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238: So Long, and Thanks for All the Fish

Test & Code · 2025-08-15 · 2 min

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Key moments - from our scoring

Substance score

8 / 100

Five dimensions, 20 points each

Insight Density1 / 20
Originality1 / 20
Guest Caliber2 / 20
Specificity & Evidence3 / 20
Conversational Craft1 / 20

After a decade-long run, Brian Okken concludes the Test & Code podcast with this final episode. Launched in August 2015, the show has delivered 237 episodes covering Python testing practices and tools. Okken reflects on the journey and shares his reasoning for stepping back: a desire to spend more quality time with family, pursue creative interests like writing, drawing, gardening, and cooking, and focus on deeper, more intentional work. He emphasizes this isn't a complete departure from the Python community - he'll continue as a lead engineer at Roden Schwartz, maintain active involvement with the Python testing community, contribute to PythonBytes.fm, and develop courses and resources at pythontest.com. For listeners seeking to stay connected, Okken directs them to pythontest.com for newsletter signup, contact information, and course offerings.

Key takeaways

  • →After 237 episodes over 10 years, Brian Okken is ending the Test & Code podcast to prioritize family time and personal pursuits like writing, drawing, gardening, and cooking.
  • →Okken will continue working as a lead engineer at Roden Schwartz and maintain Python community involvement through PythonBytes.fm, pythontest.com courses, and the Python testing community.
  • →Listeners can stay connected through the newsletter, contact form, and course offerings at pythontest.com.

Topics in this episode

Test & Code podcastPython testingPytestPythonBytes.fmpythontest.comRoden SchwartzPython testing community

Questions this episode answers

Is Brian Okken ending the Test & Code podcast?

Yes, after 10 years and 237 episodes starting in August 2015, Okken is concluding the podcast to focus on family, personal interests like writing and gardening, and other professional projects.

Will Brian Okken stop working in Python and testing?

No, he'll continue as a lead engineer at Roden Schwartz, stay active in the Python testing community, and contribute to PythonBytes.fm and pythontest.com courses and resources.

How can listeners stay in touch with Brian Okken?

Listeners can visit pythontest.com to sign up for his newsletter, access contact information, or find his book, courses, and the Python testing community.

What our scoring noted

Our reviewer’s read on each dimension, with quotes from the episode.

Insight Density

1 / 20

This is a two-minute farewell and promotional monologue with zero technical or operational insights. Every sentence is either a goodbye or a plug for pythontest.com resources.

I'd really appreciate it, especially if you could sign up for the newsletter. I'm trying to collect emails of people that might be interested in similar topics.

Originality

1 / 20

There is no original thinking whatsoever - this is a genre-standard podcast retirement announcement with nothing that challenges or reframes any idea.

I think that a good run I think I close this chapter though I like to take more time with my family and more time thinking and writing and drawing and gardening and cooking and just living.

Guest Caliber

2 / 20

There is no guest; the host is the sole speaker and delivers only a farewell message, offering no practitioner depth or domain expertise in this episode.

Of course, I'll still be working as a lead engineer at Roden Schwartz.

Specificity & Evidence

3 / 20

The only concrete details present are basic metadata - episode count and a start date - with no examples, data, or technical evidence of any kind.

episode two, which was released August 20th of 2015
spent 10 years 237 episodes

Conversational Craft

1 / 20

There is no conversation, no guest, no questions, and no follow-up - it is a solo promotional monologue that reads as a scripted outro repeated twice.

head over to pythontest.com slash contact to reach out to me or slash newsletter so that I can reach you or slash support if you'd like to, you know, get a course or something.

Conversation analysis

Computed from the transcript - who did the talking, and the words that came up most.

Most-used words

pythontest4test3code3newsletter3course3slash3podcast2links2contact2hold2support2book2pytest2courses2community2august2

Episode notes

A farewell to a fun 10 years. Also, I should have tested it better. :) In the audio I got the numbers wrong. Doh! This is episode 238, not 237. Oh well. I'll still be around, of course, at: pythontest.com - where I write about developing software with tests pythonbytes.fm - Python news and headlines, delivered directly to your earbuds Thanks for all the fun over the last 10 years. I wish you the best.

Full transcript

2 min

Transcribed and scored by The B2B Podcast Index.

Welcome to Test and Code. If you've found value in this podcast, could you do me a favor? Could you go over to pythontest.com and look either in the top menu bar or in the bottom footer?

And there's a few links we're going to talk about. Contact is how you can get a hold of me. Newsletter is how I can get a hold of you. and support is how you can find links to things like my book, the PyTest book, PyTest courses, the community where you can ask questions.

And that's about it, really. I'd really appreciate it, especially if you could sign up for the newsletter. I'm trying to collect emails of people that might be interested in similar topics. It's now August of 2025.

I started this podcast about 10 years ago. I'm looking at episode two, which was released August 20th of 2015 I can believe that So where are we at We at 236 episodes so far I guess this will be 237 if we want to count it Anyway spent 10 years 237 episodes I think that a good run I think I close this chapter though I like to take more time with my family and more time thinking and writing and drawing and gardening and cooking and just living. Of course, I'll still be working as a lead engineer at Roden Schwartz.

love my job and I'll be podcasting at pythonbytes.fm and writing and building courses at pythontest.com and I'll also be hanging out with the python test community which you can find out more at pythontest.com of course but still testing code was fun I hope you've enjoyed it as much as I have thank you for listening to testing code let's keep in touch head over to pythontest.

com slash contact to reach out to me or slash newsletter so that I can reach you or slash support if you'd like to, you know, get a course or something. That's all for now. Now go out and test something.

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