
People First! with Morag Barrett · 2026-05-11 · 34 min
What if the leadership model we’ve been celebrating for decades is the very thing holding teams back? In this episode of People First! , Morag Barrett sits down with Bill Flynn - leadership thinker, author of Further, Faster , and longtime student of the science of success - to challenge the myth of the heroic leader. Drawing on 30 years of research and lived experience, Bill shares: Why having one real relationship at work matters more than talent alone Why the future of leadership belongs to architects , not heroes This is a candid, grounded conversation about relationships, opportunity, and what actually creates impact over time. If you care about leadership that scales, cultures that last, and careers built on connection - this episode is for you.