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What if the real question isn’t whether government is working hard - but whether it is actually improving people’s lives?

The Business of Government Hour · 2026-06-08 · 59 min

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How can leaders move their organizations toward sustained improvement? Why are results-driven reforms are so fragile - and what makes them endure? Join host Michael J. Keegan as he explores these questions and more with John M. Bernard, author of Government That Works: The Results Revolution in the States and founder of America’s Pulse. See Privacy Policy at and California Privacy Notice at

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