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Ops Cast

Hosted by MarketingOps.com

Ops Cast, by MarketingOps.com, is a podcast for Marketing Operations Pros by Marketing Ops Pros. Hosted by Michael Hartmann, Mike Rizzo & Naomi Liu

259 episodes · publishes weekly · latest 2026-06-29 · ~50 min/episode

Rank

#5248

Substance

45.0

/ 100

Breakdown

Scored 2026-07
Updated monthly

RevOps rank

#98 of 110

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Across the index

#5248 of 6183

Substance

Top 85%

outscores 15% of the index

Why it scores where it does

Ops Cast ranks #5248 on The B2B Podcast Index with a substance score of 45.0 out of 100, scored across 1 recent episode. It scores highest on specificity & evidence and insight density. A handful of concrete details exist - the NVIDIA/Jensen Huang quote dated May 25th, the bot-detection logic with CEO titles and Gmail addresses, and a reference to The Anxious Generation - but the most intriguing data point (words spoken down 30% over 10 years) is immediately undermined by the speaker admitting he hasn't verified it. Most claims are vague and unsubstantiated.

The five-dimension breakdown

Averaged across 1 recently scored episode, with cited evidence.

Insight Density

9.0 / 20

The episode is dominated by philosophical musings about AI, parenting anxieties, and nostalgia tangents (mixtapes, TV Guide, microfiche) that offer no actionable takeaways for B2B operators. The only substantive nuggets are the bot-detection anecdote and Mike's Claude prompt setup, but these are brief islands in a sea of padding.

“So we're just kind of winging it.”

“I feel super human. I actually have probably five multi threads of, you know, things that I'm doing all at once throughout a day now, because I've got one agent doing one thing, one agent doing another”

Originality

9.0 / 20

The central claims - AI is making work harder, the hype cycle has peaked, technology always disrupts then creates new jobs - are among the most recycled takes in the current B2B media landscape. The Claude prompt configuration tip (rate confidence, tag certainty, disagree first) is the one genuinely practical and somewhat fresh idea surfaced in the episode.

“It has to rate its confidence before any claim. It has to tag it as certain likely or guessing. It has to kill certain phrases. It has to disagree with me first.”

“I think it's I think it's harder. I think it's a lot harder.”

Guest Caliber

9.0 / 20

There are no external guests; this is a casual roundtable among the show's own co-hosts. Mike Rizzo has practitioner credibility as a community founder with access to benchmark data, but the format is explicitly unstructured and the conversation rarely draws on that expertise in depth.

“we did this A.I. assessment benchmark sort of study. And it's coming together now. No surprise, we we had a whole bunch of bots fill out the forum”

“For everyone listening, we had no idea what we're going to talk about on this podcast.”

Specificity & Evidence

10.0 / 20

A handful of concrete details exist - the NVIDIA/Jensen Huang quote dated May 25th, the bot-detection logic with CEO titles and Gmail addresses, and a reference to The Anxious Generation - but the most intriguing data point (words spoken down 30% over 10 years) is immediately undermined by the speaker admitting he hasn't verified it. Most claims are vague and unsubstantiated.

“they all came in at right around the exact same time. Just a couple of minutes apart from each other. They all had CEO titles. All of those CEO titles, most of them, 99 percent of them were Gmail addresses.”

“the average number of words that we have spoken has dropped over 10 years, like by 30 percent, like daily... I've not gone back and looked at the full study or the ones that it references”

Conversational Craft

8.0 / 20

The hosts openly acknowledge they are winging it with no agenda, and the conversation bears that out - drifting into mixtapes, delivering newspapers, and parenting philosophy for extended stretches. There are no probing follow-up questions, no pushback on any claim, and no host discipline to redirect toward substance relevant to B2B operators.

“Should we start with like, is the world just gone crazy?”

“For everyone listening, we had no idea what we're going to talk about on this podcast. So we're just kind of winging it.”

Standout episodes

  • State of the MOPro - Mid 2026/with Naomi, Mike, and Michael

    2026-06-29

    45

Rank over time

First period on the Index - history builds from here.

Episodes

1 scored on substance · 60 tracked in total.

  • State of the MOPro - Mid 2026/with Naomi, Mike, and Michael

    2026-06-29 · 39 min

    45 / 100

Frequently asked

What is Ops Cast's substance score?
Ops Cast scores 45.0 out of 100 for substance and ranks #5248 on The B2B Podcast Index. That puts it ahead of 15% of the B2B podcasts we rank and #98 of 110 in RevOps. The score reflects insight density, originality, guest caliber, specificity and conversational craft across recent episodes - not downloads.
Is Ops Cast worth listening to?
Ops Cast is ranked on The B2B Podcast Index with a substance score of 45.0/100. See the five-dimension breakdown above to judge whether it fits what you're after.
Who hosts Ops Cast?
Ops Cast is hosted by MarketingOps.com.
How often does Ops Cast publish?
Ops Cast publishes weekly, has 259 episodes, released its most recent episode on 2026-06-29.
Which Ops Cast episode should I start with?
Our highest-scoring recent episode is "State of the MOPro - Mid 2026/with Naomi, Mike, and Michael" (45/100) - a good place to start.

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Guests who've appeared

Naomi LiuMike Rizzo

Topics this show covers

The themes that come up most across this show's episodes.

Revenue Operations (RevOps)AI adoption in marketing operationsPost-scarcity economyMarketing automation landscapeMarketingOps.comAI assessment benchmark studyMarTech disruptionCognitive vs. biomechanical technology displacementInstant gratification and algorithmic curationThe Anxious Generation book

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