October 30, 2026 - Public Speaking for Females Dr. Aleksandra Plazinic and BioElectric Therapy Dan O. Lopez

Speaker A: From the AM24.7 radio network, broadcasting from AM and FM M stations around the country. Welcome to the Small Business Administration award winning School for Startups Radio where we talk all things small business and entrepreneurship. Now here is your host, the guy that believes anyone can be a successful entrepreneur because entrepreneurship is not about creativity, risk or passion. Jim Beach.

Speaker B: Hello everyone. Uh, welcome to another exciting edition of of School for Startups Radio. I hope you're having a great day out there. Running a business, growing a business, starting a business, taking control of your own destiny. I have two amazing guests today. First up, we're going to learn to have or be better speakers, particularly if we are women. And then second, we're going to have one of the most challenging interviews I have ever had. Challenging in a sense that it makes my head go. It challenges what I believe challenges. I makes me think I should get on an airplane and go and try this, this therapy. It's a bioelectric therapy. You know, we look at our chemistry in our body all the time. They tell us all of the numbers, but we never look at the electric systems in our body. And maybe that's the problem. He has Our, our second guest, Dan Lopez has some amazing stories. And so it's just a real mind f. Anyway, let's go ahead and get started and learn to be better speakers. Before that, let's get started with a great show. You know, speaking in public is one of the hardest things for people to do and I guess it's hard for women too. I don't know, I'm a man. But we will find out. I'm excited to welcome to the show Dr. Alexandra Plasnic. She is an expert on keynote speaking and communications. She is a, uh, communications trainer and coach and author of a new book, From Fear to Fearless Female Speaker. Overcome Fear of Public Speaking and lead with impact. A proven path to confidence, clarity and executive presence for women leaders. Dr. Plasnich, welcome to the show. How are you doing today?

Speaker C: Thank you so much for having me. I'm doing great. Thank you.

Speaker B: So who is more afraid of speaking, men or women?

Speaker C: Well, usually it's women, at least women that I work with. And um, the reason for that is, um, coming from a little bit of the social expectations of what is expected for women and what kind of feedback we get from the early age to all the professional, uh, careers. And um, women are actually more, um, prone as well, um, to get the negative feedback and the criticism both from men and women. And um, this is all that is actually bringing this fear of public Speaking So not just in front of many people, but as well, speaking up in meetings, speaking in front of your boss, or, um, having something to share for your team.

Speaker B: So you made two. Two points there. The first point I kind of wanted to. Are you saying that women get judged by their appearance and their speaking ability, and that their appearance means that they have to be pretty? I'm trying to kind of take your words and put them into my thoughts. Is that what you said?

Speaker C: That too. But the most criticism as well comes to, um, women's intelligence and who they are. So men, they get, um, more feedback. I'm not saying they're not criticized, but they get more feedback on what they were trying to do or on the activities. And women, they get more negative feedback on who they are, and that's why it gets you even more. And it's harder to change that.

Speaker B: Who they are, does that mean their career and their resume, or are they successful at also raising kids? What does it mean, who they are?

Speaker C: Meaning if somebody gives you a negative, um, feedback on your intelligence or your credibility or your expertise, so it sounds more as, um, as a constant. Right. So that, um, you embedded this part of your identity. And, um, it is different if I. If I share feedback and say, okay, this is something that you can change in your doings. You were trying, so this didn't work. But maybe if you do this. But if I'm criticizing your identity, professional or personal, um, then it's, um, it's not that easy to change. And there is not this, uh, path or I'm not giving you direction where to go. Right.

Speaker B: Yes, that makes sense. Yes. All right, so how does this fear express itself differently for men and women? What do men do? For example, I sweat my forehead. That's where I'm sweaty. It's not my armpit, it's my forehead. And so it's really visible, you know, I can't put a jacket on my forehead, you know, and that's what I do when I get nervous. Um, and I've learned how to deal with it, you know, I've learned some tricks, you know. And so, uh, what are some of the ways that this expresses itself in women?

Speaker C: You said it very well. It expresses differently for every person. But usually we have the, uh, body sensations. So the emotions are not. Not easy to be suppressed. So even if you try to do that, it leaks out. So it leaks our body, as you said, sweating. That's why people feel their, uh, heart is rating. Or sometimes it leaks into their voice. Right? They lose the voice or they feel it's trembling. So we cannot really suppress our nervousness. We have to learn to deal with it. So I'm not saying that we should, um, totally eliminate that, because nervousness as well can have some positive traits, but, um, the trick is really, uh, to learn how to manage it.

Speaker B: Yes, very much so. So how do you manage fear? What are your suggestions for managing fear?

Speaker C: So first we will see what is the level of the fear. So if I tell you, um, from 0 till 10, if you can evaluate how high is your fear. So for some people it can be 2, 3. For some it can be 6. For some it is 8 or 9 or even 10. So, um, there is a, um, saying coming from the research that, um, some people would rather die than speak in public. So that means m. Their fear is very

Speaker B: high. I've heard that. That's so good.

Speaker C: Yes. And then actually, um, what would happen if they would, uh, publicly speak or show up with that higher fear? We could, um, actually see a lot of these physical sensations and they wouldn't feel physically or mentally good. So what we heard before, right. Just do it. Or you would push somebody and say, okay, you got this. Doesn't matter how, you know, if you're. If you're fearing it will work out, sometimes it does not. Right. If the fear is very high. But, uh, if your fear is around, let's say, six, that means that's a good amount. And, uh, because, uh, I want us to feel the emotion, right. With the public speaking, it's always an important event, and you want to communicate, um, to be able to influence people. You want to be motivated, you want to feel inspired. Right? And this is where their nerves are helping us, so they lift us up a little bit. Uh, and I like that even better than when somebody says, I have zero fear. I can just, whatever, talk right now. Uh, because that means maybe sometimes you don't really care. Or if your nervousness is zero, uh, that means you're not really motivated and you can, uh, you can really project a little bit of the flat message. So especially if your audience is already flat, so you're not really lifting them up.

Speaker B: All right, and then. Okay, and what if your fear is a, uh, six? What are you going to do? Are, uh, there any exercises that you can do or anything to help get it back down a little bit?

Speaker C: Of course, yes. So what I share in the book and the method that I use, um, that I call the fearless method, and it's the method that has different elements to it, so that we use Our body, mind, emotions. And then we feed into the words actually and um, structure our content. So when we start from our body, actually it's easier to convince our mind that um, everything is okay and that we can keep going. And I think with the body, it's uh, the simplest. Right? Um, what I suggest is to keep your both feet on the ground so that you feel grounded. You can straight up, uh, your spine, look a little bit up. So what we learned is roll, uh, your shoulders and really sit up straight or stand up straight and already feel, uh, how, um, that is different. So how do you feel differently? How do you differently if, um, for instance, you can uh, always um, just uh, tune into yourself and see where they feel the nervousness. So for some people it's in their head. For some it's in their throat. For some it's in their heart or it's in their m. Um, stomach. So if you can just locate it in your body and if you're focusing on that spot and you can just exhale, um, while thinking on feeling, uh, to that emotion. So that helps, right, to just release that emotion and um, help your body actually transform, uh, it. And then if we go into the mind, then it's easier. We already prepped our body and uh, our emotions, uh, and you already start to feel more confident and calmer and then coming uh, to your mind, of course, with a deeper work. What I always ask is what are you exactly afraid of? So that we know, um, what is it that we're afraid of? Usually if we say fear, public speaking is something vague. And um, if we don't have the right definition, then our mind, whatever is vague, uh, it's perceived as a threat. So because we don't know how to solve it. But if we can define it more clearly, um, that is already a, ah, big step. Then we know exactly what are we dealing with. So if somebody says, okay, I'm afraid that actually on the stage I will lose my voice or I will forget my lines. That's already, uh, very specific. And in that moment then we know, okay, this is maybe realistic, um, result. But at the same time we can uh, think through the solution. So, okay. And I ask them, okay, what will happen if you lose your lines on stage? And then people, and this is our people in our mind actually help us with that. And then you think of the solution on the spot. You say, okay, I will take a couple of breaths, uh, or I'll take glass of water. Um, some people share it with the audience, whatever that is, um, that Is a remedy for you. So I think share

Speaker B: what the audience, Alexandra.

Speaker C: Well, you can share. Some people choose to share that they're afraid, or they say,

Speaker B: okay,

Speaker C: give me a moment, or. This is very important for me. Sorry for being emotional. So this. This can be a remedy for somebody. But, uh, what I want to encourage, really, what I do with my clients and the audience here, is to, uh, find their own solutions, to write, uh, their own recipes. I think we always accept, um, the remedies that, uh, resonate with us. I can always offer you the more solutions, um, from my side. But with these questions, actually, we come to what is important for me and what I know, what it works for me.

Speaker B: Okay. One of the tricks I've learned, I want to see if you, uh, like this, validate this, see if this works for you. I am. When I'm in the audience, the last thing I want to happen is for the speaker to fail. I want the speaker to do great because it sucks if they fail. It sucks for me. It's a waste of my time. It's embarrassing. And so I want them to do well. And I think everyone else in the audience feels the same way. So when you're going up there, I try to encourage myself and others to embrace that positive energy that everyone's giving you. They want you to do well, and they're there for you. They are on your side. They don't want to see you fail. They want you to be great, and you have a bunch of team members supporting you. What do you think about that?

Speaker C: I think that's awesome that you do that. First of the audience. And, um, you would be probably the person that I would tell my clients, okay, search for that person. That person that you can see on their face. They're really cheering for you. They want you to succeed. They're the ones as well. Nodding to everything that you say. Just search for that face and connect, and you will get as well, more energy, motivation to keep going.

Speaker B: So

Speaker C: thank you

Speaker B: so much

Speaker C: for sharing that. Because a lot of people, they see audience as, um, uh, a panel of judges, somebody who.

Speaker B: Or

Speaker C: the group of people. They're not. Usually they're not. Or simply some. They're cheering as you do. Some they don't, um, let's say they don't think deeply about the speaker. So they're there to hear, um, some information, to get some content. But afterwards, they will talk about something else or they will think about something else. Um, because we always think, um, when we have fear, uh, we're catastrophizing. It. And we think that, um, it will be worse than it is or that people will notice every single mistake or every single thing. But because of this, uh, spotlight effect, actually, what do we think it's grandiose or huge mistake? A lot of people in the audience, they don't even notice that because everybody's as well concerned, uh, about their daily things, um, what they have to do. Right. And in the eyes of the audience, it's not that big.

Speaker B: Yes. Well, I'm on that Amazon website for your book and not only is it five star rated, but I've looked around in it and the book has 4050 exercises for people to do.

Speaker C: Yes,

Speaker B: it looks very practical in hands on, which I absolutely love. So this looks like just an absolutely great one, um, that I'm going to recommend this to all the women out there. Um, do you recommend starting with a personal story? How do you do your plan, your first one minute, and what do you teach others to do in the first one minute?

Speaker C: Well, coming from my, uh, fearless method. So coming back to the content, I think it's important to uh, know your structure and um, to answer main questions. Uh, I don't know if you heard of the format technique. Here we have the four questions that it's important that you answer in your speech because this is coming from educational psychology. Because, um, we as people are interested in different things and with these four questions you're actually covering all of the interests and needs of your audience.

Speaker B: Okay, can you give us all of those slowly at first and so we can write them down and then we'll go back through each one separately for us. No questions.

Speaker C: Absolutely. So it is. Yes. Uh, why the concept or information that we're sharing is important. The second one is what? So what is the concept? What is a theory? Information that you're sharing?

Speaker B: Yes.

Speaker C: The third one is how. So people want to know the practices, the techniques they want hands, um, on, um, exercises that they can do. And the last one is what if? So you have to be prepared if your concept cannot be, let's say grasp or it cannot be practice for one case. So what if this does not work? So to offer as well, uh, the remedy for that.

Speaker B: And what does MAT stand for? So these, these are the four MAT techniques. What does the mat M A T stand for or mean there?

Speaker C: I'm not sure. Oh,

Speaker B: okay. I'm

Speaker C: sorry. It's the four. It's just a four question. So that's how the technique is called. There is no acronym for that mat.

Speaker B: Okay.

Speaker C: Format so we're formatting as well. Our speech,

Speaker B: uh,

Speaker C: what I usually would recommend is to start with why.

Speaker B: Yeah, let's go back and talk about why.

Speaker C: So the first one is why. So that answers your question is, uh, what to talk about in the first minute because you want to give the reason for your audience to stay and uh, to actually be convinced that you have something to share that um, is important for them.

Speaker B: Okay, give me an example of that. So our speech is on the importance of women, uh, going to school. And uh, we need to focus more on the countries where women are not given the same educational access. Okay, so you're speaking on that topic, Alexandra. Uh, give me a why there. So give me your first 30 seconds

Speaker C: in why you would answer, um, why is that important for them? So why school is important? Probably for them to get a better job, uh, to have a better life, to earn money, to be independent. So here you want to really focus on their, uh, needs, their desires, or maybe answer the question of some, some of their fears.

Speaker B: Okay, I think, uh, uh, I don't know. I think that's a. I would like to start with a personal story there.

Speaker C: Mhm.

Speaker B: Before you do why. And then say something about myself for 30 seconds and then say. And that's why I care so much about female education. Does that make sense?

Speaker C: Yes. You can do that? Um, it depends. Um, you know what? I don't give my clients ready sentences, ready solutions, um, because I think everybody should as well connect to their messages. What I've seen a lot of women that I think they know exactly what they want to say and they have great ideas. But that's why we use this framework. Right. So they would find out the sentences, that they will work for them. So it's authentic. So it's not, um, artificial that somebody infused that. Yeah, you should say this. Um, it is important to, to follow. Right, to. In order to, for your audience to get the answers to, uh, the questions they need, but not the exact script because, um, I really want my audience, my clients actually to find their authentic voice.

Speaker B: All right, I like that. Number two. What?

Speaker C: Number two is what? So some speakers start with this. And sometimes it can be cultural. I know in the United States you want to start with why. So you want to convince people why they should say, um. In Europe, sometimes we start with this concept. What? So, uh, maybe, um, it's just a different system, right? Um, education that we start with the theory, with the concepts, with information. So what is exactly that you're talking about? So that is, uh, for Your audience, and this is 25% of your audience actually that are interested in the concept. So let's say you're presenting new information, you're presenting the new product, um, system. You have to explain what actually it is so that is clear for your audience.

Speaker B: Number three, how.

Speaker C: How comes. To all the practical aspects. So you have to give the tools, techniques, um, strategies, uh, so people can actually practically use, uh, their concept. In education we would use a lot of case studies. Right. So that. How we can apply, um, the theory and the concepts into particular, uh, company or let's say campaign. Um, and as well, 25% of your audience is looking for that.

Speaker B: Number four, finally, what if.

Speaker C: What if? So, um, this is a little bit of the heckler's one, but you want to answer this one beforehand. So you're not waiting for your audience to ask, okay, that's great. Everything that you presented. But what if that does not work for me? Or what if, uh, that cannot be applied in my company? So you want actually to give them, uh, this answer, uh, beforehand during your speech.

Speaker B: Okay. As I said before, I love all of these exercises in the book and I really want to understand some of them. You have one exercise called Pen between Lips. Does that mean that you.

Speaker C: What

Speaker B: does that mean? You shouldn't take a pen up there and eat on it? Uh, what are you saying?

Speaker C: So that is the one that you use before your speech. So for yourself to prepare.

Speaker B: Uh-huh.

Speaker C: So you take a pen and you put it between your lips. Uh, our audience and can try it. Uh, so this one helps actually widen your mouth and um, it helps your voice to be fuller without you, uh, shouting or without you making that much effort. Uh, so you can just put the pen between your lips and, um, take a book or ah, article and start reading it. So I know when we hold something in our mouth, it's not very easy to read through anything. But here actually you're making an effort. Even though it is funny, it's uncomfortable. And you will notice once you take out the pen, how your voice is just fuller without an effort. So, um, having this, um, passage as well for your thoughts just to. As well to flow, um, in a nice voice, uh, projection.

Speaker B: TV screen. Visualization.

Speaker C: What is it?

Speaker B: Yes.

Speaker C: Can you repeat? Sorry, I couldn't hear.

Speaker B: TV screen Visualization.

Speaker C: Visualization, yes. So there's, um. My book is interactive, so you can scan the QR codes and there, uh, you can see some of the videos where it shows some of the body exercises.

Speaker B: But

Speaker C: this one. Yes, this one that you Mentioned is actually, uh, the audio meditation that I guide you through your best, uh, experience. Um, you can do it yourself. TV visualization that you picture a big TV screen in front of you there. Just, um, imagine that you click on, uh, the remote control and you appear with your, um, very best public speaking performance. And here is really the idea, uh, to watch, um, yourself, uh, doing your masterpiece performance. So how would you stand? How would you project, uh, the voice? What would be your pace? Um, what is your posture? M. How you're moving on the stage. So here you're giving already experience to your mind, uh, that it is possible for you because. And you're giving these steps. So how to do that? Because, uh, visualization, so what we put in our mind actually equals, um, our physical practice. And this is something that has already been proven. So whether you actually do this, um, of course, if you have a chance to practice, uh, more, uh, your public speaking work, any, uh, any activity, that is great, but sometimes you don't have a chance. You can only practice at home. So this one gives your mind the same experience as you have done it a number of times on stage.

Speaker B: I love it. Great advice, Alexandra. This is a great book and I love all of these exercises. I'm gonna buy it just to ease even. Oh, wait, am I allowed to buy it? You know, because I'm a man?

Speaker C: Of course it is from women, but men love it, I

Speaker B: think. So how do we find out more about you? Keep in touch. Reach out and get a copy of the book.

Speaker C: You can always visit my website. So a plasmid um dot com. And, uh, you can get my book on Amazon. So from fear to Fearless Female Speaker. And of course, uh, we can connect on LinkedIn or Instagram. So it's Alexandra Plazini, PhD. I usually, um, post some, uh, tips and I give the practices there, so you can always check it out.

Speaker B: Fantastic. Thank you so much for being with this great information. I hope the book sells really well for you and thanks for being with us. I hope you come back.

Speaker C: Thank you so much for having me. It was a pleasure.

Speaker B: We will be right back.

Speaker D: Well, that's a. That's a. That's a wonderful question, actually. M.

Speaker E: Oh, my gosh. I love the opportunity to do this. Thank you, Jim.

Speaker D: Wow, that's. That's, uh, that's a great one. You know, that is a phenomenal question. That's a great question. And. And I don't have a great answer. That's a great question. Oh, that is such a loaded question. And that's actually a good, really, really good question.

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Speaker B: we are back and again, thank you so much for being with us. How many of us have body aches and parts of our body that just don't work as well? And we go to the doctor and they take all this blood work and give us more pills to maintain ourselves. It's just ridiculous. I, of course, as you know, have got several chronic conditions and I can't wait to see what my next guest. Thanks about all of this. Please welcome Dan Lopez to the show. He is the founder and CEO of the Bioelectric Therapy Center. They are in San Antonio, Texas. And his work focuses on taking some ancient Chinese methods and complying or, uh, combining that with the laws of nature, electrical principles, advanced wellness scans and AI guided assessments. And the pictures on his website, which is Bioelectric therapy center. Yeah, bioelectric therapycenter.com are amazing. And some of the stories we're going to ask him about are some of his patients who, uh. I'll just let him tell some of the stories, but they are amazing. Dan Lopez, welcome to the show. How you doing today?

Speaker F: Thank you very much there, Mr. Beach. I'm doing well.

Speaker B: Gotta call me Jim. Dan. We're super. Okay, Jim, super casual here. So why don't we start off. Tell me the story of Clarissa.

Speaker F: Okay, well, I tell you what, um, if I can, I'd like to tell you about, um, my therapy first, if that's okay. So you can kind of understand how I got to Clarissa.

Speaker B: Okay, sure. I was going to go back there, but let you establish how cool you were first with Clarissa. But we can do it either way. Whatever you want.

Speaker F: I'll tell you what. Yeah, we'll follow suit as you see fit. And let me tell you about Clarissa. Okay. That was very interesting, uh, um, experience that I had with Clarissa. Her mother had found my website and she contacted me and she goes, hey, you know, we. My daughter has had some success with pemf, pulse electronic magnetic field. And I see that you do that. I, uh, was wondering if perhaps I could bring my daughter in to see what's going on. And I said, well, PEMF is only really half the equation of what I'm doing. I'm actually combining PEMF with bioelectric stimulation. So I went on to explain her a few things and, uh, sure enough, she said, well, I would certainly like to bring my daughter in because my daughter's 22 years old and, uh, she's dealing with lupus and is dealing with so much Pain that, uh, her mobility has suffered and, uh, she was quite depressed. You can imagine a 22 year old, you know, having to deal with these health issues. So sure enough, uh, they, they brought her in and to my surprise, she was in a wheelchair. And I went, oh my God, this is going to be interesting. So, sure enough, uh, I had the opportunity to work on her with my bioelectric, uh, therapy. And uh, as I worked through her, you know, I, I discovered a few things. Uh, with bioelectric therapy, I'm able to determine and find where the inflammation points are in the body. In her condition, she had inflammation going up and down the spine. Uh, it was painful. Let me put it this way. When I hit an inflammation point in the body, it feels like a bruise. It can be quite painful. But I'm able to monitor how much electricity I apply to the body based on the communication that, you know, I establish with the clients as I'm working on them. Okay. So I was able to work the session with her. And typically a session will run about an hour. The two things that all electronic devices need to function optimally. Okay, My background told me that, okay, if we're an electronic device, all electronic devices need two things to function optimally. One is grounding, and the second thing is proper voltage. So my therapy is, is based on those two principles. So getting back to Clarissa after I worked on her, it was amazing. I, I was surprised on how well it worked that once I got her off the table and I moved her over to the waiting room and, and had follow up discussion with her mother, uh, I noticed that her eyes had had a gleaming into them like, you know, life had come into her eyes. And I kind of mentioned to Clarissa's, uh, mother, I said, rosanna, is it just me or I just see a gleam in Clarissa's, uh, eyes now. And she says, no, so do I. I see it as well. So then, sure enough, you know, uh, we talked about, uh, you know, how often she should come in. And given the acuteness of her condition, I asked that she come in twice a week for the first two weeks. Well, sure enough, uh, as we were getting to wrap up, I asked Clarissa this question. I said, clarissa, do you want to get back in your wheelchair or do you want to try to walk back to your car? And she looked at me and she kind of said, I want to try to walk back to my car. We were surprised, but at the same time, I grabbed one side of Clarissa and Rosanna, her mother grabbed the other side, and we walked her back to her car. And uh, sure enough, a couple days later, they came back for the second treatment. And to my surprise, she came without her wheelchair and her father was, uh, uh, bringing her to the clinic. And uh, sure enough, uh, we worked on her again. And to my amazement, she, uh, was showing improvement every time she came in. And uh, she came in, uh, twice a week for two weeks. But then again she, after that she came back once a month. And now it's been about four or five years since I've worked on her. And if I see her once or twice a year, uh, that's, that's basically all that I see her at. Because she comes in, she goes, dan, I need my charge. I need a charge. So, uh, at that point I realized that I, uh, was on to something, uh, on how to treat the body with the bioelectric therapy.

Speaker B: There's a picture of her on the website in the wheelchair. And then there's a picture of her in a gym working out, it looks like. And then there's a picture of her on the top of a mountain, jumping and doing the Michael Jordan jump on the top of the mountain, looking as vivacious as any 22, 23 year old could look. Look, she looked like she just climbed a mountain and then jumped higher on top of it. So I wanted to get all of that established, Dan. To study, show people how cool you are. I have tingles right now. As a matter of fact, I'm looking at, uh, pictures of Clarissa and I actually have. My hair is sticking up. Uh,

Speaker F: well, I'm tingling right along with you.

Speaker B: It's just an amazing story. Now what the hell you doing? How's all this work? What is the bioelectric? Is my body a bioelectric machine?

Speaker F: Exactly.

Speaker B: Okay, I never heard that before. No one's ever told me that my body, uh, we always talk about our chemistries. We go and get our chemistries done. We never talk about going and getting our electrics done.

Speaker F: Exactly. And really before that, uh, chemistry can even take place, the electricity body is what plays the role for the cells to communicate. So bottom line is, it's this. If you don't have the electricity required for your cells to communicate, then, uh, you're really missing the important element. Because before chemistry can come into play, electricity has to be in place. And that's something I learned from my system engineering, network engineering background. We could look at the higher levels of the issues. We could replace software, things of that nature. But fundamentally, if electrically, that network or that system is not sound and complete, then it's not going to work. Right. Okay,

Speaker B: so 30 years in it before you started on this, right?

Speaker F: Yeah, that's correct. And that's where I kind of develop the first before we, uh, start messing around with things, uh, on the chemical layer of things. Okay. And an analogy I like to use is that, uh, in system engineering, network engineering, there's a, there's a thing called, there's a seven layer system that's called the open system interconnect. Okay. And layer one is the physical layer. Okay. If you don't have the layer one physical layer working soundly, as it should, and every other layer, layer two through layer seven is going to suffer because layer one, the electrical layer, the physical layer, is not in place. I now view, you know, uh, what I'm doing, bioelectric therapy as layer one and Western medicine dealing with the chemistry of the body as layer two. So, uh, you can work with layer two and hopefully it'll address the symptom. But fundamentally, if electrically everything's not there as it should be, then you really haven't addressed, uh, the problem.

Speaker B: All right, so how do you measure a person and tell where they are? What is the test?

Speaker F: Okay. Well, what's interesting as well, because of my system engineering background, I realized, I said, you know what, I've got to find a device that I can measure the progress of, uh, what I'm doing with the therapy. Well, sure enough, I found a device in China and I said, well, you know what, I'm going to bring it in and I'm going to test it, uh, and see how it works. Well, to my surprise, it correlated with how things worked objectively, with how they were feeling subjectively. And I went, wow, this is fantastic. And sure enough, it's a Device that in one minute it'll scan you and give men 248 test results of what's going on in your body from head to toe at a cellular level. And for women it's 256. So I use that to monitor and track the progress objectively of what, uh, I'm doing to the clients with the, uh, bioelectric therapy.

Speaker B: Okay, great. And do you have to get any sort of FDA approval for this? Are you just, just out there shocking people?

Speaker F: Well, I have a home based business. Okay. So I started at a home and I was, I was recommended to stay at the home. So I can kind of bypass all of these, uh, uh, restrictions and requirements for a business, uh, in a brick and mortar location. Okay. So it gives me a lot more freedom to be able to work with the customer or work with the clients. And I explained that to them, and I have them sign a waiver that, you know, allows me to do, do what I, uh, need to do because I have to apply the electricity using my hands. Okay. I like to describe it as turbocharged acupuncture, but without the needles. I actually provide the electricity using, uh, my hands. I connect myself to the device, and I connect myself to the negative pads, and I give the client the positive pads. So what happens is that when I touch the client anywhere in the body, they will feel the electricity that comes from my hands, uh, to the portions of the body. And what's very interesting is that, um, because of the fact that I'm applying electricity to the body, I'm able to determine or the body tells me where they have blockages. Blockages is, uh, basically a resistor, when you think about it. And getting, uh, into acupuncture, when you think about what the needles are actually doing, uh, when they apply the needles into the body with acupuncture, those needles are acting as little antennas. They're picking up the electrical energy. So that's why when you go to an acupuncture, it takes a while. You know, you're in there for about 20, 30 minutes while the little needles or antennas are up, picking, picking up the electrical energy to get what, uh, you know, the Chinese medicine calls the chi, get the qi moving. And as I understand it, that, uh, if the cheese not moving properly, then your blood's not flowing properly. And then if your blood's not flowing properly, then you, the organs are not getting the oxygen that it needs.

Speaker B: Okay.

Speaker F: So I hope that that kind of,

Speaker B: uh, hurt when the electricity, when the plus and minus connections are, are made. And

Speaker F: well, I, I would say my goal is to make it a very comfortable experience. Okay. Because, uh, you can manage and you can monitor the amount of electricity that you provide to the, to the, uh, to the client. Okay. But, uh, my goal is to keep it as comfortable because, believe it or not, once you feel the electricity going to your body, your body almost welcomes it because we're only trying device. And it's just like, oh, my God, I've been needing this. I just know the first time that I experienced it, it was a sensation I had never felt before. And I said, you know what? I need to know more about this. And, uh, you know, uh, what happens usually with people, even I've had people on, on the table when I'm actually working on them, they get so comfortable and Relaxed, they actually fall asleep. Okay. So, you know, a lot of it has to do with, you know, the anxiety that you kind of have to say, hey, everything's fine, everything's going to work out. Just let me apply this electricity. And a lot of people will say, wow, that feels good. So, uh, I would say, does, uh, it hurt? No. If someone knows what they're doing as far as applying the electricity, no. Can it hurt? Yes, it can hurt when we hit an inflammation point because it feels like a bruise, or if we hit a pinched nerve, it feels like a burning sensation. But that's all good information to know, to feel so that you, you, you can determine as, as a therapist, uh, where exactly you need to, uh, apply the, uh, biostimulation, the electrical stimulation to, on the body.

Speaker B: So what different diseases can this be used for? So we established lupus. And you've mentioned inflammation several times. What, what group of.

Speaker F: Well, um, I'll just say this. You know, I'm not providing, uh, a cure for any of this. I would simply say I help people with, improve the quality of their lives. Okay. And if I think about the clients that I have worked with, I have worked with about three clients that have lupus. Okay. One actually came in in a walker all the way from Houston, and I live in San Antonio. So they came, uh, when they found my website, uh, and they found the Clarissa story, the husband called me and asked me if I could work on, on his wife who's had, uh, lupus for nine years. Well, sure enough, she came in just out of the hospital and, uh, came in for a session as well. And, uh, by the time they drove back to Houston, uh, she reported back to me that she wasn't even using her walker to get back in. But to answer your question as to what conditions it has worked, I simply say this. I'm going to provide you, I'm going to provide your body the energy it needs so that it can heal itself. Okay. And I've worked with people like say, with lupus, with epilepsy, with depression, with, uh, insomnia, with chronic fatigue. And lately I've been working with this one gentleman with Parkinson's disease. And to me, I am, um. The transformation that has happened with this gentleman in the last, uh, it's almost been a year. That he's been coming to me at least once a month, uh, is beyond my belief, uh, that something like what I'm doing, uh, could help him so much. But even his doctors ask him, he goes, what are you doing? And he goes, we've never seen anybody improve with Parkinson's as much as you have. And he said, well, I go to bioelectric therapy. And they just simply say, well, whatever you're doing, keep doing it. So. So I'm always anxious and eager to bring in new clients with new conditions because fundamentally, it comes down to this. When the body has the energy it needs, it can heal itself. I believe that.

Speaker B: That's a great line right there. We will tweet that out. How many people overall have you used this on, Dan?

Speaker F: Well, I've been doing it now for six years, and I would tell you that normally I handle probably around 200 to 250 sessions a year. Now, some of those sessions are repeat clients, obviously, as well. But if I think the number of people that I have actually applied bioelectric therapy do, it's in the hundreds.

Speaker B: Okay. Well, it's getting up close to a thousand, it looks like, from those numbers, isn't it?

Speaker F: Yeah, it is. It certainly is. If I went back and added it up, I would say, yeah, I'm close to a thousand sessions, uh, under my belt.

Speaker B: And what are the, uh, bad things that can happen? What are some of the extreme negative consequences?

Speaker F: Well, the side effects that can happen are really detoxing that's going on. Okay. Some people will say they slept better than had slept in years. And others will say I couldn't sleep at all because of all the energy that was going on with me. And that energy, the way I see it, is basically nervous energy that needs to get released. Okay. So some people can have, uh, you know, like, say. Some people can just want to fall asleep. You know, they say, look, my body needs a rest. And a lot of it has to do is because the body, the blood needs to regenerate, and it regenerates more when the body's asleep. So it's just doing its natural thing. Okay. Some other people will say, well, I had to go to the bathroom about four or five times and things of that nature. And if you think about that, that's all detoxing that

Speaker B: the body's going through. Yeah, that's a good sign.

Speaker F: Yeah.

Speaker B: Nothing comes out of you, though.

Speaker F: No, no, nothing grand. It's just, you know, people say, well, I, uh, you know, I had to go to the bathroom three or four times, and. And. And I told them that's a good thing. Your body's getting rid of the stuff that it needs, you know. And like, uh, I say I'm surprised that it's working as well as it is, but it Came down to the fact that we're an electronic device. And this therapy is based on those two principles. I provide grounding and then I provide the bioelectric stimulation. Because, uh, you know, what's really important here, and let me go ahead and bring this out, is, you know, I, I tell my clients, I said, listen, those two things you need to do, one is grounding. I said, that's real simple. Just go out on mother. On Mother earth barefooted for 30 minutes each day and get the medicine that the earth offers to you by just getting connected to the, to the, to the earth again. Okay? That's a simple thing. The second thing is the proper voltage. If your cells need, let's say negative 20 to negative 25 millivolts and your body's only producing around 15 or 10 or things of that nature, well, obviously you don't have all the energy that the cells need. So that when they regenerate, they can regenerate as healthy cells. If they don't have the energy they need, then they regenerate as sub healthy cells. And you know, with time we just become less healthier, or I should say more sub healthy, uh, because of the fact that our voltage in our bodies is going down. So then the question is this. Well, how do you determine how much voltage you have in your body? Well, it's as simple as this. It's based on your PH level, okay. Whether you're acidic or whether you're alkaline. Now, for the longest time, I always got confused. Well, what do I want to be, alkaline or acidic? And I'm confused. I don't know what all that means. Well, what I like to describe it is this. An acidic condition is like a dirty, murky fishbowl. If you look at the fish, which is representing of the cells, so to speak, in a dirty, murky fishbowl, what do they look like? Well, they don't look very healthy. They don't look happy. And they're just, you know, swimming around. Just

Speaker B: die?

Speaker F: Yeah, about to die. That's what an acidic condition looks like. Okay? Now if you take a clean, pristine fishbowl and you look at the fish there, boy, they're vibrant and happy and, um, they're happy to be alive. Simple as that. And that's an alkaline condition. That's where we want to be, you know, and then people say, well, where do you want to be? Uh, as far as the PH level is concerned? Well, you want to be between 7.35 and 7.45. Okay? That's what brings you the 20 millivolts and the 25 or negative 20 and negative 25 millivolts you need so that your cells can regenerate as healthy cells. Only problem is, is half. I would tell you 80% of the people that I come in and I test them and one of the things that the test device does is measures the ph at the cellular level and it tells me exactly where they are, uh, relative to the ph scale. And if you think about it, what's sad is that we care more about the ph level of the water in our swimming pools and in our than we do in and of the water in our bodies. And we're 70 water,

Speaker B: that is. So

Speaker F: why is that?

Speaker B: Think I was sitting here thinking how am I going to test myself with a pool strip? And you nailed me there. I do care more about the ph level of the pool than I do my body, Dan. Uh,

Speaker F: exactly. Most of us do. I mean, we're, we, we ignore how important that ph level is because really, when you think about it. And I learned a lot of this from Dr. Uh, Tennant, who wrote the book Helium and Voltage. When I read his book, it helped me connect the dots between, uh, the traditional Chinese medicine, the law of nature and electrical principles. But anyway, he simply made it clear to me that the ph level is basically the measurement of voltage in water. And I went, ah, okay,

Speaker B: makes sense. Then

Speaker F: I, then, then I get it. You know, I get it. So the fact that I found a device that can test, test and measure the, uh, the, the ph level and then with everything else of ph, now there's things that you want to do also not only get charged up, but you want to change your diet, you want to get rid of sugar, you want to do these things and processed foods, you want to get rid of that because all those things cause you to become more acidic. And once again you want to be on the alkaline side.

Speaker B: Great, Great, Dan, Amazing information. You've opened my eyes to a lot of things. How do we find out more about you? Get in touch, see the website.

Speaker F: Well, my website is bioelectric therapycenter.com. okay. My contact information is there. Um, like I say, I'm always open and eager and excited to try what other conditions that I've had with. Because I've had some stories that you know for me to sit here and tell you. Well, here's my first hand experiences that I had with somebody who had dementia or here's somebody, my first hand experience with somebody that's had Parkinson's disease or insomnia or depression, all these things. So what happens is that once you get the blood flowing, then that's key to the body is the circulation of blood in our bodies. And what happens is that we get stuck because of the toxic stresses that we have in our body. That it impedes the blood flow, which then impedes the oxygen that all the organs need.

Speaker B: Wow. Great information, dan. Bioelectric Therapy Center.com. thank you so much for being with us. We are out of time. But you know what we do? That's right. We come back. Take care, make a million dollars. Bye.