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The Deal Room

Hosted by Joanna Oakey, Aspect Legal

Welcome to Australia’s First and Only Mergers and Acquisitions podcast! Discover best practices from industry advisors and businesses that are involved in sale and acquisitions activity. Get educated about the the trends, challenges and issues that impact the business sale and acquisitions environment.

300 episodes · publishes fortnightly · latest 2026-07-02 · ~24 min/episode

Rank

#3142

Substance

61.0

/ 100

Breakdown

Scored 2026-07
Updated monthly

Finance rank

#379 of 548

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Across the index

#3142 of 6186

Substance

Top 51%

outscores 49% of the index

Why it scores where it does

The Deal Room ranks #3142 on The B2B Podcast Index with a substance score of 61.0 out of 100, scored across 1 recent episode. It scores highest on guest caliber and insight density. Brett Goodyear is a credible 30-year practitioner in valuations and forensic accounting - not a thought-leader type - but his actual transcript contribution is thin; the host dominates throughout and Brett's substantive moments amount to a handful of brief additions rather than a full expert session.

The five-dimension breakdown

Averaged across 1 recently scored episode, with cited evidence.

Insight Density

13.0 / 20

The episode contains a handful of genuinely useful structural points - NDIS/RTO registration non-transferability, buyer scrutiny amplifying late-stage restructure risk, and the silent-accountant failure pattern - but these are buried in substantial filler, webinar meta-commentary, and repeated general exhortations to 'be proactive.'

“it was held in a discretionary trust, which meant that essentially that became an extraordinarily complex process to be able to try to get those registrations out of that entity”

“The closer you leave it to sale, the harder it can be because you'll have a buyer's eyes on the process as well”

Originality

11.0 / 20

The core thesis - restructure early, don't wait until a buyer is in the room - is entirely conventional advisor wisdom, and no argument in the episode is genuinely contrarian or first-principles. The NDIS/RTO regulated-industry angle adds modest specificity but does not constitute a fresh framework.

“The number one complaint that we hear talked about in relation to accountants is that, you know, when we get complaints, it's about that their accountants aren't adding value, that their accountants aren't proactive”

“start early at least one to two years before exit”

Guest Caliber

14.0 / 20

Brett Goodyear is a credible 30-year practitioner in valuations and forensic accounting - not a thought-leader type - but his actual transcript contribution is thin; the host dominates throughout and Brett's substantive moments amount to a handful of brief additions rather than a full expert session.

“yesterday I was in meetings with regard to a merger. So two businesses, both in sort of, let's call it allied health. One was sort of a $10 million business. This is in value. And the other one, say, three and a half”

“as an ex-director in insolvency businesses, I saw regularly that having the correct structure in place early on was also an asset protection mechanism for the directors of trading enterprises as well”

Specificity & Evidence

13.0 / 20

Anonymised case studies (Peter, Ted, allied health merger) and one approximate deal-size reference provide some grounding, but no hard outcome data - tax dollar amounts saved or lost, deal price impacts, timeline specifics - is ever supplied, leaving the examples illustrative rather than evidential.

“One was sort of a $10 million business. This is in value. And the other one, say, three and a half”

“they have to be done before the business is turning over more than $2 million or is worth more than $6 million or whatever it might be”

Conversational Craft

10.0 / 20

This is a webinar recording repurposed as a podcast, and the format severely limits conversational quality: the host monologues for extended stretches, explicitly jokes about missing her own voice, and Brett is rarely asked anything beyond 'do you have anything to add?' No challenging follow-ups or productive disagreement occur anywhere in the transcript.

“I was nearly six or seven minutes without hearing my voice. It was very - I missed it too”

“Brett, thank you for pointing to those”

Standout episodes

  • [EP 310] Restructuring Before a Sale: What Most Businesses Get Wrong

    2026-07-02

    61

Rank over time

First period on the Index - history builds from here.

Episodes

1 scored on substance · 60 tracked in total.

  • [EP 310] Restructuring Before a Sale: What Most Businesses Get Wrong

    2026-07-02 · 38 min

    61 / 100

Frequently asked

What is The Deal Room's substance score?
The Deal Room scores 61.0 out of 100 for substance and ranks #3142 on The B2B Podcast Index. That puts it ahead of 49% of the B2B podcasts we rank and #379 of 548 in Finance. The score reflects insight density, originality, guest caliber, specificity and conversational craft across recent episodes - not downloads.
Is The Deal Room worth listening to?
The Deal Room is ranked on The B2B Podcast Index with a substance score of 61.0/100. See the five-dimension breakdown above to judge whether it fits what you're after.
Who hosts The Deal Room?
The Deal Room is hosted by Joanna Oakey, Aspect Legal.
How often does The Deal Room publish?
The Deal Room publishes fortnightly, has 300 episodes, released its most recent episode on 2026-07-02.
Which The Deal Room episode should I start with?
Our highest-scoring recent episode is "[EP 310] Restructuring Before a Sale: What Most Businesses Get Wrong" (61/100) - a good place to start.

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Guests who've appeared

Brett Goodyear (Business Valuations Online)

Topics this show covers

The themes that come up most across this show's episodes.

NDIS business registration and transfersRTOs (Registered Training Organizations)Discretionary trusts vs corporate structuresShare sales vs asset salesBusiness Valuations OnlineNovation vs assignment of contractsPPSR (Personal Property Securities Register) registrationsExit readiness planningTax optimization for exitsKey customer contract transferability

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