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Scaling Tech

Hosted by Debbie Madden

★5.0on Apple Podcasts · 4 recent reviews

Are you a CTO, Chief Product Officer or Tech leader? Then this one's for you: If there was one tool that would help you learn best practices and avoid top mistakes so that you can achieve your goals, would you consider that tool? If you answered "yes," this is the tool you've been looking for.

45 episodes · publishes fortnightly · latest 2025-01-30 · ~26 min/episode

Rank

#4630

Substance

53.0

/ 100

Breakdown

Scored 2026-07
Updated monthly

Engineering & DevTools rank

#249 of 290

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Across the index

#4630 of 6203

Substance

Top 75%

outscores 25% of the index

Why it scores where it does

Scaling Tech ranks #4630 on The B2B Podcast Index with a substance score of 53.0 out of 100, scored across 1 recent episode. It scores highest on insight density and originality. The episode contains a handful of genuinely useful technical specifics - the Roslyn-compiler-based tracing approach, the RAG store for code context, and the code-to-requirements inversion - but these are buried under heavy promotional framing, host cheerleading, and conversational filler. The ratio of novel ideas per minute is low.

The five-dimension breakdown

Averaged across 1 recently scored episode, with cited evidence.

Insight Density

12.0 / 20

The episode contains a handful of genuinely useful technical specifics - the Roslyn-compiler-based tracing approach, the RAG store for code context, and the code-to-requirements inversion - but these are buried under heavy promotional framing, host cheerleading, and conversational filler. The ratio of novel ideas per minute is low.

“we actually trace the code by, uh, specifying an entry point into the code. And this is highly specific to C. NET code, uh, where we have a tracing tool that works with the Roslyn compiler for C. Net.”

“we can take essentially an exhaustive list of all of the pieces of code that are between you when you do your action in the application and your database. And then we can submit those to an LLM and get the LLM to tell us, you know, like what's going on here”

Originality

12.0 / 20

The framing of reversing the typical GenAI workflow - extracting requirements from code rather than generating code from requirements - is a genuinely non-obvious angle, and the 'unseen code' prediction has some freshness. However, the broader narrative about legacy debt pain is thoroughly recycled territory with no contrarian or first-principles arguments.

“We're essentially doing the reverse process at least in this beginning portion where we're taking the code and we're trying to extract like the, what the heck is going on in terms that people can discuss with one another.”

“I feel like I'm going to go ahead and make a prediction that there's going to be a new class of code... we're going to call it unseen code.”

Guest Caliber

9.0 / 20

The guests are internal Stride employees appearing on their own company's podcast to promote their own product; there is no external practitioner, customer, or independent expert. While they demonstrate hands-on knowledge, the format is fundamentally a product marketing piece, not an arm's-length practitioner interview.

“I couldn't be happier, uh, than to have a wonderful chat with some of my favorite coworkers, Michael, uh, Carlson and Michael Wytak.”

“we're going to be putting in the show notes, um, a link so you can have a chat with us, so we can show you 100x um, and how it relates to your needs.”

Specificity & Evidence

12.0 / 20

There are some concrete specifics - the Roslyn compiler, C.NET scope, a real customer anecdote about a fire icon in a UI, and rough time comparisons (same day vs. 2 - 5 weeks) - but no named client companies, no hard ROI metrics, no dollar figures, and the headline stat ('70% of Fortune 500 software is 20+ years old') is unreferenced. Evidence stays at the level of illustration rather than proof.

“we went to the form, we traced through the form, we came back out, we pulled the requirements out, we said, well you know, the fire icon pops up because of Baba Baba Boo. And not only that, it's this color when this happens and this color when this happens.”

“70% of the software that's in use at Fortune 500 companies is 20 or more years old”

Conversational Craft

8.0 / 20

The host is interviewing colleagues about their own product, producing an almost entirely softball exchange with no pushback, no probing follow-ups, and repeated enthusiastic agreement. Questions are open-ended invitations to pitch rather than attempts to stress-test claims or surface trade-offs.

“I mean, and I think three, four, five weeks is you're being nice”

“I'm just so excited that we're having this conversation because I think there's like this whole world of what's possible”

Standout episodes

  • How GenAI + Automation Are Going to Revolutionize Legacy Code Migration

    2025-01-30

    53

Rank over time

First period on the Index - history builds from here.

Episodes

1 scored on substance · 45 tracked in total.

  • How GenAI + Automation Are Going to Revolutionize Legacy Code Migration

    2025-01-30 · 29 min

    53 / 100

What listeners say on Apple Podcasts

★★★★★
Great insights
Loved the insight, “focus on outcomes over output.” Been using that at work to help drive change in our organization’s focus.

- Jondrew33

★★★★★
The world could use more Debbie Madden content!
I loved the quote “If we can't bring the tech leaders to the network, we will bring that network to the tech leaders.” I feel like it’s been more true than ever. Debbie’s connection and knowledge and breaking it down to a podcast will help the tech scene positively! I’m looking forward to the next episodes to come!!

- GoogleMike

Frequently asked

What is Scaling Tech's substance score?
Scaling Tech scores 53.0 out of 100 for substance and ranks #4630 on The B2B Podcast Index. That puts it ahead of 25% of the B2B podcasts we rank and #249 of 290 in Engineering & DevTools. The score reflects insight density, originality, guest caliber, specificity and conversational craft across recent episodes - not downloads.
Is Scaling Tech worth listening to?
Scaling Tech is ranked on The B2B Podcast Index with a substance score of 53.0/100. See the five-dimension breakdown above to judge whether it fits what you're after.
Who hosts Scaling Tech?
Scaling Tech is hosted by Debbie Madden.
How often does Scaling Tech publish?
Scaling Tech publishes fortnightly, has 45 episodes, released its most recent episode on 2025-01-30.
Which Scaling Tech episode should I start with?
Our highest-scoring recent episode is "How GenAI + Automation Are Going to Revolutionize Legacy Code Migration" (53/100) - a good place to start.

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Frequently discusses

Companies, products and tools that come up most across this show's episodes.

Stride100XStride ConductorRoslyn

Guests who've appeared

Michael CarlsonMichael Wytak

Topics this show covers

The themes that come up most across this show's episodes.

Retrieval Augmented Generation (RAG)GitHub CopilotStride 100xC.NET legacy applicationsCode tracing and Roslyn compilerBusiness requirement extractionGenAI and LLMs for code modernizationVertical slice modernizationTech debt and legacy systemsFortune 500 legacy software statistics

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