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Formal Verification, AI Hallucinations, and Mathematical Truth | Tudor Achim, Co-Founder, Harmonic

The AI Why with Liam Lawson · 2026-07-23 · 1h 9m

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In this episode, Tudor Achim, Co-Founder and CEO of Harmonic, the AI lab behind Aristotle, a mathematical reasoning system that won gold at the International Math Olympiad, makes the case that AI hallucinations aren't the problem with today's models. The real problem is that nobody can verify whether a hallucination is right or wrong. Tudor explains why his team bakes formal, computer-checkable verification (using a language called Lean) directly into how Aristotle reasons, so instead of trusting an AI's word, you can mathematically prove it's correct. Liam and Tudor go deep on what "truth" actually means in mathematics versus the real world, why Andrew Wiles's famous proof of Fermat's Last Theorem had a two-year hidden flaw, and why Tudor believes math is in the middle of its first fundamental shift in 4,000 years, moving from proofs written in English to proofs written in verifiable code. They also get into a spirited debate about the U.S. education system, what Harmonic actually looks for when hiring (hint: it's not the résumé), and why Tudor thinks AI will never be trusted to grade its own homework.

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