
The Future of Ground Transportation · 2026-02-25 · 33 min
In this episode of The Future of Ground Transportation, host Daniel Perez sits down with Sandra Phillips, CEO of Modo, North America's oldest and first car-sharing cooperative. Sandra provides a masterclass on the complex world of shared mobility, built on 29 years of real-world experience. We explore the two fundamental challenges holding back mass adoption: the technical hurdle of building EV charging infrastructure for shared fleets (not just private owners), and the deep-seated cultural and emotional attachment to personal car ownership, a concept she calls "motonormativity." Sandra also shares her expert perspective on where autonomous vehicles will truly make their mark first - and it might not be where you think. Here are some power takeaways from today's conversation: - The Car-Sharing Cooperative Model Explained.- The EV Infrastructure Problem for Fleets- Changing Human Behavior & "Motonormativity- The Future of Autonomous Vehicles- Building a True Mobility Ecosystem Episode Highlights:The Car-Sharing Cooperative Model Explained. Sandra breaks down how Modo operates as a member-owned organization with 35,000 members and a diverse fleet of 1,000 vehicles.