
Relocalizing Health with Dave Chase · 2026-06-26 · 13 min
Key moments - from our scoring
Substance score
40 / 100
Five dimensions, 20 points each
Russell DeBose, VP of HR at Phifer Inc., a 1,200-person aluminum and fiberglass screening manufacturer in Tuscaloosa, Alabama, applied lean Six Sigma manufacturing principles to healthcare cost management - treating it as a supply chain problem rather than an inevitable expense. After discovering the Health Rosetta framework through the CEO's Guide to Restoring the American Dream, DeBose and his benefits consultant Ann Blair Gribbin conducted Kaizen events, used the Health Rosetta Plan Grader (scoring 37 out of 100 - well above the typical 5-17 range), and implemented a seven-year roadmap including advanced primary care, transparent pharmacy, direct provider contracts, and on-site physical therapy. The Phifer Cares Clinic launched in 2019 with zero cost-share for primary care, achieving 88% daily capacity within months. Over five years, the company maintained essentially flat healthcare spending while reinvesting savings into employee scholarships, childcare subsidies, and pharmacy co-pay elimination - benefiting over 1,700 patients. Their Plan Grader score improved from 37 to 74. This case demonstrates that mid-market manufacturers can solve healthcare affordability without relocating jobs overseas, positioning Phifer as a model for employers nationwide and establishing DeBose as a thought leader testifying before Congress on ERISA reform.
The Plan Rosetta Plan Grader is a 45-minute assessment tool that scores health plans on quality metrics like transparent networks, specialty care, and pharmacy benefits. Phifer scored 37 out of 100 initially - well above the typical 5-17 employer baseline - and used the resulting 30-page diagnostic report as a roadmap to improve, reaching 74 by year five.
Phifer Cares offered zero cost-share advanced primary care to all employees and dependents, achieving 88% daily capacity within months. Subsequent additions included direct provider contracts, nurse navigation, on-site physical therapy, transparent pharmacy benefits, and elimination of on-site pharmacy co-pays benefiting over 1,700 patients.
By applying manufacturing lean Six Sigma principles to healthcare, implementing direct contracts with providers, deploying nurse navigation, managing pharmacy transparently, and investing in primary care access. The company absorbed inflation and high-cost claims while reinvesting savings in employee scholarships, childcare subsidies, and benefit enhancements.
Ann Blair Gribbin at Cobb's Allen joined the Health Rosetta program at Russell DeBose's direct request, then partnered with him to run Kaizen events and develop the seven-year healthcare roadmap that became the foundation for all subsequent clinical and financial improvements.
Retirement readiness scores climbed more than 20 points, directly increasing employee wealth. Additional benefits included hundreds of thousands in education scholarships for employees' children, summer enrichment for 200+ kids, childcare subsidies for 250+ families, and elimination of pharmacy co-pays at the on-site clinic.
Our reviewer’s read on each dimension, with quotes from the episode.
The episode contains real operational data points (plan grader scores, utilization rates, reinvestment categories) and the supply-chain framing of healthcare is genuinely useful for manufacturing operators, but roughly a third of the runtime is spent promoting Rosetta Fest and the book, diluting the density of actionable insight.
he asked, why are we not, uh, applying that same rigor that we have on the factory floor to the single biggest line item after, uh, wages
The first score that they got on their plan grade was a 37 out of 100. Now you know that sounds low until uh, you hear that most employers land between a 5 and a 17 when they start this process
The reframe of benefits as a supply-chain problem with Kaizen events is a genuinely interesting analogy that most HR audiences haven't operationalized, but the underlying playbook - direct primary care, transparent PBM, Health Rosetta - is a well-circulated template in employer-benefits reform circles, and the Warren Buffett GM quote is a well-worn citation.
Russell didn't see benefits, uh, as the problem and in isolation. He saw it as a supply chain problem
back a couple decades ago, Warren Buffett described General Motors as a health and benefits company with an auto company attached
Russell DeBose is a credible, senior practitioner who has testified before Congress and chairs a state employer coalition - genuinely high-caliber - but he does not appear or speak in this episode; the entire episode is a solo host monologue narrating his story secondhand.
The man at the center of this story is Russell DeBose. He's the VP of HR at Fife Rank
Russell has gotten national attention. He was asked to testify before the House Energy, uh, and Commerce Committee on ERISA
The episode is notably data-rich for a short promotional piece: named company, named consultant, plan grader subscores by category, clinic utilization percentages, multi-year spending trajectory, and retirement readiness point gains all appear; the weakest spots are vague dollar figures ('hundreds of thousands') and secondhand attribution throughout.
transparent open Networks scored a zero, major specialty and outlier patients scored a 12. Pharmacy was a 43
Within months the clinic was running at 88% of daily capacity and 58% of the eligible members were actively using it
This is a solo monologue with no guest, no questions, no follow-ups, and no pushback of any kind; storytelling is competent and well-paced for a promotional mini-episode, but there is zero interview craft to evaluate.
Hey there. Welcome to a special series within the Relocalizing Health podcast as we count down to Rosetta fest in Nashville
Well, that's the story for today. If it resonated. The new Relocalizing Health book is going deeper into that and Nashville goes deeper still
Computed from the transcript - who did the talking, and the words that came up most.
Welcome to a special series within Relocalizing Health as we count down to RosettaFest in Nashville, July 29 to 31. Each one of these is a quick look inside the book and the communities that inspired it. Real places, real numbers, real people who decided to stop waiting for someone else to fix healthcare and just built something better themselves. If you don't have your ticket to Nashville yet, go grab it at RosettaFest.org . This is where the people in these stories will actually be in the room with you. Here's more about today's special episode Phifer Incorporated is a family-owned manufacturing company in Tuscaloosa, Alabama. About 1,200 employees. They make aluminum, fiberglass, and polyester screening - the window screens in your home, the sun-shading fabric on your lawn furniture. They are also the last remaining made-in-USA manufacturer in their category. And they figured out something most Fortune 500 companies still have not figured out about healthcare. This episode is the story of Russell DuBose, VP of HR at Phifer, who refused to treat healthcare like a force of nature he could not touch.
Transcribed and scored by The B2B Podcast Index.
Speaker A: Before we start, I want to invite you to Rosetta Fest 2026 in Nashville. This is where employers, unions and clinicians who are cutting healthcare costs 20 to 50% while improving care and outcomes share exactly how they did it. Operators learning from operators with patients at the table. Learn more and register@RosettaFest.org now let's get into today's conversation. Hey there. Welcome to a special series within the Relocalizing Health podcast as we count down to Rosetta fest in Nashville, July 29th to 31st. Each one of these episodes is a quick look inside the book and the communities that inspired it. Uh, real places, real numbers, real people who decided to stop waiting for somebody else to fix healthcare and just built something better themselves. If you don't have your ticket to Nashville yet, go grab it@RosettaFest.org this is where people in these stories will actually be in the room with you. Very open to sharing their methods and excited to have you copy it and run with it in your community. So let's get into. I want you to picture a family owned manufacturing company in Tuscaloosa, Alabama. They were founded in the 50s. They've got about 1200 employees in Alabama and California and they make aluminum, fiberglass and polyester screening. Uh, this is the sun shading fabric that uh, you might see in some lawn furniture. And it's a precision engineered product. You know, if you've gotten window screens in your house, there's a decent chance you're looking at their work and you've probably never even heard their name. But here's the detail that I love. Pfeiffer Inc. Is the last remaining made in the U.S. uh, manufacturer in their category. Last one. Everyone else chased cheap labor overseas, but this mid size organization in Alabama figured out something the most Fortune 500 companies still haven't figured out about healthcare. You know, back a couple decades ago, Warren Buffett described General Motors as a health and benefits company with an auto company attached. Uh, for the automakers. You know, healthcare was running between 1300 and $2000 per vehicle, more than steel. And rather than solve the root cause issues, many of them just punted the job overseas. So you saw millions of manufacturing jobs move out of the U.S. uh, in the first couple decades of, uh, this century. And healthcare cost was the primary reason on a lot of those spreadsheets. So the stakes here aren't just, hey, these are great benefits for a manufacturer. Getting healthcare right is a difference between keeping jobs in America or not. And the man at the center of this story is Russell DeBose. He's the VP of HR at Fife Rank. And what he did was just refuse to let treatment, you know, to treat healthcare like it was some force of nature he couldn't touch. Russell will tell you, you know, through the 90s and the 2000s, wage and benefit costs were relatively stable. They could manage it. But then after 2010, the line really bent. And by the time, uh, he took over the role in the mid 2010s, he looked at the glide path they were on and saw a future where benefits became unaffordable to the plan and the people on it. Uh, those were his words. Now, here's the move that makes this story different. Russell didn't see benefits, uh, as the problem and in isolation. He saw it as a supply chain problem. This is something any manufacturer is very familiar with. A, uh, plant like theirs lives and breathes lean. Six Sigma, continuous improvement. So he asked, why are we not, uh, applying that same rigor that we have on the factory floor to the single biggest line item after, uh, wages? And his takeaway was the components were there. They were just kind of jumbled and opaque. And he could see the spend, but he really just couldn't see the system. And then the turning point came in 2017. He was given a copy of the CEO's Guide to Restoring the American Dream. And the Rosen hotel story really hit him. That was a key part of that book. Um, and by the way, that's an episode in the series as well. And he said, quote, I realized that I had discovered our blueprint. This is a hotel company in Orlando that gave a manufacturer in Alabama the template. Uh, the next steps were to run a Kaizen event that's a manufacturing or it's a continuous improvement process that often is applied in manufacturing, but really could be applied anywhere. Put the company leaders, the broker, uh, the different suppliers, even a college professor in the room and map the costs the way you'd map a production deficit. And Russell's a manufacturing guy, so his instinct was, you can't improve what you can't measure. And his line on this was one of my favorites. He said, it's absurd that there's no quality scores or ratings or reviews for health plans. So we rate everything else we buy, you know, and yet the thing that's eating our payroll, we're not measuring. So when Health Rosetta came out with the plan grader, he graded his plan. Um, and I want to really underline so that everybody's listening. You know, this is an open tool any to anybody who Works with a Health Rosetta advisor. And many of the components I'm talking about are now open sourced through the Nautilus Health Institute. Um, back to the plan grader. You can grade your own plan. You know, as long as you have 45 minutes to answer some questions, uh, you can do it. You don't need permission from anybody. Uh, the first score that they got on their plan grade was a 37 out of 100. Now you know that sounds low until uh, you hear that most employers land between a 5 and a 17 when they start this process. So they were already well above average, you know, and they were paying attention to it but still had a long, long ways to go. And the breakdown told them um, exactly where to aim. Things like transparent open Networks scored a zero, major specialty and outlier patients scored a 12. Pharmacy was a 43. He said, like many others said, just reading these plan grader questions revealed areas to think about and improve. And then the assessment, it's about a 30 page report, um, was the roadmap. And that's really the philosophy in a nutshell, basically objective measure. I think of it as like a diagnostic score when you're, you know, in the healthcare system and they need a care plan or prescription to know where to go. And that basically that prescription, if you want to call it that, essentially became a punch list for them of what to tackle. And the first thing he did was talked with his benefits consultant, Ann Blair Gribbin, uh, at Cobb's Allen. And he kindly but directly let Ann Blair know that she needed to join the Health Rosetta program and learn this stuff so she could help him or he'd need to find another consultant. And she saw that opportunity not only serve her client, but also differentiate herself and position herself as a leader within her firm and within her community and state. And together, you know, they've run these Kaizen events with uh, critical intent. You know, how do we build equity and value by knocking uh, down the barriers to affordable quality, high, uh, quality healthcare. Um, out of that came a seven year roadmap. Things like advanced primary care, transparent data, transparent pharmacy, direct contracts with the best providers, nurse navigation, on site pharmacy, pharmacy, you know, essentially the works. And Starting in uh, 2019 they opened the Pfeiffer Cares Clinic where there was zero cost share for advanced primary care for every member, uh, of their plan. This is both the employees and their dependents. Within months the clinic was running at 88% of daily capacity and 58% of the eligible members were actively using it. So people really voted with their feet. And like a lot of places around the country, it's been hard to access primary. And it's debatable whether you could even call it primary care when it can take you weeks to get in. Uh, then Covid hit and this is where the model really proved itself out. In the early days, um, Pfeiffer was an essential business, so they never closed a single day. And the clinic became their frontline. You know, testing protocols, keeping people safe and working. And after the pandemic, they really hit the gas. You know, direct contracts a nurse to steer people to the best providers on site. Ah, physical therapy. A transparent pharmacy benefit manager. Um, and you know, here's the part that really excites me and gives me chills. Russell became very focused on generating dividends from their health plan, not just trying to make, you know, the increases just a little less bad. Um, and these became savings that just don't sit on the company balance sheet. They reinvest them in their people and into intention and purpose every year. So, you know, it started in 2019 with scholarships for employees, kids. These are hundreds of thousands of dollars. Uh, and more than 100 students went off to college, uh, with that support in 2020. That a summer enrichment program for a couple hundred kids so they don't lose ground over the summer. Um, and then they went on to eliminate pharmacy co pays at the on site pharmacy. Uh, more than 1700 patients have gotten that benefit, uh, continued bonus funding for childcare and aftercare for more than 250 working families. And business result all came underneath it. Five straight years of essentially flat healthcare spending. And that's after absorbing inflation and high cost, um, cancer claims, you know, because they certainly have to contend with what everybody else does. Um, retirement readiness climbed by more than 20 points. This means more money in the employees, uh, pockets. And the plan grader over this time steadily improved from 37 to 74. And they're definitely not done. Um, and then, you know, last couple years, Russell has gotten national attention. He was asked to testify before the House Energy, uh, and Commerce Committee on ERISA and on behalf of the national alliance of Healthcare Purchaser. Coalitions. Uh, he's the chair of the Alabama Employer Healthcare Consortium. So this is helping spread it to other employers in their region and their state. Um, and you know, this is where, you know, a benefits decision at a, you know, screen manufacturing plant in Tuscaloosa, Alabama turns into a really key voice, uh, in D.C. and really nationwide. Um, so here's where I want to land it. Um, if a 1200 person manufacturer in Alabama can do this, then the not big enough, uh, excuse stops being a reason to do this. It's just a story we tell ourselves. Russell treated the health plan like a line of business he was actually willing to manage. That's it. That's the secret. And he'll share that and other secrets as he's a co leader of the employer track at Rosetta Fest. So I, uh, hope you all get a chance to meet him. He's very inspiring. Well, that's the story for today. If it resonated. The new Relocalizing Health book is going deeper into that and Nashville goes deeper still. So Relocalizing health comes out July 29th right at Rosetta Fest. Every attendee will get it. You can pre order a copy now on Amazon. And if you want to be in the room when that happens, get your ticket@RosettaFest.org See you in Nashvill. Sam.
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