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#112: The Illusion of Self: Nondual Meditation & Brain Science - John Dunne, PhD

The FitMind Podcast · 2026-04-21 · 1h 26m

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The Illusion of Self: Nondual Meditation & Brain Science with John Dunne, PhD explores how our sense of identity is constructed moment by moment, drawing on Buddhist philosophy, neuroscience, and contemplative practice to explain why thoughts feel real and how seeing through them can fundamentally change our experience. In this episode of The FitMind Podcast, we sit down with John Dunne, PhD - a leading scholar-practitioner bridging ancient wisdom and modern science - to examine the nature of mind, self, and awareness. Rather than treating thoughts as accurate reflections of reality, John frames them as useful but often misleading constructions shaped by the brain's attempt to predict and navigate the world. We explore how meditation helps us "de-reify" thoughts - seeing them as mental events rather than truths - and why this shift may be central to reducing anxiety and depression. John also breaks down non-dual traditions like Mahamudra and Dzogchen, offering a clear lens into practices aimed not at changing experience, but at recognizing its underlying nature.

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