recently scored episode, with cited evidence.
A few genuine practitioner observations surface (Azure Policy as a differentiator, predictability as the apex IaC characteristic, the argument against imperative/Turing-complete tooling), but these are brief and surrounded by substantial filler, tangents (George Costanza, flying trains), and generic multi-cloud commentary that adds no value to a practitioner.
“the apex characteristic you got to optimize in infrastructure as code is predictability”
“Azure Policy, which I often call as one of Azure's superpowers, which I don't see it exist anywhere on the other two hyperscalers”
The declarative-vs-imperative argument, multi-cloud inevitability, and AI-will-automate-code speculation are among the most recycled takes in the IaC and cloud space; nothing here is contrarian or first-principles, and the AI section in particular is entirely generic.
“I think we're in that stage right now where we have skilled laborers such as myself and presumably such as yourself who code. And we use AI as a tool”
“I hope some of the toil that we do manually today, such as like within the Terraform space, right, is to provide our development, right? I hope some of that toil maybe can be automated”
Mark is a genuine Microsoft Azure engineer with hands-on Terraform and IaC practitioner experience dating to 2010, a published book, and a YouTube channel - credible domain knowledge - but he presents more as a community educator than an operator who has deployed IaC at enterprise scale with measurable outcomes.
“I started working on Azure way back in the Red Dog days, 2010-ish”
“I work for Microsoft. I got to tell you that I'm not in sales, so I'm not going to sell you anything. But I'm a lowly, lowly engineer trying to make Azure better.”
Tool names (ARM, Bicep, OpenTofu, Pulumi, CDK) and Azure Policy are mentioned, but there are zero metrics, no named customer examples, no concrete timelines or cost figures, and the guest couldn't even recall the full title of his own book - the episode is almost entirely abstract.
“It's called Mastering Terraform, a practical guide to something, AWS, Azure, GCP, something.”
“Bicep and Arm are very tightly related. There was a design decision when the team first developed Bicep that it should compile down into Arm.”
Host questions are broad and leading ('what are the main reasons I should choose Azure?'), there is no meaningful pushback on any claim, and at several points the host answers his own questions or steers toward agreement, resulting in a largely unchallenged PR-adjacent conversation.
“So, you know, this is the IAC podcast. We strongly believe that instead of doing click ops, there is a better approach”
“Do you tend to agree? Absolutely.”
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