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SaaShimi

Hosted by Aznaur Midov

Podcast about software and cloud

43 episodes · ~33 min/episode

Rank

#337

Substance

78.0

/ 100

Breakdown

Scored 2026-07
Updated monthly

SaaS rank

#14 of 172

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Across the index

#337 of 6181

Substance

Top 5%

outscores 95% of the index

Why it scores where it does

SaaShimi ranks #337 on The B2B Podcast Index with a substance score of 78.0 out of 100, scored across 1 recent episode. It scores highest on guest caliber and insight density. Jacco van der Kooij is a credible practitioner-consultant who founded Winning by Design, has worked across many SaaS companies at scale, and references a published book and prior engineering career; he clearly has depth. That said, he is a career consultant rather than an operator who personally built a sales org from scratch to $100M, which limits his caliber slightly against pure practitioners.

The five-dimension breakdown

Averaged across 1 recently scored episode, with cited evidence.

Insight Density

17.0 / 20

The episode delivers a reasonable number of actionable frameworks - pod model, 40% cost ceiling, 90-day ramp rule, SDR-to-AE ratio math, and the CSM compound-impact argument - but is padded with basic definitions (what is an MQL, what is an SQL, what is a discovery call) that experienced operators already know, reducing the net density of genuinely novel ideas per minute.

“The cost of the pods should never exceed 40% of the revenue that they're generating.”

“If I divide 240 by 0.4, I come out to $600,000. So now it's in order to be in a SaaS business, in order to run an efficient and effective model, they need $240,000. They spend in order to secure $600,000.”

Originality

15.0 / 20

The CSM compound-impact-versus-AE-single-conversion-rate argument is a genuinely contrarian and mathematically grounded take that pushes against conventional SaaS compensation norms; the 'sprint pods' concept for market testing is also fresh. However, the bulk of the content - founder-led sales first, SDR as educator, go-to-market fit as a distinct stage - recycles well-circulated SaaS GTM doctrine.

“the compound impact is to the power of periods which was 30 months. So if I get it right, and the customer success manager can improve just by being involved in a deal...1% to the power of 36, the impact on the profit of that customer success manager by far exceed that of the impact of the ae.”

“we rotate one of the pods very quickly, let's say every three to four weeks to a different market and they focus on that particular market for three, four, five weeks in a row. We rotate them through three, four, five different markets.”

Guest Caliber

18.0 / 20

Jacco van der Kooij is a credible practitioner-consultant who founded Winning by Design, has worked across many SaaS companies at scale, and references a published book and prior engineering career; he clearly has depth. That said, he is a career consultant rather than an operator who personally built a sales org from scratch to $100M, which limits his caliber slightly against pure practitioners.

“at Winning by Design we help companies scale their business between 1 and $100 million”

“I've written a book, Sales as a Science where I specifically talk about standard framework that we can all communicate along and provide specific Benchmark for different ACVs”

Specificity & Evidence

17.0 / 20

The episode contains genuinely worked examples with numbers - Bay Area SDR at $50K, AE at $100 - 115K, the $240K cost producing $600K revenue, the 20% close rate benchmark at $20K ACV, 6 - 7% annual churn benchmark - which is better than average. However, no real named client companies are cited, most figures are illustrative rather than drawn from verified case studies, and several examples are hypothetical constructs.

“In generally if I have an SDR and let's say I pay this SDR in the Bay Area $50,000 and let's say I set them up in a one on one environment with an AE at 100 to $15,000. That means that the total cost of this is $200,000.”

“the industry Standard for a $20,000 contract, somewhere between 66 to 7% on an annual churn”

Conversational Craft

11.0 / 20

The host's questions function almost entirely as transition prompts that allow Jacco to continue his prepared monologue; there is no pushback, no follow-up probing an unexpected claim, and no productive disagreement anywhere in the episode. The questions are topically sensible but structurally identical and would not surface anything Jacco had not already planned to say.

“Could you please walk us through other uh, levels?”

“Could you please elaborate on the steps or actions that we need to take”

Standout episodes

  • III. Building a Sales Org - Jacco van der Kooij
    78

Rank over time

First period on the Index - history builds from here.

Episodes

1 scored on substance · 43 tracked in total.

  • III. Building a Sales Org - Jacco van der Kooij

    57 min

    78 / 100

Frequently asked

What is SaaShimi's substance score?
SaaShimi scores 78.0 out of 100 for substance and ranks #337 on The B2B Podcast Index. That puts it ahead of 95% of the B2B podcasts we rank and #14 of 172 in SaaS. The score reflects insight density, originality, guest caliber, specificity and conversational craft across recent episodes - not downloads.
Is SaaShimi worth listening to?
Yes - SaaShimi outscores 95% of the B2B saas podcasts and shows we rank on substance, so a saas operator is likely to come away with something useful.
Who hosts SaaShimi?
SaaShimi is hosted by Aznaur Midov.
How often does SaaShimi publish?
SaaShimi has 43 episodes.
Which SaaShimi episode should I start with?
Our highest-scoring recent episode is "III. Building a Sales Org - Jacco van der Kooij" (78/100) - a good place to start.

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Guests who've appeared

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The themes that come up most across this show's episodes.

Product-market fitConsultative sellingDiscovery call frameworksSales enablement contentCustomer-centric sales processSales development rep (SDR)Go-to-market modelsClient acquisition cost (CAC)SDRAE organizational structureProvocative selling

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