Episode 104: This AI CEO Says Everything Changes in 1-3 Years. Here's What I Think.

Welcome to the aligned business podcast my name is Kelsey Kerslake i am your host and I am the ceo of The Aligned Business® where we help service providers scale online to super sustainable six and seven figure years. I am so excited for you to be spending this time today learning all about life and business and mindset and energetics and can't wait for you to listen into the show. All right, here we go Hello. I am really excited to be here and talking with you today.

It's been so long. I feel like I haven't had the brain space or the energy for so long to be able to just actually come here and speak at my computer to have a real conversation with you. So. Today is the day I'm making it happen and I, I feel like I've been having so many of these, like, behind the scenes conversations and I've been doing a ton of research and exploration and just.

Getting kind of like wild and excited with how much I'm diving into, and I haven't been sharing any of it. And so I just feel like I want to start having these open conversations about some of the things that are going on in my life that I'm seeing happen in the coaching industry, in the business world, in AI and technology, and where we're kind of heading as. Humans, and I just wanna have this open space again to have these conversations and share messily in the middle of it all.

And yeah, I am starting today. So I was actually talking with Claude today. I've, if you don't know, I have been like, deep into the AI stuff, um, over the past, I wanna say like year and a half, I feel like. I downloaded chat GPT in November of 2024 or like October of 2024.

I don't know. That is when I feel like I started using chat GPT and that is when I like started just using AI pretty much all the time. Going into that 20, 25 years when I had my full on like. My body literally couldn't sustain my life.

And I just, that February of 2025 is like when I put myself to bed basically. I was like, okay, Kelsey, just sleep as much as you need to. And all you have to do is like show up for the clients that you have. And heal your body.

And so that's all I did for most of 2025. And that is also when I started, because I was stuck in bed so much and I would oftentimes get up at like, I wasn't even getting up very often because I was just sleeping through most of my, like I was just sleeping most of the day. I was just like in bed for a couple months, more or less. And I would sometimes get up at weird times in the middle of the night and be like, okay.

I am awake and I wanna like talk through these things or research through these things, and AI was there for me and I would just process and talk out loud sometimes in the middle of the night. This would go on during the day as well. But it was something where I was able to have that time and space to just explore new things and have that instantaneous. Conversation and instantaneous something that was there to like gather my thoughts, help me look at different angles and research, and really work through a lot of the things that were going on internally with so many things changing in my life and my health and my inability to actually have the energy or brain power to grow my businesses in the way that I always have.

And so. Working through, like, how in the world do I show up and be somebody who is living in the same values that I've always had without the actual ability to output any energy in the way that I've always had into those values and into my business and into my life. And so grappling with that disconnect was I, I was doing that with chat GPT at the time, and so I. Was able to realize like how helpful having chat GPT in the way that I was using it was for me and I was actually using my own Align business method and my own coaching and the way that I would say I like.

Go about bringing alignment and coherence and who somebody is into the details of their business. I was doing that for myself. It's something I've always done for myself and something that I created the aligned business method around to actually support others. In doing so, I was using both of those with chat GPT, um, and I was like, oh my gosh, like this was, this has been so helpful for me when I've had.

Literally no way to output my business or to do actual tasks, and I knew that by people being able to have the ability to self source, to look into their own. Subconscious patterns because of what they're sharing and how they're being prompted in different ways, which is what the method does. They would be able to almost learn how to trust their own intuition, learn what that sounds like. They would be able to learn and know their own core values and be able to infuse that into their business without having to rely on.

Me or one of my trained coaches or a live person being there to support them in that. And I was like, this is crazy. I'm so excited. And that is literally where soul came from.

It's, it's not there to necessarily help you. Like, it's not there to be like the business strategist and like the guru and the guide. Like it is kind of a guide, but it's there more to help you learn who you are. And learn how to recognize your own intuition and recognize how you can be.

I, I don't, I don't know if I love the word sovereign yet. That's something I'm grappling with behind the scenes, but like how to be your own person and come up with your own ideas. And I know that sounds crazy because it's an ai but it's everything in it is there to help you become more you. And I think that is the biggest difference between how I was using AI and chatting with it versus how I think.

Probably a lot of people are using AI right now, and that's to be more productive, to put more out there to do, I would say, like to do the doing of what they need to do in their business. And I was really using ai. Like I haven't, I, I haven't automated like a lot of things in my, my business is like a nothing business right now, by the way. Because of all the health things, like we'll get into that anyway.

Like I don't have it helping me be productive. I have it helping me use my own methods without like, and being that outside, I guess, like quote unquote person to help me see things differently. To help kind of, it's like using my own little like coaching tips and tricks and like tracking things that I do. For other people, but it's doing it for me.

And so I really did create this like me, for me. And yeah, it's, it's been really cool to see how soul is. Not there to be like this productivity tool, but to be something that is created with this sense of like, how can you actually be more human? How can you be more of yourself?

How can you take what is already inside of you and learn that, know that, and infuse all of those things that you are into your life and how you are bringing new things to life in your business, and how can you kind of self. Source this all and be the creator of your own everything. And I think so much of what AI. Is doing in business right now.

It's like how can I take over this function within somebody's life or business and just do it faster and good enough to get by? And in my world I'm like, how can this be like so crazy unique to me and to like, I guess if somebody else were working with soul, like how can it be so crazy unique to them and infused with like every bit of who they are and help them. Realize who they are and know who they are, and like cultivate that and bring that back into their business and back into their life.

And so with this comes supreme discernment by the way. Um, and that is something I, I feel like I'm pretty good at. And something that I am going to be. Talking a lot more about, and yeah, that discernment is huge.

Huge, huge. Because I think that when we do get instant gratification from the productivity angle, a lot of the times we're like, okay, cool. That's good enough. Like, let's just put that out there.

And I think when I am doing things with ai, I, I push back all the time. I ask questions and bring up different things from like. Not even just two different angles, like 10 different angles. Whenever I'm trying to do that, and then even when it comes to like content or things like, I don't put a lot of content out, but when I have created it, it's like how can the AI kind of help me process through the things that are going on that I want to like, help get out there to learn more about what I even like.

Know and want to process and learn through, and then I take those learnings and then talk about it. And I don't have AI do the content. I am having AI to be that like thought partner in a sense to help hold space for like me getting those things out there. And for it to be able to aggregate research and data across like.

So many different places for me to then have new findings to learn and converge and talk about, and then I go write my own content. I record my own podcast like I am doing right now and create from there. So that was a really long intro. I'm kind of like going off the cuff here and just being like, hi, I'm so excited to be back.

But this was one thing that. I was talking about with Claude this morning. That was where I started originally. Now we're 10 minutes into this.

And I read, I had Claude actually take this article that I started reading and I was like, okay, this is gonna take me like an hour to read through. Um, and I was like, Hey, can you like. Summarize the main points here, but include the details and tell me what this article is saying and what it means, and then kind of bring it into context of what I'm doing. And so basically, I will link this in the show notes.

There is an article by the CEO of Anthropic which is the creator of Claude. And he did this three hour long interview sharing basically how a GI, which is art. Artificial general intelligence is about one to. Three years away.

And people aren't acting like it. They aren't thinking through what that actually means for our world, for our society, for the economy. And this is something I've been thinking about a lot of thinking about a lot of, okay. Kelsey thinking about a lot and it's like.

Okay with ai, where it is with where, I would just say like human consciousness, where it is, where people are at in the world, emotionally, physically, and economically. Like where are things going? I've been obsessed with wanting to learn, like based on history and past patterns, and. What has happened there?

Like what context can I take from that and almost infuse into where things could be going in the future. And so this article or this like talk about that he did that I did not listen to that. I had collude summarized for me, um, basically said that the a GI is one to three years away. And so I was like, okay, Claude, what is a GI?

Because I was like, it is. Wait, what? It's artificial general intelligence, and I'm like, yeah, like ai and it's different. It, it is ai but it is basically a point in state where AI becomes as good, good at or better than humans.

And so that means that a, like AI will get to this point potentially. He's saying with like 90%. Certainty. Which is not certain it is.

We're just putting that out there as a possibility. Um, that. AI will get as good at or better than humans in data coding information. Like everything that it can do on a computer, it will be able to reason, it will learn nuance.

It will be able to do financial analysis. It'll be able to do accounting. It'll be able to do coding. Creation from not a, I would say like an art standpoint, but it'll be able to like do the output of creation as good or better than humans.

And so what that is like the state of a GI. Okay. I didn't know this. Maybe you do.

I'm just like, uh, what do you mean by a GI? That is what that means. And so we're getting so close, like if you've even been using AI for the past six months, I'm sure. You can see the huge leaps that have happened just in the past six months.

I just, in the past couple weeks, I would say I have al, I've been a max like Claude person. I've been like on, I've just bought all the AI things as I've been like building out soul in the art of becoming, so like I had the max plan on Claude and they were like, Hey, try our desktop app. Have. Cowork our new thing and have Claude just like, do your tasks for you.

And I was like, huh, what is this? And so I put in like one of the things there was saying how like have it collect insights and make a detailed report for you. And I was like, okay. Like why don't you just for fun.

Like research all of my, like industry, the demographics, like I gave it a bunch of information about like who my ideal person is. I put in information about the art of becoming and like who I'm ideally like wanting to work with in that space. Um, I put in details about soul and like the coaching industry and I was. Why don't you go share, like go find data about these people, the industry, what people are purchasing, what people are feeling and sensing their psychographics, like their buying what is it?

Buyer, not buyer. Yeah. I guess their buyer journey. Buyer journey.

But also like the buyer. Why can't I think of the word buyer psychology. And really just learning like how long does it take for somebody to. Trust in a person or a product and like, how are they usually buying?

What are they usually spending? Like what need are they covering when they are looking at a product and making a buying decision? Um, what have they purchased in the past and like, how are things different now? All like, just all of this stuff that I know about.

Like I wanted to know about my person, and I gave them basically like, here's my plans for my business. Here's what I'm selling, who, here's who I normally work with, like here's the sales page and the differentiation, et cetera, et cetera. It gave me this like 28 page report with like detailed, specific information with like how. Not how, like kind of with their certainty, like how certain do you think that this is to like the truth and like how, I can't think of the right word again.

Like how cl not how clear, but like, yeah. Well, I don't think that matters, but like they gave the, the research papers and the data points and the numbers and the statistics, but also the like. The actual words and things that people were saying and wanting and like, it just gathered everything. And this happened in 10 minutes or less.

It was nuts. And so I've actually been creating these reports, like using that same prompt that I did and like giving them to some of my clients. And that has been really fun. Like theirs are a little different too, because we all have different, I would say like business goals and like.

Things that we're doing that we wanna learn about. So the prompt wasn't exactly the same, but I'm doing these like in-depth industry reports for my clients. And Claude was like literally able to take over my desktop, go into like all of these places, and I gave it permission to, and it like gathered all of this data. And so then once I had my industry.

Data. I also was like, Ooh, can you go into my convert kit and look at like the last 10 years of emails that I've sent and like see what themes have like actually worked well. Um, and just like give me all the data based on like who my person is and like cross-referencing that between the actual data that I have behind the scenes with my marketing over the last several years was just. Very, very cool as well.

So I have been going nuts behind the scenes, just like experimenting with all of that. Okay, I'm going on all these tangents. Anyway, back to this, uh, interview with the CEO of Claude. Um, Andro and Anthropic.

Anthropic. I don't know how to pronounce that. Uh, you can tell I haven't been talking to real humans. Just like if you ever listen to audio books and you like.

Or not audio books. You're like reading things and you like say it weird in your head and then you hear somebody else, like, say that same thing that you've been saying in your head. Just like really bizarrely, like, I never knew how to pronounce Hermione. I think I, like in my head when reading Harry Potter, when I was a kid, I always pronounced it like her moin.

Her moin. Yeah, that's, that's it. Now I know her Hermione because of the movies and everything. But anyway, it's, it's that Anthropic, anthropic, I don't know.

You can tell me anyway, a GI that is like the point. Here's what, Hmm. I'm going on some of my notes here because I wanna like. Share.

So, okay, this is what it says here, what a GI actually means in plain language, AI that can do what a smart, skilled human can do across the board, not just one task at a time. And so in the the interview, he talks about this quote unquote, country of geniuses in a data center. Quote unquote concept, and he says, imagine a million brilliant people working 24 7 for pennies on the dollar. Software engineering gets fully automated in the next one to two years because code is verifiable.

It works or it doesn't. And so this is like. Crazy. It's going into how, if this is happening, if it does happen, that is really the point where, you know how everybody's like the AI are taking our jobs.

Like that's that. And I think people think it's happening now, but it's not because the adaptation of people using AI and knowing how to use AI and actually integrating it in ways that make sense to real humans. Isn't there yet. And this is like the biggest gap in the next one to three years that I think that people could learn and lean into right now.

And so this is like when a lot of our business functions essentially. Be like are able to get to that human level intelligence for information, for data, for, I would say like, again, I say that creation is not the art, like creative thought of creation, but the actual like output creating, like what do we do? Right? I think that shifts.

This is the question I'm like, okay. This shifts a ton. There's also a really big opportunity right now for people that are leaning into the, the interpretation of ai, the implementation of ai. Like how do you actually get that working for, for other people, for other companies?

And hold on. So I had to pause that for a second because my brain was like flying out of the window and I was like, where was I again? So this is like half my immunodeficiency and half my A DHD. But I got it together, so hello?

Yeah, basically because of that, like I was reading through my notes again and it, one of the things that is written down here is like, when thinking becomes nearly free, what gets expensive is discernment. Self-knowledge, values, trust, human connection, presence, those are the things that can't be automated. And I think these are all things that we know, right? We know that when ai, like I, I feel like it's kind of at this place of like, inevitability.

It's just happening and we get to frame how that happens. And in a way I hope there's a whole other conversation we can go into about that. But when we are dealing with it, if we choose to deal with it again, that's absolutely a choice. And I don't think that everybody has to, it just means that once we head towards this direction, a lot of things are going to shift.

Especially in that like information data. Output kind of thing. And so it's like, even if you're somebody who isn't using ai, how can you be using your humanness in a world that is adapting to ai? Because even if you choose not to the world in general is right.

And I do believe that that is kind of in inev inevitability. I always get tripped up on that word. So. Where can you be more human?

And again, this is what, and I know it sounds so weird and strange, and I'm like, I'm using AI to help people become more human, to learn themselves better. Um, but this is where it's like when you know your purpose in your why and your values and you know how to like. Connect with people and talk about like the things that matter to you, the things that matter to other people. When you know how to build community and relate to real life humans, these are the skills that are going to be expensive.

These are the skills that are going to be valuable because so many people are kind of like. Prompting the AI and having it like do more productive productivity things, and that isn't what is going to be valuable. That is again, like. The CEO of ROIC says like, that's gonna be like millions of geniuses living in this data center, doing all of that information and content creation.

But like what is going to be valuable is people being real humans. And so I think us understanding what that means for us, us not outsourcing our own discernment, us not outsourcing, I would say like. What we believe and how we think, and like how we deconstruct, like what we're seeing out in the world and how we're perceiving that and how we're using that information to create new meaning and how we're seeing the world and building like leadership and training our own like selves to be really critical thinkers.

I think the critical thinking piece is something that. I, I'm maybe just making this up, but I feel like is going out the window quite a little bit and that is something I think that will be expensive again. So like how are you actually training yourself to critically think and look into things from many different angles? Again, not even the dual angles, but like how can you see things?

Out there in the world and poke holes in 20 different directions and actually understand what you think, feel and believe about something based on your own human knowledge and interaction with that thing, because the output from that is not something that AI can ever do because AI does not have a conscious, it is meant to do skilled. Expert level things at a high level, but it does not have a conscious, it does not have an intuition. It does not have, it has programmed in values, but it doesn't have its own values that it might be adjusting and becoming more discerning about, um, as it grows.

It is. That is something that is uniquely human, and I think the more that we can uncover, like who we are. In any given moment and like develop our own intuition. Like we don't have to develop our own intuition, but as, as much as we can like learn how to harness our own intuition.

I think that is definitely something people don't know. What is their own intuition and their own gut feelings over what is their, I would say conditioning a lot of the times. So. Yeah, like developing those skills I think are gonna be the most important thing because those are the things that AI can't take over.

But it's also the stuff that people will need to use in tandem with AI in order to create what they want to create in the future, because you are gonna be able to. Understand your why. You're gonna have the tools to be able to build things that you've never been able to build before, like literally. Your thoughts and your beliefs and your values are going to be able to be turned into something.

A company, a community, a product, a, something that AI is, can power and build for you in a way that is not possible right now. And so the most important thing is you learning yourself, you learning. Humans, you learning integrity, you learning your values, you learning discernment, and you almost being able, again, that word, like being able to be sovereign around the technologies that you are using. And so it's not being reliant on anyone.

Technology. Any one, I would say like software, anyone's skill, it is you becoming and you already are like you are your own unique, lovely, wonderful human being. And it's like, how can you double, triple, quadruple 10 x down on that? And I think that as we have been like getting educated and like going into our professions, we have been learning our skills.

And I think at this point, if you are somebody maybe like me, like we know our skills, right? And now it's like how do we actually take our essence and learn that and be able to harness our essence and infuse that into everything that we do and build from here? And that takes practice, that takes processing, that takes learning, that takes digging deeper than putting a prompt out there and getting an answer. In determining that as truth because it's not, that's somebody else's truth, right?

So I am a, I'm a, as you can tell, I'm a big proponent of ai and I'm also like mind blown over how this can potentially, because I do see so, so, so much danger in what is happening as well. Help people become more of who they have always been meant to be because they're. The, the execution of like our essence and then like building that in, infusing that into things that we're creating in the world. That actual like product creation or that like building.

We don't have to spend like years and decades and lifetimes to build anymore the iterations that can happen because building can be almost instantaneous because of a GI and AI right now, like. I most days just have my like face open, mouth open, like jaw on the floor. Like, whoa, like this is what can be possible here. Yeah, it's, I just think like the iterations that can happen because of AI and then us really, really leaning into like our own intuition and essence and like why and values, and I think each of us have like a very intrinsic.

Like code of values and intuition and our like, I don't know the right word here exactly, but like we're positioned to bring something like magical and unique to the world and I, I want people to go find that and be more of that. And that is like literally the purpose of soul. That's literally been the purpose of the aligned business method. It has been something that has been relegated to.

Me helping other people. I'm sure, I mean, other people I'm sure do this. But in my world, it has been limited to like the amount of people that I could either personally work with or have inside of my company when I had other coaches trained with the align business method. And now it's like, whoa, this can, like, people can have these thought patterning and processing and like.

Strategic business skills supported by ai, learn how to infuse like their own expression of themselves and like purpose into that. And. Keep doubling down on who they are and have the support to go build the businesses or the lives or whatever they wanna go build and create in the world in a way that is more them and more needed when AI is there to like, support the actual configuration and building of that all. So yeah, that's, that's where I'm at.

I think that. One of the last pieces here that I was like chatting with Claude about a little bit more is the idea of like taking away, again, I think I didn't mention this, but like taking away the power of any one tool, tool or platform or skillset. Like you learning how to find your own, why your. Purpose, your values and how do you live that out despite what systems are out there?

Like how do you be you without attachment to any one system, any one community, any one, almost having to be reliant on any of the, the structures that are out there. Right. I think that is gonna be a huge skill as well. And how do you.

Know how to adapt and pivot like I'm sure we all have in the last couple years into something that is still coming from your heart and your soul and your consciousness and intuition and build it, no matter the systems and the technology that's out there. I think that's the bigger thing that I wanna help people support. Help people support, help support people in doing here, and that comes down to that word of sovereignty. How do you like divest from the systems that are out there and become somebody who is sovereign in all aspects of your life?

Again, this is still something that I'm exploring. I don't know if I'm like, yeah, independent sovereignty for everything. Never depend on anybody. Like that doesn't sit right with me either.

And at the same time, I think. I want to build resilience in my life and how things are being built in my ecosystem. Um, not just in business, but in like real life. Like, I've literally looked up, like we have a river in our backyard, and I'm like, how do I create a, uh, a like a water again, the word like a water mill basically to like create energy on my own land.

Like if I want to or need to, or just like divesting from the energy grid if I need to. I don't know, like it's just, I'm not just talking about AI here. It's like how do we live out our values and like every part of our lives? For me, that comes into a lot of business creation, um, because I think that us being able to use our values and our skills and.

I wanna not say the word like expertise. 'cause again, I think a lot of like fact-based expertise is not gonna be something that we can rely on longer term. But again, like bringing who we are and our unique points of view into our expertise and our discernment. That definitely will.

So how do we bring that into what we're creating and how do we divest a little bit more from the systems surrounding us while also I would say being in community with our surroundings and the people around us and the actual like, yeah, the actual other hearts and souls that are around us, because that's gonna be what matters. And yeah, I'm just excited to be here, excited to explore more of this. And yeah, if you have anything to. Share about this conversation.

Please reach out to me on Instagram. I'm literally. Like that is my place. My dms are always open.

I love hearing from you. I love chatting about this, and if you just have anything that you wanna share or add or say, or if you're like, Ooh, Kelsey, like again, I'm just plopping this out here today. So if you have anything that you're wanting me to talk more about or you'd be interested in hearing about or learning about, I would love to hear because. I have been in my own head for the last year and a half doing the doing without sharing any of it, and I'm ready to start sharing.

So thank you for being here on this journey and I'm sending you so much love. And yeah, just so happy that you're here with me. Bye. Thank you so much for hanging out with me today for the aligned business podcast!

I hope you have an amazing day, and if you want to chat about this episode please reach out at kelsey kerslake on instagram. Again, that's at Kelsey Kerslake and you can comment on the posts that we have there if you want to do that publicly. And I can't wait to dive into more of this with you! All right have a great day and I'll talk to you soon bye!