Outspoken with Shana Cosgrove · 2026-05-04 · 28 min
Send us Fan Mail Still Here: Beyond the Uniform with Mary O’Brien, CEO of Mary O'Brien Strategies Host Shana Cosgrove interviews retired three-star General Mary O’Brien on Outspoken, discussing empowerment and innovation across organizations, illustrated by O’Brien’s “smart majors” story where junior officers combined existing government capabilities to solve complex problems. O’Brien recounts 38 years in uniform (34 active duty plus the Air Force Academy), why she applied to the Academy (interest in the space shuttle and college affordability), and how a STEM background in intelligence led into cybersecurity as technology, data, classified networks, and adversary threats evolved. She shares how she managed cyber safety at home, reflects on parenting during separations due to dual military careers, and advises defining your own “normal” rather than comparing to others. O’Brien describes an exciting retirement transition, recommends Ethan Mollick’s “Co-Intelligence,” and notes she has six grandchildren and supports the Cyber Guild’s workforce mission. Quotes [15:26] "I do.
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