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Natural Products Marketer Podcast

What Retailers Need to Know About Probiotics with Nikita Austen

Natural Products Marketer Podcast · 2026-04-22 · 1h 6m

Substance score

46 / 100

Five dimensions, 20 points each

Insight Density9 / 20
Originality7 / 20
Guest Caliber12 / 20
Specificity & Evidence11 / 20
Conversational Craft7 / 20

What our scoring noted

Our reviewer’s read on each dimension, with quotes from the episode.

Insight Density

9 / 20

A few genuinely useful retail-facing insights exist - overformulation buffers, enteric capsule delivery, and akkermansia prevalence data - but the episode is heavily padded with introductory-level content (what does 'probiotic' mean in Latin, yogurt analogies) and repetitive relationship-building platitudes that dilute the substantive moments.

if it says it's 100 billion CFUs, the company's probably putting in, like, you know, depending on the company, maybe 130, maybe 180, right? That they're overformulating because they understand that naturally there's gonna be die-off.
there's about 4% of acromancia present in the body... When we look at people that are considered overweight and or obese, and we look at the percentage of acromancia in the body, it's little to none.

Originality

7 / 20

The episode recycles well-established supplement industry talking points - refrigerate your probiotics, pre/pro/postbiotic definitions, manufacturing quality as differentiator - without offering contrarian or first-principles analysis; the akkermansia and postbiotic discussion is mildly forward-looking but still framed conventionally.

innovation, probably in any category... it's like, what's next? How do you continue to innovate? It feels like everything's already been done
the innovation comes in in many ways, but it's like what's what's newly being studied, what's newly being discovered? And postbiotics is something that we incorporated in our new line of probiotics

Guest Caliber

12 / 20

Nikita Austen is a legitimate 10-year industry practitioner with real innovation team experience and global training responsibilities - not a career podcaster - but her role is mid-senior education/training rather than a founding operator, category-defining researcher, or executive with cross-industry impact.

I have been with us for 10 years in December. I am currently the senior director of global training and education. So that means you heard it, global. Any country that we sell our products in, I get the pleasure of going there and educating
I was on the innovation team for the past four years. And so what we'll actually talk about, which is probiotics... I was part of the team that got to start that innovation

Specificity & Evidence

11 / 20

The episode delivers a credible number of concrete specifics - facility size, scientist headcount, brand founding dates, CFU overformulation ranges, recall count, and the 4% akkermansia prevalence figure - though several are brand marketing claims rather than third-party sourced data, and the akkermansia statistics lack citation.

our manufacturing facility is in Ogden, Utah... It's over 800,000 square feet... we have over 20 different scientists in our labs
our recall rate is extremely low, probably less than five since inception... Neoceutical started in 1993... Solar A 1973... Cal, which was you know one of the first brands ever in our industry, was 1932

Conversational Craft

7 / 20

The host asks directional questions that open useful topics but consistently validates rather than probes; there is no pushback on any claim, no attempt to surface contradictions or press for evidence, and several questions are clearly pre-arranged softballs that invite brand promotion rather than critical examination.

So tell me, tell me more what's the deal with shelf stable probiotics. I know it's something that everyone would like to be true, but you guys don't really offer that.
Yeah, and when you and I were talking about this earlier, I was like, what about when I go on vacation?

Conversation analysis

Computed from the transcript - who did the talking, and the verbal tics along the way.

Filler words

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Episode notes

Most people buy probiotics like they buy shampoo: grab the brand they recognize and hope for the best. But probiotics are living microorganisms, and the difference between “works” and “waste of money” often comes down to details most labels don’t make clear like refrigeration, shelf time, and whether a capsule can survive stomach acid long enough to open where it matters. We sit down with Nikita Austin, Senior Director of Global Training and Education at Better Being Co. (home to brands many natural products retailers already know), to unpack what real probiotic quality looks like in the supplement aisle. We get into why innovation is still happening in a category that feels “done,” how evolving microbiome science is expanding the conversation from probiotics and prebiotics to postbiotics, and why human clinical studies are becoming non-negotiable for credible claims. We also tackle the questions retailers hear every day: Should probiotics be refrigerated? When can shelf stable probiotics make sense? What’s the deal with spore-forming strains? Why is Akkermansia suddenly all over TikTok, and what can we responsibly say about weight management and metabolic health?

Full transcript

1h 6m

Transcribed and scored by The B2B Podcast Index.

1 00:00:00,160 - > 00:00:03,040 Nikita Austen: Yeah, think about any any store that you might go 2 00:00:03,040 - > 00:00:03,279 to. 3 00:00:03,279 - > 00:00:06,000 Whether it's your esthetician, you're like, why do I keep going 4 00:00:06,000 - > 00:00:06,240 there? 5 00:00:06,240 - > 00:00:09,119 Or maybe it's your local health food store, or maybe it's your 6 00:00:09,119 - > 00:00:10,320 place that you get your oil change. 7 00:00:10,320 - > 00:00:11,199 Is there a reason? 8 00:00:11,199 - > 00:00:12,000 Is there a connection? 9 00:00:12,000 - > 00:00:14,000 Is there something that you're like, that's why I always like 10 00:00:14,000 - > 00:00:14,400 to go there? 11 00:00:14,640 - > 00:00:17,039 Tina Maddock: Welcome to the Natural Products Marketer 12 00:00:17,039 - > 00:00:17,600 podcast. 13 00:00:17,600 - > 00:00:20,079 I'm your host, Tina Mattock. 14 00:00:20,079 - > 00:00:23,519 On this podcast, you'll hear from manufacturers, retail 15 00:00:23,519 - > 00:00:27,760 owners, and operators, and other business experts that will help 16 00:00:27,760 - > 00:00:30,800 you grow your business so you can serve more people and change 17 00:00:30,800 - > 00:00:31,519 more lives. 18 00:00:31,519 - > 00:00:35,039 All right, Nikita, I am so excited to have you here on the 19 00:00:35,039 - > 00:00:37,200 Natural Products Marketer podcast today. 20 00:00:37,200 - > 00:00:41,439 I know that you um were at Soho and that you gave a 21 00:00:41,439 - > 00:00:42,000 presentation. 22 00:00:42,000 - > 00:00:46,000 Tell us a little bit about who you are, what you do, and what 23 00:00:46,000 - > 00:00:47,200 you were doing at Soho. 24 00:00:47,759 - > 00:00:50,640 Nikita Austen: Okay, so my name, like you said, it's Nikita 25 00:00:50,640 - > 00:00:51,439 Austin. 26 00:00:51,439 - > 00:00:54,960 I have been with the Better Being Co, which is the name of 27 00:00:54,960 - > 00:00:55,520 our company. 28 00:00:55,520 - > 00:00:58,000 And if you're like, who is the Better Being Co? 29 00:00:58,000 - > 00:01:01,520 You might know us as Nutraceutical, or you might know 30 00:01:01,520 - > 00:01:05,840 us as Soleray, Cal, Heritage Store, Zhao, Honey Gardens. 31 00:01:05,840 - > 00:01:08,560 I could go on and on because we have so many different brands 32 00:01:08,560 - > 00:01:09,599 within our company. 33 00:01:09,599 - > 00:01:12,879 And that's why we sort of changed our name originally from 34 00:01:12,879 - > 00:01:17,519 Nutraceutical into the better being co because we were like, 35 00:01:17,519 - > 00:01:18,719 we have so many brands. 36 00:01:18,719 - > 00:01:22,239 Like, how do we embrace that and how do we represent that 37 00:01:22,239 - > 00:01:23,200 better in our name? 38 00:01:23,200 - > 00:01:26,079 And so it's like the better being company, right? 39 00:01:26,079 - > 00:01:27,680 With the better being brands. 40 00:01:27,680 - > 00:01:30,239 So if you've been in the industry for a while, you 41 00:01:30,239 - > 00:01:33,040 definitely have heard of Nutraceutical, you know us that 42 00:01:33,040 - > 00:01:33,280 way. 43 00:01:33,280 - > 00:01:35,599 But I've been with us for 10 years in December. 44 00:01:35,599 - > 00:01:39,040 I am currently the senior director of global training and 45 00:01:39,040 - > 00:01:39,840 education. 46 00:01:39,840 - > 00:01:42,400 So that means you heard it, global. 47 00:01:42,400 - > 00:01:45,760 Any country that we sell our products in, I get the pleasure 48 00:01:45,760 - > 00:01:49,840 of going there and educating anywhere from the staff, right? 49 00:01:49,840 - > 00:01:53,359 The staff in your stores to the consumers and the customers. 50 00:01:53,359 - > 00:01:56,879 Or if you are in Europe or other parts of the world, a lot 51 00:01:56,879 - > 00:01:58,959 of supplements are actually sold in pharmacies. 52 00:01:58,959 - > 00:02:01,840 So I train a lot of the pharmacists or even the doctors. 53 00:02:01,840 - > 00:02:04,959 So it's a little bit different, right, than it is kind of here 54 00:02:04,959 - > 00:02:06,239 in the United States. 55 00:02:06,239 - > 00:02:09,199 Um, I don't want I don't want to say more advanced, but in a 56 00:02:09,199 - > 00:02:11,919 way, it's like, you know, you go to your pharmacy for your 57 00:02:11,919 - > 00:02:12,639 natural products. 58 00:02:12,639 - > 00:02:14,080 That's kind of new normal there. 59 00:02:14,080 - > 00:02:18,080 So I have been with us for a long time doing education, but 60 00:02:18,080 - > 00:02:19,199 also doing innovation. 61 00:02:19,199 - > 00:02:22,560 And I was on the innovation team for the past four years. 62 00:02:22,560 - > 00:02:26,479 And so what we'll actually talk about, which is probiotics, 63 00:02:26,479 - > 00:02:29,759 because that's what I talked about at Soho, I was part of the 64 00:02:29,759 - > 00:02:32,319 team that got to start that innovation and kind of start 65 00:02:32,319 - > 00:02:32,800 that project. 66 00:02:32,800 - > 00:02:36,159 And so not only can I give you a little insight about it, but I 67 00:02:36,159 - > 00:02:39,120 can give you a lot of you know, the background of like why we 68 00:02:39,120 - > 00:02:42,400 created it and what inspired us to create this new collection. 69 00:02:42,400 - > 00:02:46,159 So yeah, so I was at Soho talking about that ultimately. 70 00:02:46,479 - > 00:02:48,960 Tina Maddock: Yeah, and if anyone wants to hear your full 71 00:02:48,960 - > 00:02:53,520 presentation, you can hop into that Senpa community and um 72 00:02:53,520 - > 00:02:57,280 there's access for members only, but you can have access to the 73 00:02:57,280 - > 00:03:00,800 full presentation, which I think is such a gift that especially 74 00:03:00,800 - > 00:03:04,240 if people wanted to come hear you talk, but they weren't able 75 00:03:04,240 - > 00:03:08,879 to for whatever reason, they can always grab it now and um take 76 00:03:08,879 - > 00:03:09,520 a look at it. 77 00:03:09,520 - > 00:03:12,400 But I think it's interesting that you're talking about like 78 00:03:12,400 - > 00:03:16,240 you guys were doing innovations with probiotics because it feels 79 00:03:16,240 - > 00:03:18,960 like probiotics have been around for a long time. 80 00:03:19,360 - > 00:03:19,840 Nikita Austen: They have. 81 00:03:20,080 - > 00:03:22,560 Tina Maddock: So, how do you innovate with probiotics? 82 00:03:22,879 - > 00:03:25,199 Nikita Austen: It's hard, and it's kind of hard in general 83 00:03:25,199 - > 00:03:29,360 because innovation, probably in any category, like I mean, we're 84 00:03:29,360 - > 00:03:32,319 in the nutritional, you know, wellness space, but I feel like 85 00:03:32,319 - > 00:03:33,919 in general, it's like, what's next? 86 00:03:33,919 - > 00:03:35,199 How do you continue to innovate? 87 00:03:35,199 - > 00:03:37,599 It feels like everything's already been done, you know. 88 00:03:37,599 - > 00:03:40,560 But the cool thing is that science evolves. 89 00:03:40,560 - > 00:03:44,000 So as science is evolving, there's more clinical studies, 90 00:03:44,000 - > 00:03:46,960 there are more ways that we look at something that's maybe 91 00:03:46,960 - > 00:03:50,240 always been there, and there's kind of things that have been 92 00:03:50,240 - > 00:03:52,560 there but hadn't really been studied and hadn't been talked 93 00:03:52,560 - > 00:03:52,719 about. 94 00:03:52,719 - > 00:03:56,319 An example would be like postbiotics, which is something 95 00:03:56,319 - > 00:03:57,199 I'll mention, right? 96 00:03:57,199 - > 00:04:00,800 We've talked a lot about probiotics, we've been hearing 97 00:04:00,800 - > 00:04:04,479 about prebiotics growing in the industry, and then we've kind of 98 00:04:04,479 - > 00:04:07,520 been hearing about postbiotics and you know, what does that 99 00:04:07,520 - > 00:04:07,919 really mean? 100 00:04:07,919 - > 00:04:12,719 And so the innovation comes in in many ways, but it's like 101 00:04:12,719 - > 00:04:16,160 what's what's newly being studied, what's newly being 102 00:04:16,160 - > 00:04:16,639 discovered? 103 00:04:16,639 - > 00:04:20,000 And postbiotics is something that we incorporated in our new 104 00:04:20,000 - > 00:04:23,759 line of probiotics because there's a lot more clinical data 105 00:04:23,759 - > 00:04:27,120 supporting the benefits of it, understanding even what it is. 106 00:04:27,120 - > 00:04:32,480 And so the innovation kind of comes with evolution of what's 107 00:04:32,480 - > 00:04:35,040 next, you know, and and what's being studied, and are there 108 00:04:35,040 - > 00:04:37,759 benefits and enough clinical benefits, right? 109 00:04:37,759 - > 00:04:40,800 Clinical studies specifically, that we can now bring that into 110 00:04:40,800 - > 00:04:42,399 our product and share that with our customers. 111 00:04:42,399 - > 00:04:45,680 So that's one of the pieces that's what I would say in the 112 00:04:45,680 - > 00:04:47,680 new line that's really innovative. 113 00:04:48,319 - > 00:04:51,759 Tina Maddock: I love that there are so many more clinical 114 00:04:51,759 - > 00:04:53,920 studies being done right now. 115 00:04:53,920 - > 00:04:58,560 When I first came into this industry, um, it felt like a lot 116 00:04:58,560 - > 00:05:02,240 of people felt like some of the natural products were the right 117 00:05:02,240 - > 00:05:02,879 things to do. 118 00:05:02,879 - > 00:05:06,639 And we had some wisdom that was given down to us over the 119 00:05:06,639 - > 00:05:07,120 years. 120 00:05:07,120 - > 00:05:11,519 But the science community was not really coming around this 121 00:05:11,519 - > 00:05:14,879 and getting on board with do these things work? 122 00:05:14,879 - > 00:05:18,319 And even when they were doing studies, I was not confident 123 00:05:18,319 - > 00:05:22,000 that it was a pure product, that it was anything that was 124 00:05:22,000 - > 00:05:24,000 actually being sold in these natural product stores. 125 00:05:24,000 - > 00:05:26,480 So they would come out and be like, multivitamins, there's 126 00:05:26,480 - > 00:05:27,439 nothing to it. 127 00:05:27,439 - > 00:05:30,000 Like, don't waste your money kind of thing. 128 00:05:30,000 - > 00:05:32,879 And now they're coming back around and they're doing really 129 00:05:32,879 - > 00:05:34,720 good clinical studies, and they're like, actually, 130 00:05:34,720 - > 00:05:36,560 multivitamins are very good for you. 131 00:05:36,560 - > 00:05:39,600 So I love that I'm seeing that in the science community. 132 00:05:39,600 - > 00:05:42,079 Are you guys seeing that more often now? 133 00:05:42,720 - > 00:05:45,040 Nikita Austen: I'll tell you, we are seeing it more, and I'll 134 00:05:45,040 - > 00:05:47,600 tell you kind of why we're seeing it more, too, from my 135 00:05:47,600 - > 00:05:48,079 opinion. 136 00:05:48,079 - > 00:05:51,439 Being someone that was on team innovation, and I'm one of the 137 00:05:51,439 - > 00:05:54,319 people that goes, okay, let me sit down with the raw material 138 00:05:54,319 - > 00:05:55,120 supplier, right? 139 00:05:55,120 - > 00:05:57,839 The person that's selling that turmeric or that's selling that 140 00:05:57,839 - > 00:05:58,959 probiotic strain. 141 00:05:58,959 - > 00:06:02,000 And when we sit down with them, like the first question is, do 142 00:06:02,000 - > 00:06:03,360 you have clinical studies? 143 00:06:03,360 - > 00:06:07,519 So the demand, it's a supply and demand issue, or not issue, 144 00:06:07,519 - > 00:06:09,439 but sort of where that's coming from. 145 00:06:09,439 - > 00:06:12,639 It's it's the innovation teams and different brands going, I 146 00:06:12,639 - > 00:06:15,600 want clinical data because that's what the customers are 147 00:06:15,600 - > 00:06:16,240 demanding. 148 00:06:16,240 - > 00:06:19,040 And in order for me to make claims on the front of my 149 00:06:19,040 - > 00:06:22,879 package, whether that's a weight loss claim or whether that's a 150 00:06:22,879 - > 00:06:26,720 you know a joint health claim, whatever it may be, I need to 151 00:06:26,720 - > 00:06:30,079 have not just clinical studies, but human clinical studies. 152 00:06:30,079 - > 00:06:31,360 Like that's what we require. 153 00:06:31,360 - > 00:06:34,319 So if you buy anything from Solar A or Cal or any of our 154 00:06:34,319 - > 00:06:37,600 brands, and we have a claim on the front of PAC, that's 155 00:06:37,600 - > 00:06:41,920 probably because we've looked at at minimum two human clinical 156 00:06:41,920 - > 00:06:45,199 studies, like double blind, placebo controlled, and not just 157 00:06:45,199 - > 00:06:47,920 the study, but is it done on a healthy population? 158 00:06:47,920 - > 00:06:51,040 Is there a significant amount of participants in that study? 159 00:06:51,040 - > 00:06:51,439 Right. 160 00:06:51,439 - > 00:06:56,000 We need a legitimate source of data in order to make that 161 00:06:56,000 - > 00:06:56,480 claim. 162 00:06:56,480 - > 00:06:59,360 Our legal department is really strict and for good reasons. 163 00:06:59,360 - > 00:07:02,079 We want to give the customer something that we can really 164 00:07:02,079 - > 00:07:05,680 promise or at least back that it's going to give them some 165 00:07:05,680 - > 00:07:06,560 good results. 166 00:07:06,560 - > 00:07:08,319 That's kind of the reason. 167 00:07:08,319 - > 00:07:11,680 So I think it's the suppliers going, oh my gosh, every time we 168 00:07:11,680 - > 00:07:14,800 meet with an innovative team, they're like, Where's your 169 00:07:14,800 - > 00:07:15,519 clinical studies? 170 00:07:15,519 - > 00:07:16,800 You don't have it, I don't want it. 171 00:07:16,800 - > 00:07:20,079 And so yeah, there's been a kind of a combination of that, 172 00:07:20,079 - > 00:07:22,720 really kind of growing more clinical studies. 173 00:07:22,720 - > 00:07:24,800 And you know, and a lot of people do trademark. 174 00:07:24,800 - > 00:07:27,120 They've trademarked clinical studies, and that's great. 175 00:07:27,120 - > 00:07:30,800 And you see that even with things like KSM66, you know, 176 00:07:30,800 - > 00:07:33,920 that name has gotten really big because they sell ashwagandha, 177 00:07:33,920 - > 00:07:36,319 and now customers are even looking for that. 178 00:07:36,319 - > 00:07:39,439 Yeah, so yeah, but it's it's kind of growing in its in its 179 00:07:39,439 - > 00:07:41,680 own way, and it's it's been really positive, I think, for 180 00:07:41,680 - > 00:07:42,319 our industry. 181 00:07:42,639 - > 00:07:46,800 Tina Maddock: It's funny, I feel like um part of the push, and I 182 00:07:46,800 - > 00:07:48,959 don't know, chicken or egg sometimes. 183 00:07:48,959 - > 00:07:52,800 You you wonder like who what really was the tipping point to 184 00:07:52,800 - > 00:07:54,079 cause us to talk about this a lot. 185 00:07:54,079 - > 00:07:58,160 But Shark Tank, Mark Cuban, he's always like, Where's your 186 00:07:58,160 - > 00:08:01,519 clinical study on any of the natural products? 187 00:08:02,000 - > 00:08:03,120 Nikita Austen: Two, it's so true. 188 00:08:03,120 - > 00:08:04,639 And he loves the natural products, right? 189 00:08:04,639 - > 00:08:07,839 I feel like he's kind of into like from the vegan cheeses to 190 00:08:07,839 - > 00:08:10,879 like you know the natural things in general, but it's true. 191 00:08:10,879 - > 00:08:14,800 I think it's a the consumer really wants to see that. 192 00:08:14,800 - > 00:08:18,879 And B, when you look at it from a side of medicine, you know, I 193 00:08:18,879 - > 00:08:21,360 studied chemistry and biology, and I remember being in college, 194 00:08:21,360 - > 00:08:24,480 and I'm, you know, say my group of 30 people in my class, I'm 195 00:08:24,480 - > 00:08:27,279 like one of two or three in this corner who are going the 196 00:08:27,279 - > 00:08:28,240 nutritional route, right? 197 00:08:28,240 - > 00:08:30,160 And the other ones are going the doctor route. 198 00:08:30,160 - > 00:08:33,840 Both needed, you know, Western and Eastern were there for a 199 00:08:33,840 - > 00:08:34,159 reason. 200 00:08:34,159 - > 00:08:37,200 But my point is that like we learn totally different things. 201 00:08:37,200 - > 00:08:41,279 And when you when you go into, you know, the other route of me, 202 00:08:41,279 - > 00:08:43,120 you don't get all that nutritional study, that 203 00:08:43,120 - > 00:08:43,919 nutritional science. 204 00:08:43,919 - > 00:08:47,039 And so when you go to your doctor and you're like, hey, can 205 00:08:47,039 - > 00:08:48,799 I take berberine for my blood sugar? 206 00:08:48,799 - > 00:08:49,120 Right. 207 00:08:49,120 - > 00:08:52,399 They're sometimes, you know, if they're kind of balanced out or 208 00:08:52,399 - > 00:08:54,399 they're more naturopathic, they'll be like, yes. 209 00:08:54,399 - > 00:08:56,320 Other ones are like, I don't know anything about it. 210 00:08:56,320 - > 00:08:57,759 Are there clinical studies? 211 00:08:57,759 - > 00:09:00,399 I I they don't want to promote it. 212 00:09:00,399 - > 00:09:03,759 And I understand why there's a lot of legality that comes with 213 00:09:03,759 - > 00:09:04,000 it. 214 00:09:04,000 - > 00:09:06,639 But if there is clinical studies, if there's data to back 215 00:09:06,639 - > 00:09:10,240 it, if there's, you know, an understanding of it, they feel 216 00:09:10,240 - > 00:09:13,519 more inclined and safer to recommend these things. 217 00:09:13,519 - > 00:09:17,200 So it's kind of a positive that I think spreads out wider than 218 00:09:17,200 - > 00:09:21,200 we realize outside of just the fact that there's a claim on the 219 00:09:21,200 - > 00:09:22,080 front of the package. 220 00:09:22,080 - > 00:09:22,559 Yeah. 221 00:09:22,559 - > 00:09:26,320 But also that then doctors can find that balance between an 222 00:09:26,320 - > 00:09:28,240 antibiotic and a probiotic, right? 223 00:09:28,240 - > 00:09:31,919 And really understand why both might be necessary in different 224 00:09:31,919 - > 00:09:32,559 ways. 225 00:09:33,279 - > 00:09:33,679 Tina Maddock: Yeah. 226 00:09:33,679 - > 00:09:38,240 So that makes me think about um the talk about shelf stable 227 00:09:38,240 - > 00:09:39,519 probiotics. 228 00:09:39,519 - > 00:09:44,159 I know you've mentioned um that whenever we've had 229 00:09:44,159 - > 00:09:46,559 conversations before, and probably it was also in your 230 00:09:46,559 - > 00:09:50,559 discussion at Soho, but Solar Ray really doesn't do that. 231 00:09:50,559 - > 00:09:54,559 So, or um Nutraceuticals or whatever company you used to 232 00:09:54,559 - > 00:09:55,039 talk about. 233 00:09:55,039 - > 00:09:59,279 So tell me, tell me more what's the deal with shelf stable 234 00:09:59,279 - > 00:09:59,840 probiotics. 235 00:09:59,840 - > 00:10:02,720 I know it's something that everyone would like to be true, 236 00:10:02,720 - > 00:10:04,720 but you guys don't really offer that. 237 00:10:05,759 - > 00:10:09,200 Nikita Austen: Yeah, so let me just take a breath, clarify here 238 00:10:09,200 - > 00:10:10,320 for anyone's wondering. 239 00:10:10,320 - > 00:10:12,799 Like, did she say they aren't or they are okay? 240 00:10:12,799 - > 00:10:16,000 I've it's not black and white, but I have some answers to add 241 00:10:16,000 - > 00:10:16,639 to that. 242 00:10:16,639 - > 00:10:20,159 When let's just like take one step backwards, okay. 243 00:10:20,159 - > 00:10:21,279 This is my my favorite thing. 244 00:10:21,279 - > 00:10:24,799 You're just as we're talking about shelf stable probiotics, 245 00:10:24,799 - > 00:10:25,039 okay. 246 00:10:25,039 - > 00:10:27,279 What does a probiotic mean? 247 00:10:27,279 - > 00:10:28,559 This is like my favorite question. 248 00:10:28,559 - > 00:10:30,320 I ask it every training I do. 249 00:10:30,320 - > 00:10:34,320 Can you, if you're listening right now, what does prob mean 250 00:10:34,320 - > 00:10:35,200 in Latin, right? 251 00:10:35,200 - > 00:10:37,360 And what does BIOS mean or biotic? 252 00:10:37,360 - > 00:10:39,039 It means for life. 253 00:10:39,039 - > 00:10:42,879 Okay, probiotic means for life. 254 00:10:42,879 - > 00:10:46,480 Okay, so when you think of it, this is for your life, it feeds 255 00:10:46,480 - > 00:10:47,279 your body, right? 256 00:10:47,279 - > 00:10:48,480 It's it's keeping you growing. 257 00:10:48,480 - > 00:10:50,000 Your body's made out of bacteria. 258 00:10:50,000 - > 00:10:51,200 This is really important. 259 00:10:51,200 - > 00:10:55,759 Now, when we buy probiotics, whether we're buying a kombucha 260 00:10:55,759 - > 00:10:59,759 or our yogurt at the store or probiotic that's in a supplement 261 00:10:59,759 - > 00:11:03,600 form, they're usually found in the refrigerator because these 262 00:11:03,600 - > 00:11:07,440 probiotics, these bacteria, they're like living 263 00:11:07,440 - > 00:11:08,799 microorganisms, right? 264 00:11:08,799 - > 00:11:10,320 They're they're living bacteria. 265 00:11:10,320 - > 00:11:13,759 And so when things are living like that, you want them to stay 266 00:11:13,759 - > 00:11:15,519 in a cool environment. 267 00:11:15,519 - > 00:11:18,720 You want them to stay dormant, meaning that you know they're 268 00:11:18,720 - > 00:11:21,200 not awake yet, they're just kind of asleep, they're not 269 00:11:21,200 - > 00:11:24,639 activated because of heat or moisture or anything, which when 270 00:11:24,639 - > 00:11:28,559 they start to get activated, can start to ultimately make 271 00:11:28,559 - > 00:11:32,000 them work or kill them off if they're not yet in your you know 272 00:11:32,000 - > 00:11:32,879 in your intestines. 273 00:11:32,879 - > 00:11:34,960 So usually you want them in a cold environment. 274 00:11:34,960 - > 00:11:37,039 I mean, like in I use that example with yogurt. 275 00:11:37,039 - > 00:11:39,519 Do you buy yogurt that's on the shelf or do you buy yogurt 276 00:11:39,519 - > 00:11:40,159 that's in the fridge? 277 00:11:40,159 - > 00:11:42,399 You buy it in the fridge because you want that good 278 00:11:42,399 - > 00:11:43,759 bacteria to stay alive. 279 00:11:43,759 - > 00:11:48,240 So, typically speaking, bacteria in the probiotic sense 280 00:11:48,240 - > 00:11:51,840 is found in the fridge because it's a live microorganism and 281 00:11:51,840 - > 00:11:54,480 you want it to stay cool and cold and dormant. 282 00:11:54,480 - > 00:11:58,399 Now, with that being said, you know, when I talk about 283 00:11:58,399 - > 00:12:01,919 probiotics in supplement format, yeah, I'm nine out of ten times 284 00:12:01,919 - > 00:12:05,440 will tell you go to the refrigerator, pull the probiotic 285 00:12:05,440 - > 00:12:07,279 from there, that's where it stays alive. 286 00:12:07,279 - > 00:12:11,120 Are there probiotics supplements that can be on the 287 00:12:11,120 - > 00:12:11,679 shelf? 288 00:12:11,679 - > 00:12:17,600 There are some, very few, that I would stand behind. 289 00:12:17,600 - > 00:12:20,240 The ones that I would say that can go on the shelf are 290 00:12:20,240 - > 00:12:23,519 something that we call spore-forming probiotics. 291 00:12:23,519 - > 00:12:26,080 As you might have heard this term before, it's a little bit 292 00:12:26,080 - > 00:12:30,000 different than just your regular probiotic, but there are 293 00:12:30,000 - > 00:12:34,639 spore-forming strains like a bacillus collagulin, for 294 00:12:34,639 - > 00:12:34,960 example. 295 00:12:34,960 - > 00:12:37,679 So if you've ever heard of bacillus collagulin, that is a 296 00:12:37,679 - > 00:12:40,399 strain that is typically a spore-forming. 297 00:12:40,399 - > 00:12:45,279 And when I say spore forming, these these spore-forming 298 00:12:45,279 - > 00:12:48,639 bacteria, they um have this naturally protect, they're 299 00:12:48,639 - > 00:12:51,759 naturally protected by this outer shell that ultimately 300 00:12:51,759 - > 00:12:54,320 allows them to survive better at room temperature. 301 00:12:54,320 - > 00:12:57,279 And they're not activated until there's moisture available. 302 00:12:57,279 - > 00:13:00,320 Okay, so without getting too complex here, and I can keep 303 00:13:00,320 - > 00:13:03,759 going down the rabbit hole, it's there are certain strains that 304 00:13:03,759 - > 00:13:08,480 are spore forming, very select amount, really, not this array 305 00:13:08,480 - > 00:13:11,840 where you're looking for a probiotic that has 24 different 306 00:13:11,840 - > 00:13:16,080 strains, 50 billion bacteria, just a specific strain, they can 307 00:13:16,080 - > 00:13:17,039 do better on the shelf. 308 00:13:17,039 - > 00:13:19,679 Okay, they're not live in the same way. 309 00:13:19,679 - > 00:13:22,639 They're spore forming, they get activated more when they're in 310 00:13:22,639 - > 00:13:23,360 the intestine. 311 00:13:23,360 - > 00:13:25,840 Yes, you can find a few things like that. 312 00:13:25,840 - > 00:13:30,240 But typically speaking, again, when you're going into a 313 00:13:30,240 - > 00:13:33,440 supplement department and you're looking for a probiotic and you 314 00:13:33,440 - > 00:13:36,799 want a nice array of probiotic strains, I'll name some of them. 315 00:13:36,799 - > 00:13:39,039 It sounds like I'm talking Greek because I am. 316 00:13:39,039 - > 00:13:42,480 Like, you know, Helveticus and L breve and B. 317 00:13:42,480 - > 00:13:45,919 Infantis and all these different strains that are so 318 00:13:45,919 - > 00:13:48,960 good for supporting the immune systems, balancing vaginal 319 00:13:48,960 - > 00:13:51,679 health, help helping with colon and regularity. 320 00:13:51,679 - > 00:13:55,039 These strains are not your spore-forming strains. 321 00:13:55,039 - > 00:13:59,039 These strains are not the ones that are gonna survive just 322 00:13:59,039 - > 00:14:01,360 naturally by themselves on the shelf. 323 00:14:01,360 - > 00:14:04,559 They need to be cold, they need to be refrigerated and kept 324 00:14:04,559 - > 00:14:05,039 dormant. 325 00:14:05,039 - > 00:14:08,000 And really, we only want them activated when they go into the 326 00:14:08,000 - > 00:14:08,799 intestine. 327 00:14:08,799 - > 00:14:09,440 Okay. 328 00:14:09,440 - > 00:14:13,200 So this is why I'm like, I'm not gonna say that there's no no 329 00:14:13,200 - > 00:14:15,200 probiotics that can be on the shelf. 330 00:14:15,200 - > 00:14:19,759 There are some, but we're talking a very small selection 331 00:14:19,759 - > 00:14:23,519 that I would stand behind and say, yes, this is going to 332 00:14:23,519 - > 00:14:26,559 survive the shelf, meaning it's gonna survive moisture, it's 333 00:14:26,559 - > 00:14:29,519 gonna survive heat, and it's just gonna naturally survive 334 00:14:29,519 - > 00:14:33,759 time in that environment and still give you the potency and 335 00:14:33,759 - > 00:14:36,159 the product that you you want when you buy it. 336 00:14:36,159 - > 00:14:42,480 So there are some, but I most of the time, like I said, nine 337 00:14:42,480 - > 00:14:47,120 9.5 times even, I'll go higher, out of 10, that I would tell you 338 00:14:47,120 - > 00:14:48,879 pull it from the fridge. 339 00:14:48,879 - > 00:14:52,879 Because even if you wanted it, even if you you told me, Nikita, 340 00:14:52,879 - > 00:14:53,840 I'm gonna go home. 341 00:14:53,840 - > 00:14:55,279 I'm not gonna put it in the fridge. 342 00:14:55,279 - > 00:14:58,000 It's gonna go next to my coffee maker because that's the only 343 00:14:58,000 - > 00:14:58,240 way. 344 00:14:58,240 - > 00:14:59,919 The first thing I do in the morning is coffee. 345 00:14:59,919 - > 00:15:01,120 I I remember to take it. 346 00:15:01,120 - > 00:15:04,399 I would be like, fine, if you want to put it by your coffee 347 00:15:04,399 - > 00:15:06,720 machine, okay, I can I can work with you. 348 00:15:06,720 - > 00:15:10,879 But at least buy it from the part of the store where it's 349 00:15:10,879 - > 00:15:12,320 been surviving the best. 350 00:15:12,320 - > 00:15:16,159 You know, let the timeline of the die-off, let's call it, 351 00:15:16,159 - > 00:15:18,799 start when you take it home, not while it was sitting there in 352 00:15:18,799 - > 00:15:21,120 the store and you don't know how long it was sitting there for. 353 00:15:21,120 - > 00:15:24,639 So I hope I didn't go too long here, but I just really want to 354 00:15:24,639 - > 00:15:28,159 emphasize that I really find it in this day right now in 355 00:15:28,159 - > 00:15:31,919 November, you know, of 2020, whatever year we're in, 25. 356 00:15:31,919 - > 00:15:32,960 Sorry. 357 00:15:32,960 - > 00:15:34,639 I'm like already prepping for 26. 358 00:15:34,639 - > 00:15:37,279 So I'm like starting to see 26 here. 359 00:15:37,279 - > 00:15:42,320 Um I just haven't seen a lot of scientific evidence that really 360 00:15:42,320 - > 00:15:45,120 shows that it would be equivalent to the fridge to the 361 00:15:45,120 - > 00:15:45,600 shelf. 362 00:15:45,919 - > 00:15:47,919 Tina Maddock: Yeah, and when you and I were talking about this 363 00:15:47,919 - > 00:15:51,519 earlier, I was like, what about when I go on vacation? 364 00:15:51,519 - > 00:15:57,039 Because I take probiotics and I do believe that it's helping 365 00:15:57,039 - > 00:15:57,200 me. 366 00:15:57,200 - > 00:16:00,320 But what if what about when I'm going on vacation because I am 367 00:16:00,320 - > 00:16:02,159 not taking a refrigerator with me? 368 00:16:02,559 - > 00:16:04,240 Nikita Austen: No, I don't expect you to. 369 00:16:04,240 - > 00:16:07,279 Um, and you know, you're lucky if you have one in your hotel. 370 00:16:07,279 - > 00:16:08,639 So maybe you have one in there. 371 00:16:08,639 - > 00:16:11,039 But that's let's just assume you don't have one. 372 00:16:11,039 - > 00:16:15,200 Um that again, I go back to the same thing where, okay, let's 373 00:16:15,200 - > 00:16:18,240 pull it from the fridge, the store, we come home, whether we 374 00:16:18,240 - > 00:16:20,559 put it in the fridge at that point or we leave it on the 375 00:16:20,559 - > 00:16:20,960 shelf. 376 00:16:20,960 - > 00:16:23,600 Okay, you want to go to Mexico for five days on vacation? 377 00:16:23,600 - > 00:16:24,240 Awesome. 378 00:16:24,240 - > 00:16:27,919 Take out your five pills for your your week, you know, to 379 00:16:27,919 - > 00:16:30,240 take put them in your pill container, whatever you want, 380 00:16:30,240 - > 00:16:31,120 take them on the trip. 381 00:16:31,120 - > 00:16:33,840 And then, you know, ideally if you can keep them in a cooler 382 00:16:33,840 - > 00:16:37,039 environment, meaning just maybe in the kitchen their area or you 383 00:16:37,039 - > 00:16:40,240 know, where wherever it is in your little hotel or Airbnb, 384 00:16:40,240 - > 00:16:41,360 yeah, that that's fine. 385 00:16:41,360 - > 00:16:44,799 I'm not worried about it in the five-day span. 386 00:16:44,799 - > 00:16:49,039 And a lot of probiotic companies, especially ones I can 387 00:16:49,039 - > 00:16:52,720 speak to that are sold like in a health food store, when they 388 00:16:52,720 - > 00:16:55,840 do make their products, they will overformulate them. 389 00:16:55,840 - > 00:17:00,639 So if it says it's 100 billion CFUs, the company's probably 390 00:17:00,639 - > 00:17:03,200 putting in, like, you know, depending on the company, maybe 391 00:17:03,200 - > 00:17:05,039 130, maybe 180, right? 392 00:17:05,039 - > 00:17:07,519 That they're overformulating because they understand that 393 00:17:07,519 - > 00:17:09,279 naturally there's gonna be die-off. 394 00:17:09,279 - > 00:17:12,720 So that is a good thing that helps you, you know. 395 00:17:12,720 - > 00:17:15,920 Again, if you want to take it out for five days, or if you're 396 00:17:15,920 - > 00:17:18,240 driving home, you live in Arizona like me, and you know, 397 00:17:18,240 - > 00:17:20,240 it's the middle of the summer and you're driving home, but you 398 00:17:20,240 - > 00:17:21,759 you gotta make a stop beforehand. 399 00:17:21,759 - > 00:17:23,759 Okay, it's hot in the car, I get it. 400 00:17:23,759 - > 00:17:24,880 It's not the end of the world. 401 00:17:24,880 - > 00:17:26,720 There's a lot that's accounted for. 402 00:17:26,720 - > 00:17:29,839 It's just different when it's sitting on the shelf at the 403 00:17:29,839 - > 00:17:32,160 store, and I don't know how long that's been there. 404 00:17:32,160 - > 00:17:34,319 You know, and then adding more days when you get home. 405 00:17:34,319 - > 00:17:36,000 That's why I'm like, let's just play it safe. 406 00:17:36,000 - > 00:17:37,759 Let's just take it from the fridge, bring it home, and then 407 00:17:37,759 - > 00:17:39,359 you take it out for five days, cool. 408 00:17:39,359 - > 00:17:42,160 The one, the other thing that I I suggest people, because I 409 00:17:42,160 - > 00:17:45,279 again I try to compromise and find this middle ground, is if 410 00:17:45,279 - > 00:17:46,960 you are the pill person, okay. 411 00:17:46,960 - > 00:17:49,039 I have my little like pill container, right? 412 00:17:49,039 - > 00:17:52,000 And I open it up, and then you know, seven days I put in here 413 00:17:52,000 - > 00:17:52,480 what I need. 414 00:17:52,480 - > 00:17:55,680 If you're that kind of person, then cool, why not keep it in 415 00:17:55,680 - > 00:17:56,079 the fridge? 416 00:17:56,079 - > 00:17:59,119 And then Sundays, you know your pill days, take it out on 417 00:17:59,119 - > 00:18:02,160 Sunday, put in your seven pills, and then put that back in the 418 00:18:02,160 - > 00:18:02,559 fridge. 419 00:18:02,559 - > 00:18:05,119 At least keep the rest of them in there, and then you can start 420 00:18:05,119 - > 00:18:06,240 the timeline from there. 421 00:18:06,240 - > 00:18:07,359 I'll be honest with you. 422 00:18:07,359 - > 00:18:10,400 Again, I do live in Arizona, so it's we're obviously a warmer 423 00:18:10,400 - > 00:18:14,160 state, but and even if you're in California or Florida, or even 424 00:18:14,160 - > 00:18:17,039 if you were and maybe you're in another state, but I keep a lot 425 00:18:17,039 - > 00:18:19,440 of my supplements in the refrigerator in general. 426 00:18:19,440 - > 00:18:22,400 So I kind of have a little section for them in there, and 427 00:18:22,400 - > 00:18:25,039 it that's why I just remember to take them all out from that 428 00:18:25,039 - > 00:18:25,279 point. 429 00:18:25,279 - > 00:18:28,000 So if you think you're like, oh, I might forget, I mean, if 430 00:18:28,000 - > 00:18:30,160 you have an omega, I'd put that in the fridge too. 431 00:18:30,160 - > 00:18:33,599 Let's keep it from oxidizing, if you know, not to say that it 432 00:18:33,599 - > 00:18:36,000 would, but let's just be preventative in case. 433 00:18:36,000 - > 00:18:36,559 Yeah. 434 00:18:37,359 - > 00:18:37,680 Tina Maddock: Yeah. 435 00:18:37,680 - > 00:18:43,759 So another thing that we talk a lot about is um um third-party 436 00:18:43,759 - > 00:18:44,400 testing. 437 00:18:44,400 - > 00:18:49,279 So tell I know that you guys have a very rigorous process 438 00:18:49,279 - > 00:18:50,079 that you go through. 439 00:18:50,079 - > 00:18:53,680 I'd love to hear all the nitty-gritty details around what 440 00:18:53,680 - > 00:18:57,039 that is and and maybe what's the process to make sure you 441 00:18:57,039 - > 00:19:00,319 have the best product for the consumers and that the consumers 442 00:19:00,319 - > 00:19:05,279 know how rigorous you've been so that if there's a price 443 00:19:05,279 - > 00:19:10,160 differentiation, or um, that they just will understand 444 00:19:10,160 - > 00:19:14,079 products that are better go through this kind of routine and 445 00:19:14,079 - > 00:19:18,559 products that might not be go through or maybe don't do any 446 00:19:18,559 - > 00:19:21,759 third-party testing or even internal testing. 447 00:19:21,759 - > 00:19:22,880 Yeah. 448 00:19:23,200 - > 00:19:26,240 Nikita Austen: And some of you that are listening right now, 449 00:19:26,240 - > 00:19:29,519 you may be like, oh, I've been to that manufacturing facility 450 00:19:29,519 - > 00:19:30,000 before. 451 00:19:30,000 - > 00:19:34,880 Because we as a company, as Better Being Co., right, no 452 00:19:34,880 - > 00:19:37,920 matter which brand you want to associate us with, we have our 453 00:19:37,920 - > 00:19:39,920 own manufacturing facility. 454 00:19:39,920 - > 00:19:42,799 It's over 800,000 square feet. 455 00:19:42,799 - > 00:19:44,640 It's humongous. 456 00:19:44,640 - > 00:19:45,039 Okay. 457 00:19:45,039 - > 00:19:47,359 I've walked around it with heels, but I don't suggest it. 458 00:19:47,359 - > 00:19:50,640 So if you do come around, okay, get out your hookahs or your 459 00:19:50,640 - > 00:19:53,839 awn or any of those sneakers you got, because it is a huge 460 00:19:53,839 - > 00:19:55,599 manufacturing facility. 461 00:19:55,599 - > 00:19:59,680 And I think that's actually the thing that I love to brag about 462 00:19:59,680 - > 00:20:01,200 when it comes to our company. 463 00:20:01,200 - > 00:20:05,200 And I think also what really makes us stand apart from even 464 00:20:05,200 - > 00:20:10,319 just our own competition, it's the fact that we manufacture and 465 00:20:10,319 - > 00:20:11,920 produce our own products. 466 00:20:11,920 - > 00:20:14,559 And I'll explain what the benefit of that is. 467 00:20:14,559 - > 00:20:17,119 Because typically speaking, I think there's two things you 468 00:20:17,119 - > 00:20:20,880 usually see: a brand that either manufactures their own products 469 00:20:20,880 - > 00:20:23,440 or a brand that maybe distributes products. 470 00:20:23,440 - > 00:20:25,920 Okay, so let's kind of go through that. 471 00:20:25,920 - > 00:20:29,279 So if I manufacture, for example, our manufacturing 472 00:20:29,279 - > 00:20:34,000 facility is in Ogden, Utah, and uh we do a lot of facility 473 00:20:34,000 - > 00:20:36,079 tours, especially for our retailers. 474 00:20:36,079 - > 00:20:39,279 So again, if you haven't and you want a tour, just reach out 475 00:20:39,279 - > 00:20:42,160 to your rep and we'd love to take you around and show you 476 00:20:42,160 - > 00:20:42,880 kind of what we do. 477 00:20:42,880 - > 00:20:44,079 We're very proud of it. 478 00:20:44,079 - > 00:20:48,960 But in that 800,000 square feet, we do every single step of 479 00:20:48,960 - > 00:20:49,680 the process. 480 00:20:49,680 - > 00:20:51,359 So let's just simplify this. 481 00:20:51,359 - > 00:20:54,400 Let's say step one is buying that raw material. 482 00:20:54,400 - > 00:20:57,680 So we're making a joint product, and I've got a 483 00:20:57,680 - > 00:21:01,359 turmeric, and I've got a calcium and a magnesium, etc., right? 484 00:21:01,359 - > 00:21:03,279 And I take those raw materials. 485 00:21:03,279 - > 00:21:06,079 Let's say I buy the turmeric from the raw material supplier. 486 00:21:06,079 - > 00:21:09,680 When I buy that batch of that turmeric, the raw material 487 00:21:09,680 - > 00:21:11,440 supplier gives me this piece of paper. 488 00:21:11,440 - > 00:21:14,640 It's called a certificate of analysis, right? 489 00:21:14,640 - > 00:21:17,519 It's the analysis of that raw material. 490 00:21:17,519 - > 00:21:20,400 It's telling me that they've tested this raw material and 491 00:21:20,400 - > 00:21:23,599 they are telling me it's turmeric, that, you know, of 492 00:21:23,599 - > 00:21:27,519 that turmeric, 95% of that's concentrated, that's curcumin, 493 00:21:27,519 - > 00:21:29,279 the active ingredient we want, right? 494 00:21:29,279 - > 00:21:32,079 Um, it's been tested for heavy metals, uh, I think it's like 495 00:21:32,079 - > 00:21:33,599 parts per billion, for example. 496 00:21:33,599 - > 00:21:36,400 It's been tested for gluten, it's been tested for genetically 497 00:21:36,400 - > 00:21:38,319 modified ingredients and so on and so forth. 498 00:21:38,319 - > 00:21:40,240 Quite extensive paperwork, right? 499 00:21:40,240 - > 00:21:42,720 We read that paper and we go, awesome. 500 00:21:42,720 - > 00:21:43,599 Thank you so much. 501 00:21:43,599 - > 00:21:46,000 You know, this third party who you did this test. 502 00:21:46,000 - > 00:21:49,200 We're gonna save this paper, put it aside, but we're gonna 503 00:21:49,200 - > 00:21:50,799 throw it through our lab as well. 504 00:21:50,799 - > 00:21:54,799 And we have over 20 different scientists in our labs, okay, 505 00:21:54,799 - > 00:21:58,240 that are either doctors at this point, they are biologists, 506 00:21:58,240 - > 00:21:59,440 chemists, you name it, right? 507 00:21:59,440 - > 00:22:04,079 We've got An array of chemists and scientists in our laboratory 508 00:22:04,079 - > 00:22:08,160 who work with beautiful machinery or instruments, as we 509 00:22:08,160 - > 00:22:11,759 would call them, that they're testing to look for these 510 00:22:11,759 - > 00:22:13,920 things, whether that's heavy metals and so forth. 511 00:22:13,920 - > 00:22:16,079 They'll go through that testing process. 512 00:22:16,079 - > 00:22:20,640 If anything in that testing process does not line up with 513 00:22:20,640 - > 00:22:24,000 that certificate of analysis, meaning, wait a minute, it does 514 00:22:24,000 - > 00:22:28,319 actually show heavy metals at a much higher number than not just 515 00:22:28,319 - > 00:22:31,839 the ASTED, but maybe what we even allow as an industry. 516 00:22:31,839 - > 00:22:35,200 And not just the industry, but we as better being allow. 517 00:22:35,200 - > 00:22:38,640 So there's industry standards and then there's our standards. 518 00:22:38,640 - > 00:22:41,519 We actually go above the industry standards because as I 519 00:22:41,519 - > 00:22:43,680 mentioned in the beginning, we're a global company. 520 00:22:43,680 - > 00:22:46,880 So when you think of like countries that are known as like 521 00:22:46,880 - > 00:22:48,960 super clean, like a Norway, right? 522 00:22:48,960 - > 00:22:51,839 Or Sweden who wouldn't dare bring in anything that isn't top 523 00:22:51,839 - > 00:22:54,480 quality, we sell those same products in Norway. 524 00:22:54,480 - > 00:22:57,519 We we abide by by their laws and their rules as well. 525 00:22:57,519 - > 00:23:00,960 So we're very, very clean and we have larger standards than 526 00:23:00,960 - > 00:23:02,480 just the United States standards. 527 00:23:02,480 - > 00:23:05,519 If we do that test, like I said, and it doesn't meet the 528 00:23:05,519 - > 00:23:08,480 quality standards, we reject that raw material. 529 00:23:08,480 - > 00:23:10,480 We'll say, hey, you know what? 530 00:23:10,480 - > 00:23:12,160 Nope, we're not gonna buy this. 531 00:23:12,160 - > 00:23:13,359 We send it back to them. 532 00:23:13,359 - > 00:23:16,000 Now, when you send it back to the raw material supplier, what 533 00:23:16,000 - > 00:23:17,039 do you think they do? 534 00:23:17,039 - > 00:23:20,559 They sell it to somebody else, right? 535 00:23:20,559 - > 00:23:21,759 They're not gonna throw it away. 536 00:23:21,759 - > 00:23:24,079 That's their raw material, that's expensive, that's their 537 00:23:24,079 - > 00:23:24,799 their process. 538 00:23:24,799 - > 00:23:26,319 They're gonna sell it to somebody else. 539 00:23:26,319 - > 00:23:29,440 Maybe another company that doesn't manufacture their own 540 00:23:29,440 - > 00:23:32,640 products, maybe a company that distributes their own products. 541 00:23:32,640 - > 00:23:35,759 So when they distribute it, they're getting that, you know, 542 00:23:35,759 - > 00:23:39,039 probably even maybe capsule in capsules at that point, 543 00:23:39,039 - > 00:23:41,039 receiving it, going, cool, you tested it. 544 00:23:41,039 - > 00:23:43,599 Thanks for telling us, we'll put our label on it and we'll 545 00:23:43,599 - > 00:23:44,319 send it out. 546 00:23:44,319 - > 00:23:47,279 And I'm not saying that because you distribute your products, 547 00:23:47,279 - > 00:23:48,319 that that's bad. 548 00:23:48,319 - > 00:23:51,200 I'm saying when you do manufacture your product, that's 549 00:23:51,200 - > 00:23:51,759 really good. 550 00:23:51,759 - > 00:23:56,319 You have full control at that point to test the raw materials 551 00:23:56,319 - > 00:23:58,319 and make sure that it really is what it is. 552 00:23:58,319 - > 00:24:02,880 Now, once we buy that material and we test it and it's good and 553 00:24:02,880 - > 00:24:06,480 it's ready to go, there's still many, many steps along the way 554 00:24:06,480 - > 00:24:09,519 that we don't just test the you know the beginning product. 555 00:24:09,519 - > 00:24:11,680 We want to make sure that it's put in the right delivery 556 00:24:11,680 - > 00:24:11,920 format. 557 00:24:11,920 - > 00:24:14,640 So if it's in a capsule, it's got to dissolve at the right 558 00:24:14,640 - > 00:24:14,799 time. 559 00:24:14,799 - > 00:24:19,039 If it's in a tablet or a powder or whatever it is, then package 560 00:24:19,039 - > 00:24:19,920 it, label it. 561 00:24:19,920 - > 00:24:21,920 We do the finished product testing. 562 00:24:21,920 - > 00:24:23,279 So hold on, I just said that. 563 00:24:23,279 - > 00:24:26,799 Yep, not just in the beginning, in the very, very beginning, 564 00:24:26,799 - > 00:24:29,200 but once everything's come together, we do a finished 565 00:24:29,200 - > 00:24:30,880 product test as well. 566 00:24:30,880 - > 00:24:35,200 So what's is anything changed along the way of adding these 567 00:24:35,200 - > 00:24:37,759 ingredients or disintegration or potencies? 568 00:24:37,759 - > 00:24:40,400 Anything's changed, we do finished product testing and 569 00:24:40,400 - > 00:24:41,440 then we send it out to you. 570 00:24:41,440 - > 00:24:46,480 So we have full ownership over our raw materials, over our 571 00:24:46,480 - > 00:24:49,440 products, over every single piece of it from a capsule 572 00:24:49,440 - > 00:24:52,400 dissolving to it being a proper and clean ingredient. 573 00:24:52,400 - > 00:24:56,720 Manufacturing your products can guarantee the quality. 574 00:24:56,720 - > 00:24:59,440 And that's why it's so important for me to be like, 575 00:24:59,440 - > 00:25:03,200 that's my my biggest flex if I can sound like a young 576 00:25:03,200 - > 00:25:04,079 millennial, okay? 577 00:25:04,079 - > 00:25:06,640 That's my biggest flex to be like, yeah, we make our own 578 00:25:06,640 - > 00:25:09,519 stuff and we test it rigorously, like over 20 different 579 00:25:09,519 - > 00:25:12,720 scientists who some of them have been here for 35 years. 580 00:25:12,720 - > 00:25:15,359 You know, like these people know this machinery, they know 581 00:25:15,359 - > 00:25:17,839 this raw material, they do it quickly, they know what to look 582 00:25:17,839 - > 00:25:18,720 for at this point. 583 00:25:18,720 - > 00:25:22,400 So very skilled scientists that can really assure quality. 584 00:25:22,400 - > 00:25:26,079 And to me, is that not like the number one thing in our 585 00:25:26,079 - > 00:25:26,720 industry? 586 00:25:26,720 - > 00:25:28,880 Is having high quality supplements? 587 00:25:28,880 - > 00:25:32,319 Isn't that the thing that we feel like as a nutraceutical 588 00:25:32,319 - > 00:25:35,200 industry that we get pushed against from other people? 589 00:25:35,200 - > 00:25:38,240 Well, oh, I don't know, they're not, it's not tested, it's not 590 00:25:38,240 - > 00:25:39,440 clean, does it dissolve? 591 00:25:39,440 - > 00:25:41,680 Does it end up in, you know, your toilet? 592 00:25:41,680 - > 00:25:43,200 And are you absorbing this? 593 00:25:43,200 - > 00:25:44,880 I mean, we get a lot of pushback, right? 594 00:25:44,880 - > 00:25:47,599 They don't want the natural industry to thrive more than the 595 00:25:47,599 - > 00:25:49,279 pharmaceutical industry. 596 00:25:49,279 - > 00:25:50,960 So we always get back there. 597 00:25:50,960 - > 00:25:54,480 So to me, what's more important than assuring the quality, the 598 00:25:54,480 - > 00:25:58,079 potency, the identity, and every step of that way, that's what 599 00:25:58,079 - > 00:25:58,720 we do. 600 00:25:59,359 - > 00:26:03,279 Tina Maddock: Yeah, and I I think it's one of the things 601 00:26:03,279 - > 00:26:07,279 that um retailers get excited about talking about to the 602 00:26:07,279 - > 00:26:08,160 consumer. 603 00:26:08,160 - > 00:26:13,359 They're kind of the gatekeeper because um not everyone does the 604 00:26:13,359 - > 00:26:15,359 kind of testing you're talking about. 605 00:26:15,359 - > 00:26:20,160 And the retailers are the ones that are sort of gatekeeping 606 00:26:20,160 - > 00:26:22,720 this about whether or not you're getting a clean product or 607 00:26:22,720 - > 00:26:26,960 what's on the labels actually in the jar, or um, that it is in 608 00:26:26,960 - > 00:26:30,960 the right delivery method for people to consume. 609 00:26:30,960 - > 00:26:34,799 So how let's just put you in the retailer seat. 610 00:26:34,799 - > 00:26:38,559 If you're a retailer, what are the questions that you're asking 611 00:26:38,559 - > 00:26:41,359 manufacturers or distributors? 612 00:26:41,359 - > 00:26:46,480 Um, what would you want to know from them before you bring that 613 00:26:46,480 - > 00:26:48,319 item into your shop? 614 00:26:49,279 - > 00:26:51,759 Nikita Austen: I mean, I think that's kind of the perfect 615 00:26:51,759 - > 00:26:54,799 leading question into like what what I just talked about 616 00:26:54,799 - > 00:26:55,839 ultimately, right? 617 00:26:55,839 - > 00:26:58,960 And you said that when you when you go into a health food 618 00:26:58,960 - > 00:27:01,599 store, whatever health food store that may be, right? 619 00:27:01,599 - > 00:27:04,799 I mean, back back in the day, or at least where I used to 620 00:27:04,799 - > 00:27:07,279 live, like I used to live in Fort Lauderdale as well, where I 621 00:27:07,279 - > 00:27:09,440 was, the only health food store I really had was was Whole 622 00:27:09,440 - > 00:27:09,920 Foods Market. 623 00:27:09,920 - > 00:27:12,640 And I used to work for Whole Foods Market actually, come 13 624 00:27:12,640 - > 00:27:13,680 years ago. 625 00:27:13,680 - > 00:27:16,400 And I'll just give you that example, right? 626 00:27:16,400 - > 00:27:18,799 You go into Whole Foods Market, they have their own quality 627 00:27:18,799 - > 00:27:19,279 standards, right? 628 00:27:19,279 - > 00:27:23,759 Natural Grocers, Sprouse, all of our great stores, big, small, 629 00:27:23,759 - > 00:27:27,440 and in between, we have quality standards that the customer 630 00:27:27,440 - > 00:27:28,720 knows when they walk in. 631 00:27:28,720 - > 00:27:31,359 I'm not gonna find anything that has an artificial color in 632 00:27:31,359 - > 00:27:34,640 it, an artificial flavor or sweetener or hormone or 633 00:27:34,640 - > 00:27:35,680 preservative, et cetera. 634 00:27:35,680 - > 00:27:39,599 The customer has the trust already with the store, knowing 635 00:27:39,599 - > 00:27:41,279 that they're there to get the best quality. 636 00:27:41,279 - > 00:27:44,160 So you as a store need to give that to them, right? 637 00:27:44,160 - > 00:27:47,759 You're the one vetting anything from the fro free fruit uh 638 00:27:47,759 - > 00:27:51,279 frozen food, excuse me, to the supplement on your shelf. 639 00:27:51,279 - > 00:27:56,319 So having that trust as a retailer with the partners that 640 00:27:56,319 - > 00:27:57,680 you're bringing in is vital. 641 00:27:57,680 - > 00:28:02,640 Knowing that at Better Being or Solar A, if you want to, that 642 00:28:02,640 - > 00:28:06,880 we manufacture, we test every single product we do. 643 00:28:06,880 - > 00:28:10,720 And our recall rate is extremely low, probably less 644 00:28:10,720 - > 00:28:12,480 than five since inception. 645 00:28:12,480 - > 00:28:13,039 Okay. 646 00:28:13,039 - > 00:28:18,000 As the company prior known as Neoceutical started in 1993. 647 00:28:18,000 - > 00:28:21,119 So that's how long that the NeoSeuital's been around. 648 00:28:21,119 - > 00:28:23,279 But our brands have been around for even longer. 649 00:28:23,279 - > 00:28:24,880 We kind of acquired them along the way. 650 00:28:24,880 - > 00:28:30,240 So like Solar Ace 1973 or Cal, which was you know one of the 651 00:28:30,240 - > 00:28:32,960 first brands ever in our industry, was 1932. 652 00:28:32,960 - > 00:28:33,279 Wow. 653 00:28:33,279 - > 00:28:37,039 So our brands have a heritage store, the Rosewater 1969. 654 00:28:37,039 - > 00:28:40,319 We have a lot of longevity in the industry, but since 655 00:28:40,319 - > 00:28:43,039 inception and creating our manufacturing facility, we've 656 00:28:43,039 - > 00:28:47,599 had very, very small, if any, kind of recalls because of that 657 00:28:47,599 - > 00:28:50,160 intense uh testing that we do. 658 00:28:50,160 - > 00:28:54,319 So that my point is if I'm a retailer, what am I looking for? 659 00:28:54,319 - > 00:28:57,119 What kind of questions am I asking when I'm bringing this 660 00:28:57,119 - > 00:28:57,279 in? 661 00:28:57,279 - > 00:28:59,519 Is you know, how do I build that trust with you? 662 00:28:59,519 - > 00:29:02,079 How do I guarantee that what you give me, no matter which 663 00:29:02,079 - > 00:29:06,319 brand I buy or which product I buy, that it's going to be that 664 00:29:06,319 - > 00:29:06,960 quality? 665 00:29:06,960 - > 00:29:07,680 Right? 666 00:29:07,680 - > 00:29:09,920 I don't want there to be a oops in the system. 667 00:29:09,920 - > 00:29:12,799 I want to make sure that I can deliver quality every time. 668 00:29:12,799 - > 00:29:17,839 That's 100% what we can guarantee and what we stand by 669 00:29:17,839 - > 00:29:18,799 is quality. 670 00:29:18,799 - > 00:29:21,200 We also have great customer service and everything else in 671 00:29:21,200 - > 00:29:23,519 between and a great sales team and et cetera. 672 00:29:23,519 - > 00:29:26,640 But coming down to the core of the product itself, why are you 673 00:29:26,640 - > 00:29:27,519 going to bring that in? 674 00:29:27,519 - > 00:29:29,519 It's knowing that we test every product. 675 00:29:29,519 - > 00:29:31,680 It's knowing that we manufacture, it's knowing that 676 00:29:31,680 - > 00:29:33,359 we label it, it's knowing that we stand by it. 677 00:29:33,359 - > 00:29:36,240 I think that's that's the whole point, right? 678 00:29:36,240 - > 00:29:36,960 Of that. 679 00:29:36,960 - > 00:29:40,799 And so there's not that many brands today that still do that 680 00:29:40,799 - > 00:29:45,440 type of it, you know, or ever even maybe did that type of test 681 00:29:45,440 - > 00:29:47,839 and and to assure that type of quality. 682 00:29:47,839 - > 00:29:50,319 And I think that's why we've been around for so long and have 683 00:29:50,319 - > 00:29:52,559 been number one in the industry in a lot of different 684 00:29:52,559 - > 00:29:56,640 categories a lot of different times, is is is because of that. 685 00:29:56,640 - > 00:29:59,519 And when I when I educate even our retailer staff, I tell them, 686 00:29:59,519 - > 00:30:02,480 I go, whether you're bringing in the Solar Ay liposoma 687 00:30:02,480 - > 00:30:05,200 multivitamin, the CalMag glycinate, the honey garden 688 00:30:05,200 - > 00:30:08,000 elderberry syrup, or the Xan lozenges, no matter which one 689 00:30:08,000 - > 00:30:11,359 you're bringing in, there's no cheaper product. 690 00:30:11,359 - > 00:30:14,720 There's no product that's like didn't get the same testing or 691 00:30:14,720 - > 00:30:16,640 gets the cheaper raw material. 692 00:30:16,640 - > 00:30:19,599 We have quality standards for the raw materials we bring in. 693 00:30:19,599 - > 00:30:21,519 If it doesn't meet it, it's rejected. 694 00:30:21,519 - > 00:30:22,960 If it meets it, then awesome. 695 00:30:22,960 - > 00:30:25,759 Then we'll distribute it where it is best fit. 696 00:30:25,759 - > 00:30:28,000 But if it doesn't meet it, it's not even coming in our 697 00:30:28,000 - > 00:30:28,799 warehouse. 698 00:30:28,799 - > 00:30:32,640 So, you know, quality and trust is kind of everything. 699 00:30:32,640 - > 00:30:35,279 And that's why you you build brand trust, you know, and 700 00:30:35,279 - > 00:30:38,960 that's why you, you know, shop at even different stores because 701 00:30:38,960 - > 00:30:41,519 you're like, well, they, you know, this clothing store that I 702 00:30:41,519 - > 00:30:44,720 love produces quality clothes every time it's organically made 703 00:30:44,720 - > 00:30:45,359 or it's whatever. 704 00:30:45,359 - > 00:30:47,519 It's the same thing here with supplements, it's building that 705 00:30:47,519 - > 00:30:50,559 trust, knowing what brands to bring in that really represent 706 00:30:50,559 - > 00:30:53,519 you as a storefront as well, you know. 707 00:30:55,359 - > 00:30:58,720 Tina Maddock: Yeah, and so one of the things that you just 708 00:30:58,720 - > 00:31:01,440 mentioned is that you guys might have different brands. 709 00:31:01,440 - > 00:31:05,359 These things might have even different price points, and 710 00:31:05,359 - > 00:31:09,680 there is a different market depending on who your audience 711 00:31:09,680 - > 00:31:11,200 is made up of, right? 712 00:31:11,200 - > 00:31:14,480 They're looking for the price points that are important to 713 00:31:14,480 - > 00:31:15,680 them, that kind of thing. 714 00:31:15,680 - > 00:31:19,759 And it's great that there's no differentiation in this is what 715 00:31:19,759 - > 00:31:21,039 it says it's gonna be. 716 00:31:21,039 - > 00:31:24,960 We've tested for heavy metals and whatever else the standards 717 00:31:24,960 - > 00:31:25,200 are. 718 00:31:25,200 - > 00:31:26,640 I think that's important. 719 00:31:26,640 - > 00:31:30,240 And one of the things, since we're kind of on probiotics 720 00:31:30,240 - > 00:31:35,039 right now, I think probiotics is one of those um products that 721 00:31:35,039 - > 00:31:36,799 almost everyone could use. 722 00:31:36,799 - > 00:31:40,319 No matter what's happening in your life, almost every person, 723 00:31:40,319 - > 00:31:43,279 this would be a great thing to add into your regular health and 724 00:31:43,279 - > 00:31:44,400 wellness routine. 725 00:31:44,400 - > 00:31:48,960 But I'm curious that when people come into stores, if 726 00:31:48,960 - > 00:31:51,839 we're keeping our retailer hat on, if people are coming into 727 00:31:51,839 - > 00:31:55,920 the stores, um what is it that prompts you to go? 728 00:31:55,920 - > 00:31:59,440 Oh, wait, probiotic, this would make sense for you in your life 729 00:31:59,440 - > 00:32:00,000 right now. 730 00:32:00,000 - > 00:32:03,920 And this is a little bit of let's help the retailers see 731 00:32:03,920 - > 00:32:08,000 opportunities to give people things that would that they 732 00:32:08,000 - > 00:32:12,640 really need and probably want the effects of if we can put 733 00:32:12,640 - > 00:32:14,000 that hat on for a second. 734 00:32:14,319 - > 00:32:14,880 Nikita Austen: Okay, cool. 735 00:32:14,880 - > 00:32:17,359 So basically, customer comes in. 736 00:32:17,359 - > 00:32:21,519 What would I open up in conversation or what indicator 737 00:32:21,519 - > 00:32:24,400 would I see or know that I would lead them to probiotics? 738 00:32:24,400 - > 00:32:25,039 Right. 739 00:32:25,039 - > 00:32:26,319 Okay, okay. 740 00:32:26,319 - > 00:32:31,359 Um, and I always have like little fun conversation starters 741 00:32:31,359 - > 00:32:34,160 for different categories sometimes of like, you know, 742 00:32:34,160 - > 00:32:35,359 what do you see that you know? 743 00:32:35,359 - > 00:32:38,079 Like, I'll just give you one little side one for a second. 744 00:32:38,079 - > 00:32:42,160 If you see any customer that has like a coffee, a tea, you 745 00:32:42,160 - > 00:32:45,200 know, or something like a black tea or a coffee in their hand, I 746 00:32:45,200 - > 00:32:47,359 always bring up the magnesium conversation. 747 00:32:47,359 - > 00:32:49,359 And that leads me right into magnesium. 748 00:32:49,359 - > 00:32:52,160 And just I know I'm going side note here, but this is just a 749 00:32:52,160 - > 00:32:52,640 fun one. 750 00:32:52,640 - > 00:32:57,359 Yeah, it's I always tell people that like coffee, tea, even 751 00:32:57,359 - > 00:33:00,240 alcohol, but I don't know that you'll see a customer walk in 752 00:33:00,240 - > 00:33:00,720 with a beer. 753 00:33:00,720 - > 00:33:04,480 I mean, maybe, I mean, you know what I have to say, there are 754 00:33:04,480 - > 00:33:07,279 some grocery stores, like even the health food stores, like 755 00:33:07,279 - > 00:33:09,599 that have the little bar in the corner and they have like a 756 00:33:09,599 - > 00:33:11,359 little wine as the customer's walking around. 757 00:33:11,359 - > 00:33:13,440 So, okay, maybe there's like a wine in their hand. 758 00:33:13,440 - > 00:33:15,039 Um, but you know, who knows? 759 00:33:15,039 - > 00:33:19,200 The point of that is is all of those drinks, even and sodas as 760 00:33:19,200 - > 00:33:22,960 well, they're all have that diuretic effect and they're all 761 00:33:22,960 - > 00:33:24,319 pretty caffeinated. 762 00:33:24,319 - > 00:33:27,200 And the combination really between the caffeine and the 763 00:33:27,200 - > 00:33:30,400 diuretic is what happens is like when it goes through the body. 764 00:33:30,400 - > 00:33:32,960 We know when we drink coffee, for example, we have to come to 765 00:33:32,960 - > 00:33:34,240 the restroom over and over, right? 766 00:33:34,240 - > 00:33:36,480 Because the diet, the diuretic aspect of it. 767 00:33:36,480 - > 00:33:39,839 Well, a lot of the times that's you know, excreting excess 768 00:33:39,839 - > 00:33:43,279 urine from the body, and that's excreting excess magnesium from 769 00:33:43,279 - > 00:33:46,720 the body too, because it can also often bind to the magnesium 770 00:33:46,720 - > 00:33:49,680 stored in the body and kind of push it out from the kidneys. 771 00:33:49,680 - > 00:33:52,880 And so that's like again, I'm I'm going off topic, but the 772 00:33:52,880 - > 00:33:55,839 point is like I see a coffee in hand and I'm like, hey, do you 773 00:33:55,839 - > 00:33:56,799 take magnesium? 774 00:33:56,799 - > 00:33:57,279 Yeah. 775 00:33:57,279 - > 00:33:59,440 And if you're like, no, like why? 776 00:33:59,440 - > 00:34:01,119 And I'm like, right there. 777 00:34:01,119 - > 00:34:04,160 I go, every time you drink that, and I'm like, I'm not 778 00:34:04,160 - > 00:34:05,920 judging, I'm like, I'm right here with you, okay? 779 00:34:05,920 - > 00:34:08,239 I'm like, I've got my coffee in my hand too. 780 00:34:08,239 - > 00:34:11,360 But every time we drink that, we're excreting more and more 781 00:34:11,360 - > 00:34:12,000 magnesium. 782 00:34:12,000 - > 00:34:14,480 We're already deficient as a population. 783 00:34:14,480 - > 00:34:17,519 So what a great way to be like, well, let's replenish every 784 00:34:17,519 - > 00:34:18,320 time we lose, right? 785 00:34:18,320 - > 00:34:20,719 It's not about you don't have to stop drinking coffee or tea, 786 00:34:20,719 - > 00:34:23,679 that's fine unless you want to, but let's just know how to 787 00:34:23,679 - > 00:34:24,079 replenish. 788 00:34:24,079 - > 00:34:26,079 So, like, that's a great way to like kind of lead in the 789 00:34:26,079 - > 00:34:27,519 magnesium conversation, right? 790 00:34:27,519 - > 00:34:30,239 How do we lead in the probiotic conversation or what do you 791 00:34:30,239 - > 00:34:30,639 look for? 792 00:34:30,639 - > 00:34:31,599 It's a little bit different. 793 00:34:31,599 - > 00:34:34,800 Coffee and tea won't be the exact answers for that. 794 00:34:34,800 - > 00:34:40,719 But for me, a couple of fun facts that lead that into me, it 795 00:34:40,719 - > 00:34:43,760 in for me is like I always kind of a like to even ask the 796 00:34:43,760 - > 00:34:46,159 customer, like, hey, what are you currently taking? 797 00:34:46,159 - > 00:34:46,719 Okay. 798 00:34:46,719 - > 00:34:50,960 Opening that up if you have the time for it is kind of nice 799 00:34:50,960 - > 00:34:53,199 because you're building that one-on-one relationship with 800 00:34:53,199 - > 00:34:53,360 them. 801 00:34:53,360 - > 00:34:54,800 You're asking them what they do take. 802 00:34:54,800 - > 00:34:57,360 So you can kind of assess their portfolio to begin with. 803 00:34:57,360 - > 00:34:59,920 And maybe you realize, like, oh, why are you taking three 804 00:34:59,920 - > 00:35:00,719 immune supplements? 805 00:35:00,719 - > 00:35:03,360 Or, or, or maybe it's just like, oh, you're only taking 806 00:35:03,360 - > 00:35:04,639 this, but you're not taking that. 807 00:35:04,639 - > 00:35:08,880 That's a great way because my top four supplements, probiotics 808 00:35:08,880 - > 00:35:09,599 are right in there. 809 00:35:09,599 - > 00:35:10,880 Probably my number one. 810 00:35:10,880 - > 00:35:11,280 Okay. 811 00:35:11,280 - > 00:35:13,840 And we've got magnesium in my top four as well. 812 00:35:13,840 - > 00:35:17,039 And then my other like standard two are probably a multi and an 813 00:35:17,039 - > 00:35:17,920 omega, right? 814 00:35:17,920 - > 00:35:20,480 Like that's kind of like if I had to build one for everybody, 815 00:35:20,480 - > 00:35:22,079 just standard, that's what it would be. 816 00:35:22,079 - > 00:35:24,639 So when I open up the conversation of what's in your 817 00:35:24,639 - > 00:35:27,599 collection, if I don't see probiotics in there, it kind of 818 00:35:27,599 - > 00:35:29,519 helps me leave that conversation in. 819 00:35:29,519 - > 00:35:33,440 The other thing is, is if you get into the fun facts, right 820 00:35:33,440 - > 00:35:36,559 when I mentioned this, you know, 10 minutes ago, was like, what 821 00:35:36,559 - > 00:35:38,480 does probiotic mean? 822 00:35:38,480 - > 00:35:40,559 It means for life. 823 00:35:40,559 - > 00:35:44,719 When you actually consume that, you're like, wait a minute, my 824 00:35:44,719 - > 00:35:47,280 body is made of bacteria. 825 00:35:47,280 - > 00:35:50,800 I think about my gut, and I know my immune system is housed 826 00:35:50,800 - > 00:35:53,599 there, and I know a lot of my bacteria sit in my gut, but my 827 00:35:53,599 - > 00:35:57,039 bacteria is everywhere on my skin, my eyes, my mouth, 828 00:35:57,039 - > 00:35:57,679 everywhere. 829 00:35:57,679 - > 00:36:02,639 Your body is more bacterial cells than almost anything else. 830 00:36:02,639 - > 00:36:05,599 Meaning your body is made of bacteria. 831 00:36:05,599 - > 00:36:09,199 So if you want your body to thrive, if you want your body to 832 00:36:09,199 - > 00:36:13,440 be healthy, you need to feed it with a good bacteria every 833 00:36:13,440 - > 00:36:18,719 single day, especially as bad bacteria, food, stress, 834 00:36:18,719 - > 00:36:23,519 pollution, alcohol, whatever it is that we do, gets constantly 835 00:36:23,519 - > 00:36:26,159 takes this balance between good and bad out of, right? 836 00:36:26,159 - > 00:36:27,360 Out of conjunction here. 837 00:36:27,360 - > 00:36:29,519 So you have this dysbiosis between good and bad. 838 00:36:29,519 - > 00:36:32,400 And so I'm like, you know, what are we doing on a daily to 839 00:36:32,400 - > 00:36:33,280 build the good? 840 00:36:33,280 - > 00:36:34,800 It's pretty minimal. 841 00:36:34,800 - > 00:36:36,400 Yes, I'm I hope you meditate. 842 00:36:36,400 - > 00:36:38,719 And yes, I hope you, you know, drink enough water. 843 00:36:38,719 - > 00:36:40,400 But I mean, let's be realistic here. 844 00:36:40,400 - > 00:36:43,440 You should need to have lots of kombucha, lots of kimchi, lots 845 00:36:43,440 - > 00:36:47,039 of yogurt, lots of good bacteria daily to keep it where it needs 846 00:36:47,039 - > 00:36:47,360 to be. 847 00:36:47,360 - > 00:36:49,920 So it's for your life, okay? 848 00:36:49,920 - > 00:36:52,719 Your body's made out of it more than anything. 849 00:36:52,719 - > 00:36:57,119 It's responsible or part of so many things that we do. 850 00:36:57,119 - > 00:37:00,239 So, like when you think about um your weight, if you're like, 851 00:37:00,239 - > 00:37:03,679 oh, I I struggle with my weight, yeah, okay, you can think 852 00:37:03,679 - > 00:37:06,880 about, you know, fat loss supplements or running a couple 853 00:37:06,880 - > 00:37:08,159 miles, but hold on a minute. 854 00:37:08,159 - > 00:37:09,920 Do you actually think about your gut? 855 00:37:09,920 - > 00:37:11,920 Because your gut's vital. 856 00:37:11,920 - > 00:37:14,800 That's where a lot of your sugar cravings are coming from. 857 00:37:14,800 - > 00:37:17,440 Okay, this is where a lot of weight is dealt with. 858 00:37:17,440 - > 00:37:19,760 This is where serotonin is often produced. 859 00:37:19,760 - > 00:37:23,199 And we know that one of the other things that really hinders 860 00:37:23,199 - > 00:37:24,480 weight is our mood. 861 00:37:24,480 - > 00:37:28,800 If we're depressed, if we are stressed, if we are tired, all 862 00:37:28,800 - > 00:37:30,000 these things also affect. 863 00:37:30,000 - > 00:37:34,559 So we gotta look at our gut and take care of our gut if we want 864 00:37:34,559 - > 00:37:35,840 to look at the rest of our body. 865 00:37:35,840 - > 00:37:39,199 If you're not taking care taking care of your gut, then 866 00:37:39,199 - > 00:37:43,360 honestly, the other things are just like the consider your gut 867 00:37:43,360 - > 00:37:46,559 like the roots of the tree, and everything else is like the 868 00:37:46,559 - > 00:37:49,199 branch, and you're just trying to band-aid the branch, that 869 00:37:49,199 - > 00:37:52,320 root isn't taken care of, it's still gonna create problems. 870 00:37:52,320 - > 00:37:58,400 So to me, probiotics are maybe opening it up with the top four, 871 00:37:58,400 - > 00:38:01,199 you know, supplements, maybe just asking them just straight 872 00:38:01,199 - > 00:38:03,440 up, hey, do you guys do you take a probiotic? 873 00:38:03,440 - > 00:38:05,440 It's you know, probably one of my top things. 874 00:38:05,440 - > 00:38:08,559 Or if they bring up, I'm struggling with my my weight, 875 00:38:08,559 - > 00:38:12,400 I'm struggling with my my mood, I'm struggling with um, you 876 00:38:12,400 - > 00:38:14,719 know, uh sugar craving, whatever, whatever, you know, 877 00:38:14,719 - > 00:38:18,079 I'm thinking more about um type 2 diabetes kind of conversation, 878 00:38:18,079 - > 00:38:19,039 you know, etc. 879 00:38:19,039 - > 00:38:23,039 It you can lean it that way and and really think about 880 00:38:23,039 - > 00:38:25,599 probiotics because even though they support the immune system 881 00:38:25,599 - > 00:38:29,920 and they can help with digestion and things like that, um, it's 882 00:38:29,920 - > 00:38:32,719 also the reason that you see a woman's formula, a men's 883 00:38:32,719 - > 00:38:36,800 formula, a 50 plus, an active, a postnatal, because there's so 884 00:38:36,800 - > 00:38:41,199 many things that these probiotic strains do in our, you know, to 885 00:38:41,199 - > 00:38:44,239 support our body, our microbiome ultimately. 886 00:38:44,480 - > 00:38:44,800 Tina Maddock: Yeah. 887 00:38:44,800 - > 00:38:48,159 And you know, you bring up a really good point about asking 888 00:38:48,159 - > 00:38:51,679 people like, what's your what's your wellness stack right now? 889 00:38:51,679 - > 00:38:55,199 Or however you want to get into that conversation. 890 00:38:55,199 - > 00:38:58,960 I go into health food stores and to supplement stores a lot, 891 00:38:58,960 - > 00:38:59,440 obviously. 892 00:38:59,440 - > 00:39:00,559 It's part of my job. 893 00:39:00,559 - > 00:39:02,159 I know you do too. 894 00:39:02,159 - > 00:39:07,199 I typically know what I want before I'm walking in there 895 00:39:07,199 - > 00:39:11,280 because I've done some research, I'm having an issue, or I'm 896 00:39:11,280 - > 00:39:13,039 just getting my normal stuff, right? 897 00:39:13,039 - > 00:39:15,679 So I walk in there, I know what I want. 898 00:39:15,679 - > 00:39:18,559 So when someone comes up to me and they're like, Are you 899 00:39:18,559 - > 00:39:20,239 looking for something specific? 900 00:39:20,239 - > 00:39:23,840 Is typically that the question I get asked if I look like I'm 901 00:39:23,840 - > 00:39:25,119 not sure where something is. 902 00:39:25,119 - > 00:39:29,119 And then I'll say, Yeah, I'm looking for X, Y, or Z. 903 00:39:29,119 - > 00:39:33,440 I cannot remember a time when someone said, What all is on 904 00:39:33,440 - > 00:39:33,920 your list? 905 00:39:33,920 - > 00:39:35,679 Like, what all are you taking? 906 00:39:35,679 - > 00:39:38,960 Let's just, or just having some deeper conversation. 907 00:39:38,960 - > 00:39:41,840 Usually they're pointing me to the thing I'm looking for and 908 00:39:41,840 - > 00:39:43,280 they're moving on to someone else. 909 00:39:43,280 - > 00:39:46,000 And I just think there's so much opportunity in having a 910 00:39:46,000 - > 00:39:50,719 little bit of conversation about goals, issues, what you're 911 00:39:50,719 - > 00:39:51,760 currently taking. 912 00:39:51,760 - > 00:39:54,960 And that gives you the opportunity to really help 913 00:39:54,960 - > 00:39:59,760 someone get more out of what they're shopping in your store 914 00:39:59,760 - > 00:40:00,960 in that day. 915 00:40:01,360 - > 00:40:03,199 Nikita Austen: And let's also think about it. 916 00:40:03,199 - > 00:40:07,119 Why would they come to the store as opposed to shop online? 917 00:40:07,119 - > 00:40:08,239 Yeah. 918 00:40:08,239 - > 00:40:11,440 They come to the store maybe because they happen to already 919 00:40:11,440 - > 00:40:14,239 be there, but they like to talk to somebody. 920 00:40:14,239 - > 00:40:16,800 They want to get someone's opinion, they want to look at 921 00:40:16,800 - > 00:40:19,440 the options, they want to feel them, touch them, etc. 922 00:40:19,440 - > 00:40:23,119 The more we continue to give them the reason to come to the 923 00:40:23,119 - > 00:40:25,199 store, the more they're gonna come to the store as well. 924 00:40:25,199 - > 00:40:25,519 Yeah. 925 00:40:25,519 - > 00:40:25,840 Right. 926 00:40:25,840 - > 00:40:26,480 And I've seen that. 927 00:40:26,480 - > 00:40:28,800 I've even had that when I worked at Whole Foods where I 928 00:40:28,800 - > 00:40:31,760 would have somebody who's like, no, I want to talk to Nikita. 929 00:40:31,760 - > 00:40:34,320 And I'm like, oh, and I'm trying to like say, like, I'm 930 00:40:34,320 - > 00:40:35,920 helping a customer, could you help, you know, her? 931 00:40:35,920 - > 00:40:37,760 And they're like, no, no, I want to talk to Nikita, I want 932 00:40:37,760 - > 00:40:37,920 to wait. 933 00:40:37,920 - > 00:40:40,800 And to me, there's like no cooler compliment than that, 934 00:40:40,800 - > 00:40:42,159 really, in a lot of ways. 935 00:40:42,159 - > 00:40:45,119 But the thing is, is that it can also get a little 936 00:40:45,119 - > 00:40:48,079 overwhelming when you think of the supplement section because 937 00:40:48,079 - > 00:40:51,760 you're like, okay, if you listen to any training, even like if I 938 00:40:51,760 - > 00:40:54,400 do a training, at the end I go, Oh, I should, I should be 939 00:40:54,400 - > 00:40:55,039 taking that too. 940 00:40:55,039 - > 00:40:56,320 It's like my own training. 941 00:40:56,320 - > 00:40:57,679 And I'm like, I need that one. 942 00:40:57,679 - > 00:40:58,800 Oh, wait, I need that one too. 943 00:40:58,800 - > 00:41:01,360 And next thing you know, I have 40 supplements that I actually 944 00:41:01,360 - > 00:41:02,639 want to take and I need. 945 00:41:02,639 - > 00:41:04,000 That's not realistic. 946 00:41:04,000 - > 00:41:06,320 There's a few of those people that take the 10 at once, and 947 00:41:06,320 - > 00:41:07,199 that's fine. 948 00:41:07,199 - > 00:41:11,199 But listening to what they have, if sometimes simplifying 949 00:41:11,199 - > 00:41:14,079 it, like I said, if you're like, why are you taking like two of 950 00:41:14,079 - > 00:41:16,800 these ones instead you could be taking like one of these? 951 00:41:16,800 - > 00:41:19,440 When they overwhelm themselves too and they don't realize it, 952 00:41:19,440 - > 00:41:21,039 it sometimes they just check out. 953 00:41:21,039 - > 00:41:22,719 Too much is the problem. 954 00:41:22,719 - > 00:41:25,519 I love to simplify it, simplify it, simplify. 955 00:41:25,519 - > 00:41:28,000 Yeah, yeah, you want to kind of build the basket and give them 956 00:41:28,000 - > 00:41:30,000 a good array of offering, that's fine. 957 00:41:30,000 - > 00:41:32,639 But at what point does it like push them away because it 958 00:41:32,639 - > 00:41:33,280 becomes too much? 959 00:41:33,280 - > 00:41:36,480 So if I ask them and they're like, I'm taking a mag glycinate 960 00:41:36,480 - > 00:41:39,599 and I'm taking this probiotic and I'm taking this, that I go, 961 00:41:39,599 - > 00:41:40,719 okay, well, when do you take them? 962 00:41:40,719 - > 00:41:44,079 They're like, oh, all at once, or I'm like, hmm, here's my 963 00:41:44,079 - > 00:41:44,480 suggestion. 964 00:41:44,480 - > 00:41:46,000 What if we took this one at night? 965 00:41:46,000 - > 00:41:48,639 If you feel like you're taking too many in the morning, and 966 00:41:48,639 - > 00:41:51,679 just even that alone makes them kind of feel like, oh, like I 967 00:41:51,679 - > 00:41:55,280 can handle this, or I can handle one more, or I understand why 968 00:41:55,280 - > 00:41:55,920 I'm taking it. 969 00:41:55,920 - > 00:41:58,639 The more you educate them too on like why they're taking it, 970 00:41:58,639 - > 00:42:01,199 the more empowered they feel, more and connected and 971 00:42:01,199 - > 00:42:03,119 interested they are to the product, and they'll want to 972 00:42:03,119 - > 00:42:04,559 come back and talk to you some more. 973 00:42:04,559 - > 00:42:05,920 So I know it's hard. 974 00:42:05,920 - > 00:42:08,239 I know a lot of stories are like, oh, we're so short-staffed 975 00:42:08,239 - > 00:42:09,440 and we're just trying to get everything done. 976 00:42:09,440 - > 00:42:10,320 And like, I get that. 977 00:42:10,320 - > 00:42:13,440 And I know there's a lot of difficulty there, but if you get 978 00:42:13,440 - > 00:42:17,840 the chance to talk, even if it's for five minutes, it can be 979 00:42:17,840 - > 00:42:18,719 so impactful. 980 00:42:18,960 - > 00:42:22,559 Tina Maddock: It's I mean, you can build baskets that way, but 981 00:42:22,559 - > 00:42:24,559 you're also building such a big relationship. 982 00:42:24,559 - > 00:42:28,239 They're gonna keep coming back again if they feel like you 983 00:42:28,239 - > 00:42:29,760 steered them in the right direction. 984 00:42:29,760 - > 00:42:31,039 So yeah, yeah. 985 00:42:31,599 - > 00:42:34,480 Nikita Austen: Think about any any store that you might go to, 986 00:42:34,480 - > 00:42:37,039 whether it's your esthetician, you're like, why do I keep going 987 00:42:37,039 - > 00:42:37,280 there? 988 00:42:37,280 - > 00:42:40,159 Or maybe it's your local health food store, or maybe it's your 989 00:42:40,159 - > 00:42:41,360 place that you get your oil change. 990 00:42:41,360 - > 00:42:42,239 Is there a reason? 991 00:42:42,239 - > 00:42:43,039 Is there a connection? 992 00:42:43,039 - > 00:42:45,039 Is there something that you're like, that's why I always like 993 00:42:45,039 - > 00:42:45,440 to go there? 994 00:42:45,440 - > 00:42:47,199 Because I just like to say hi to those people. 995 00:42:47,199 - > 00:42:48,320 I like to, you know, do that. 996 00:42:48,320 - > 00:42:49,840 That's the same thing applies here. 997 00:42:49,840 - > 00:42:53,920 Let us be the reason that they want to come back to talk to us, 998 00:42:53,920 - > 00:42:54,719 you know? 999 00:42:55,280 - > 00:42:55,920 Tina Maddock: Yeah, okay. 1000 00:42:55,920 - > 00:43:00,000 I have another question because it's been coming up more and 1001 00:43:00,000 - > 00:43:00,320 more. 1002 00:43:00,320 - > 00:43:04,320 And I this is I might be a little bit late on the trend in 1003 00:43:04,320 - > 00:43:07,199 having this conversation because I think it's been around for a 1004 00:43:07,199 - > 00:43:08,880 bit and it's gotten more popular. 1005 00:43:08,880 - > 00:43:13,840 But look, TikTok, um, Instagram, reels, YouTube 1006 00:43:13,840 - > 00:43:17,360 influencers, for whatever reason, acromancia keeps coming 1007 00:43:17,360 - > 00:43:18,559 up over and over again. 1008 00:43:18,559 - > 00:43:20,880 Is that something that you guys talk about? 1009 00:43:21,360 - > 00:43:23,280 Nikita Austen: Yeah, acromancia. 1010 00:43:23,280 - > 00:43:28,480 It's definitely been coming up and it will continue to come up 1011 00:43:28,480 - > 00:43:29,119 as well. 1012 00:43:29,119 - > 00:43:33,119 Acromancia is something that as a company we've been looking at 1013 00:43:33,119 - > 00:43:34,559 for a couple of years now. 1014 00:43:34,559 - > 00:43:39,519 And acromancia, you can find it in a probiotic, and you can 1015 00:43:39,519 - > 00:43:41,920 also find it in a postbiotic. 1016 00:43:41,920 - > 00:43:42,480 Okay. 1017 00:43:42,480 - > 00:43:46,719 And because I'm gonna talk about it from a postbiotic sense 1018 00:43:46,719 - > 00:43:49,199 here for a second, I just want to pause and explain what a 1019 00:43:49,199 - > 00:43:52,079 postbiotic is for those that are listening. 1020 00:43:52,079 - > 00:43:56,400 Again, we have pre, we have pro, and we have post as we know 1021 00:43:56,400 - > 00:43:57,360 it today. 1022 00:43:57,360 - > 00:44:01,360 While probiotic is really the one that's The live bacteria, 1023 00:44:01,360 - > 00:44:01,519 right? 1024 00:44:01,519 - > 00:44:03,679 That's what you kind of have in the center point of this live 1025 00:44:03,679 - > 00:44:04,320 bacterium. 1026 00:44:04,320 - > 00:44:08,880 The prebiotic is usually a type of fiber, okay, a prebiotic 1027 00:44:08,880 - > 00:44:09,280 fiber. 1028 00:44:09,280 - > 00:44:12,639 And the fiber ultimately feeds the probiotic. 1029 00:44:12,639 - > 00:44:15,519 So since it's a fiber, it's not refrigerated, it's just like 1030 00:44:15,519 - > 00:44:18,639 shelf stable, but it's food for the probiotic. 1031 00:44:18,639 - > 00:44:24,800 And when the probiotic eats the prebiotic and digests it, it 1032 00:44:24,800 - > 00:44:27,840 creates this sort of third product, this little end 1033 00:44:27,840 - > 00:44:29,280 metabolite, if you will. 1034 00:44:29,280 - > 00:44:31,599 And that's called a postbiotic. 1035 00:44:31,599 - > 00:44:35,679 At this point, this is also not a live bacteria, it's processed 1036 00:44:35,679 - > 00:44:35,840 through. 1037 00:44:35,840 - > 00:44:39,039 It's this metabolite, it's this thing that gets produced from 1038 00:44:39,039 - > 00:44:40,639 the digestion of it. 1039 00:44:40,639 - > 00:44:43,760 But it's not live, so it can be shelf stable, for example. 1040 00:44:43,760 - > 00:44:48,559 And even though it's this like dead bacteria in a way, it in 1041 00:44:48,559 - > 00:44:52,480 itself still has a ton of benefits for the body. 1042 00:44:52,480 - > 00:44:52,960 Okay. 1043 00:44:52,960 - > 00:44:57,840 So in order to get a postbiotic, your probiotic needs 1044 00:44:57,840 - > 00:44:59,360 to consume prebiotics. 1045 00:44:59,360 - > 00:45:02,000 And in that process, postbiotic is formed. 1046 00:45:02,000 - > 00:45:02,480 Okay. 1047 00:45:02,480 - > 00:45:08,559 Now, with acromancia, and the reason why it took us a while to 1048 00:45:08,559 - > 00:45:12,079 produce it, and the reason it's gained a lot of popularity is 1049 00:45:12,079 - > 00:45:15,760 there was one other supplier, or not supplier, but um a uh like 1050 00:45:15,760 - > 00:45:18,000 a supplement brand that was selling, that was selling 1051 00:45:18,000 - > 00:45:20,320 acromancia and it was quite expensive online. 1052 00:45:20,320 - > 00:45:24,559 Like we're talking $90 to $100, you know, for this one single 1053 00:45:24,559 - > 00:45:25,760 strained product. 1054 00:45:25,760 - > 00:45:27,679 That's really expensive in our industry. 1055 00:45:27,679 - > 00:45:31,199 And that's very much more a select customer clientele that 1056 00:45:31,199 - > 00:45:31,760 would buy that. 1057 00:45:31,760 - > 00:45:34,639 And so as a as a company and a brand, we were like, well, we 1058 00:45:34,639 - > 00:45:37,840 can't sell a $90, you know, single strain probiotic unless 1059 00:45:37,840 - > 00:45:41,119 we knew that it did something magical, which we we we're we're 1060 00:45:41,119 - > 00:45:43,519 getting to that point, but even then that's a bit much. 1061 00:45:43,519 - > 00:45:44,000 Yeah. 1062 00:45:44,000 - > 00:45:48,000 So it took us a while to, you know, wait for it to get to a 1063 00:45:48,000 - > 00:45:51,039 good price point, uh, to be able to, you know, get more research 1064 00:45:51,039 - > 00:45:51,760 on it and stuff. 1065 00:45:51,760 - > 00:45:55,760 But where acromancia comes in and where people associate 1066 00:45:55,760 - > 00:45:59,599 acromancia in simplicity is weight management and weight 1067 00:45:59,599 - > 00:45:59,920 loss. 1068 00:45:59,920 - > 00:46:00,719 Okay. 1069 00:46:00,719 - > 00:46:04,000 I'm not stating here blatantly that taking acromancia is going 1070 00:46:04,000 - > 00:46:04,800 to make you lose weight. 1071 00:46:04,800 - > 00:46:08,159 I'm just saying that conversation, internet, TikTok 1072 00:46:08,159 - > 00:46:10,960 connection, people are associating the term acromancia 1073 00:46:10,960 - > 00:46:11,760 with weight loss. 1074 00:46:11,920 - > 00:46:12,079 Tina Maddock: Right. 1075 00:46:12,559 - > 00:46:15,280 Nikita Austen: And when you looked at acromancia, again, 1076 00:46:15,280 - > 00:46:18,639 which is this bacterial bacteria ultimately that's kind of found 1077 00:46:18,639 - > 00:46:22,320 in the body, when we looked at it in a clinical study sense 1078 00:46:22,320 - > 00:46:25,599 from healthy population, healthy individuals that are not 1079 00:46:25,599 - > 00:46:29,039 considered overweight or obese, just you know, general healthy 1080 00:46:29,039 - > 00:46:33,039 population, there's about 4% of acromancia present in the body. 1081 00:46:33,039 - > 00:46:33,599 Okay. 1082 00:46:33,599 - > 00:46:35,039 Okay, great. 1083 00:46:35,039 - > 00:46:38,239 When we look at people that are considered overweight and or 1084 00:46:38,239 - > 00:46:42,000 obese, and we look at the percentage of acromancia in the 1085 00:46:42,000 - > 00:46:44,159 body, it's little to none. 1086 00:46:44,159 - > 00:46:47,679 So, okay, that's a great scientific theory, right? 1087 00:46:47,679 - > 00:46:51,039 This is a starting point for us where we go, healthy people 1088 00:46:51,039 - > 00:46:54,800 have it, um, and those that are considered overweight and obese 1089 00:46:54,800 - > 00:46:56,639 have none of it almost at all. 1090 00:46:56,639 - > 00:46:59,760 Is there a correlation there between weight management? 1091 00:46:59,760 - > 00:47:02,559 Then they start to do kind of more studies where when they 1092 00:47:02,559 - > 00:47:05,760 look at, you know, in a rat study, which again, we we as a 1093 00:47:05,760 - > 00:47:08,880 company use human clinical studies in order to make claims, 1094 00:47:08,880 - > 00:47:12,880 but we will still review like other animal studies as well, 1095 00:47:12,880 - > 00:47:14,400 even though I'm not a fan of animal studies. 1096 00:47:14,400 - > 00:47:15,519 Okay, I'm just throwing it out there. 1097 00:47:15,519 - > 00:47:16,320 But you know, it happens. 1098 00:47:16,320 - > 00:47:18,400 Okay, we'll get there where that just stops happening. 1099 00:47:18,400 - > 00:47:20,000 Come on, use the humans, okay? 1100 00:47:20,000 - > 00:47:21,679 We need money, I'll I'll be a test. 1101 00:47:21,679 - > 00:47:22,639 Just just do it for me. 1102 00:47:22,639 - > 00:47:25,519 I'll I'll use the 60 bucks an hour or whatever. 1103 00:47:25,519 - > 00:47:28,719 So the point is, is when we look at the animal studies too, 1104 00:47:28,719 - > 00:47:32,880 we've seen it where they can take the microbiome from, let's 1105 00:47:32,880 - > 00:47:35,199 say, a human that is considered overweight, right? 1106 00:47:35,199 - > 00:47:38,880 Without the acromansia, put it into a rat that's considered 1107 00:47:38,880 - > 00:47:42,079 healthy, that microbiome, that bacteria, and then that rat 1108 00:47:42,079 - > 00:47:43,519 starts to put on weight. 1109 00:47:43,519 - > 00:47:46,239 So you see these types of studies where not just looking 1110 00:47:46,239 - > 00:47:48,800 at it, they've pulled microbiome, they've kind of 1111 00:47:48,800 - > 00:47:52,880 implanted it, or you know, yeah, maybe implanted is the right 1112 00:47:52,880 - > 00:47:55,280 term here, but in into the animal, into the rat, and you 1113 00:47:55,280 - > 00:47:57,920 notice that the weight does start to change, in fact, in a 1114 00:47:57,920 - > 00:47:59,599 negative way when it's not present. 1115 00:47:59,599 - > 00:48:03,280 So right now we do sell a necromancia, it's considered a 1116 00:48:03,280 - > 00:48:06,480 postbiotic, it is shelf stable in this case as well. 1117 00:48:06,480 - > 00:48:09,599 Uh, we don't have any claims on the pack for like weight 1118 00:48:09,599 - > 00:48:11,840 management or weight loss because, again, there's still 1119 00:48:11,840 - > 00:48:14,239 more studies to kind of come. 1120 00:48:14,239 - > 00:48:17,920 But it's very popular in some countries in Europe as well, and 1121 00:48:17,920 - > 00:48:20,239 they've really got on board with it, and a lot of people 1122 00:48:20,239 - > 00:48:23,360 want it, and it is still a just a great thing to take. 1123 00:48:23,360 - > 00:48:26,719 So I would say no harm, no foul in a lot of ways. 1124 00:48:26,719 - > 00:48:29,599 Um, that's gonna support your microbiome anyway. 1125 00:48:29,599 - > 00:48:33,119 It's just that that's really where the conversation is 1126 00:48:33,119 - > 00:48:35,360 growing is the weight management aspect. 1127 00:48:36,079 - > 00:48:38,400 Tina Maddock: Yeah, and blood glucose control, that kind of 1128 00:48:38,400 - > 00:48:38,639 thing. 1129 00:48:38,639 - > 00:48:40,880 Yes, there's a lot of conversation around that. 1130 00:48:40,880 - > 00:48:46,559 I'm not saying that this has um the efficacy for fighting that 1131 00:48:46,559 - > 00:48:49,519 or changing anything, but that is the conversation, a lot of 1132 00:48:49,519 - > 00:48:51,039 studies that are being done right now. 1133 00:48:51,039 - > 00:48:57,280 Um so but that sort of let's pivot into if when a person 1134 00:48:57,280 - > 00:49:00,400 comes in and they're specifically asking for a 1135 00:49:00,400 - > 00:49:05,360 probiotic, um what how do you know which one that they need? 1136 00:49:05,360 - > 00:49:09,599 Acromancia is on the list of things that you could steer them 1137 00:49:09,599 - > 00:49:12,480 toward depending on what their goal is or what they're looking 1138 00:49:12,480 - > 00:49:14,079 for or what problem they're trying to solve. 1139 00:49:14,079 - > 00:49:15,599 But give me just some ideas. 1140 00:49:15,599 - > 00:49:17,920 What are some questions that you ask and how do you steer 1141 00:49:17,920 - > 00:49:18,960 them in the right direction? 1142 00:49:19,280 - > 00:49:20,000 Nikita Austen: Okay, yes. 1143 00:49:20,000 - > 00:49:21,360 So which one would they need? 1144 00:49:21,360 - > 00:49:26,239 I mean, so just to give you an example here, uh, because I can 1145 00:49:26,239 - > 00:49:28,480 speak through my collection in particular. 1146 00:49:28,480 - > 00:49:30,800 And and my collection will have some similar offerings that 1147 00:49:30,800 - > 00:49:31,760 other brands would as well. 1148 00:49:31,760 - > 00:49:34,960 But like in the Solar A microbiome complete, which is 1149 00:49:34,960 - > 00:49:36,880 the line that I mentioned that I talked at Soho. 1150 00:49:36,880 - > 00:49:39,760 So it's the pre, the pro, and the postbiotic collection. 1151 00:49:39,760 - > 00:49:46,159 We have a woman's formula, a men's formula, active, mood, 1152 00:49:46,159 - > 00:49:48,960 postnatal, 50 plus. 1153 00:49:48,960 - > 00:49:50,159 What am I forgetting? 1154 00:49:50,159 - > 00:49:52,000 I'm just gonna look at my image here on the side and make sure 1155 00:49:52,000 - > 00:49:56,880 I'm like the vaginal one, um vaginal health or something. 1156 00:49:56,880 - > 00:50:00,159 Uh yes, the vaginal health would be would fall under the 1157 00:50:00,159 - > 00:50:01,039 woman's formula. 1158 00:50:01,039 - > 00:50:02,159 Okay, in this case. 1159 00:50:02,159 - > 00:50:03,360 So yes, that's what it was. 1160 00:50:03,360 - > 00:50:06,239 So I said so 50 plus, oh, the ultimate, duh, the ultimate 1161 00:50:06,239 - > 00:50:07,039 potency one. 1162 00:50:07,039 - > 00:50:08,239 I can talk to you that as well. 1163 00:50:08,239 - > 00:50:11,599 The women's, the men's, the post, the mood, and the active. 1164 00:50:11,599 - > 00:50:12,159 Okay. 1165 00:50:12,159 - > 00:50:14,960 Just to start with, no matter which one you're taking here, 1166 00:50:14,960 - > 00:50:17,360 again, they're these products kind of have two different 1167 00:50:17,360 - > 00:50:17,760 blends. 1168 00:50:17,760 - > 00:50:20,559 There's one that's more of like a standard blend that that 1169 00:50:20,559 - > 00:50:22,480 that's part of them all, and that's like, you know, your 1170 00:50:22,480 - > 00:50:24,159 immune system and a lot of other things. 1171 00:50:24,159 - > 00:50:26,960 And then there's more of the custom individualized blend 1172 00:50:26,960 - > 00:50:30,079 that's in there as well that is gonna be more directive for the 1173 00:50:30,079 - > 00:50:32,639 woman's one to help with supporting, you know, the 1174 00:50:32,639 - > 00:50:35,280 vaginal canal and whether we're looking at it from a yeast 1175 00:50:35,280 - > 00:50:38,960 perspective or a bacterial perspective or just healthy, you 1176 00:50:38,960 - > 00:50:40,400 know, hormonal balance. 1177 00:50:40,400 - > 00:50:43,679 Um, the men's one is gonna focus more on prostate health, 1178 00:50:43,679 - > 00:50:47,360 more on colon health, as that is a higher concern for men, even 1179 00:50:47,360 - > 00:50:48,320 cholesterol. 1180 00:50:48,320 - > 00:50:51,519 Then the postnatal is going to look at breast milk production. 1181 00:50:51,519 - > 00:50:54,400 It's going to look at mood support, it's gonna look at 1182 00:50:54,400 - > 00:50:54,880 different things. 1183 00:50:54,880 - > 00:50:58,960 So the custom blends at that point are going to support the 1184 00:50:58,960 - > 00:50:59,599 different one. 1185 00:50:59,599 - > 00:51:02,559 So if you're coming in and you're like, I just need a 1186 00:51:02,559 - > 00:51:04,400 probiotic, I didn't have anything specific. 1187 00:51:04,400 - > 00:51:07,039 My doctor told me, you know, take a probiotic, or maybe I 1188 00:51:07,039 - > 00:51:08,639 told them take a probiotic. 1189 00:51:08,639 - > 00:51:09,840 Where do I start? 1190 00:51:09,840 - > 00:51:14,400 Well, if you feel generally speaking, healthy, balanced, and 1191 00:51:14,400 - > 00:51:17,039 and I'm a woman, yeah, I'll go right for the woman's one. 1192 00:51:17,039 - > 00:51:19,280 Kind of simple, you know, there's not too much to think 1193 00:51:19,280 - > 00:51:19,440 about. 1194 00:51:19,440 - > 00:51:22,559 And on the woman's one, the the three claims that we put on the 1195 00:51:22,559 - > 00:51:27,119 front of PAC and just success to restate any claim I mention 1196 00:51:27,119 - > 00:51:31,280 is based on not just clinical support, but minimum two double 1197 00:51:31,280 - > 00:51:34,480 blind placebo-controlled human clinical studies. 1198 00:51:34,480 - > 00:51:34,800 Okay. 1199 00:51:34,800 - > 00:51:36,960 So not animal or anything, just human clinical studies. 1200 00:51:36,960 - > 00:51:41,280 I have got vaginal health support, supports fat loss, mood 1201 00:51:41,280 - > 00:51:43,840 and occasional stress support, because I've got strains in 1202 00:51:43,840 - > 00:51:46,480 there that also support weight management and actually 1203 00:51:46,480 - > 00:51:48,400 significantly show fat loss. 1204 00:51:48,400 - > 00:51:51,599 Not just weight management, but fat loss in particular. 1205 00:51:51,599 - > 00:51:54,400 So, okay, great, that's a great one for me. 1206 00:51:54,400 - > 00:51:57,840 Now, maybe you're somebody who's like, okay, well, yes, 1207 00:51:57,840 - > 00:52:00,320 this one does have mood, mood support in it, that's great. 1208 00:52:00,320 - > 00:52:02,880 But maybe you're someone who struggles a lot more with maybe 1209 00:52:02,880 - > 00:52:05,440 depression, you know, or anxiety or mood. 1210 00:52:05,440 - > 00:52:08,239 And it could be situational or it could be kind of chronic, 1211 00:52:08,239 - > 00:52:08,480 right? 1212 00:52:08,480 - > 00:52:09,599 Depending on where you're at in your life. 1213 00:52:09,599 - > 00:52:11,920 And you're like, I need a lot more boost with my mood. 1214 00:52:11,920 - > 00:52:13,679 Then let's look at the mood formula. 1215 00:52:13,679 - > 00:52:17,599 So if I look at the mood formula, my claims are cognitive 1216 00:52:17,599 - > 00:52:20,960 support, mood support, and also occasional stress support. 1217 00:52:20,960 - > 00:52:22,960 Remember, I still have the base blend. 1218 00:52:22,960 - > 00:52:24,880 So there's still things in there that are naturally just 1219 00:52:24,880 - > 00:52:27,760 gonna help my body and immune and and even probably vaginal 1220 00:52:27,760 - > 00:52:29,119 health in some ways, you know. 1221 00:52:29,119 - > 00:52:30,960 But you could be a man, a man taking this. 1222 00:52:30,960 - > 00:52:32,559 It's no harm, no foul. 1223 00:52:32,559 - > 00:52:36,079 There's no hormones or added ingredients in any of these, 1224 00:52:36,079 - > 00:52:37,679 with exception of the probiotic strains. 1225 00:52:37,679 - > 00:52:39,760 So it's okay to be interchangeable. 1226 00:52:39,760 - > 00:52:42,000 Um, or maybe active formula. 1227 00:52:42,000 - > 00:52:45,679 So maybe you're either a um, you know, a triathlete or 1228 00:52:45,679 - > 00:52:49,519 somebody who's very active, or you're somebody who's like, I'm 1229 00:52:49,519 - > 00:52:52,559 not the triathlete, but I'm the person that needs to focus on my 1230 00:52:52,559 - > 00:52:52,880 weight. 1231 00:52:52,880 - > 00:52:55,760 Maybe I need to focus on cardiovascular support, you 1232 00:52:55,760 - > 00:52:55,920 know. 1233 00:52:55,920 - > 00:52:58,159 Maybe I have, you know, cardiovascular disease in my 1234 00:52:58,159 - > 00:53:01,199 family or, you know, cholesterol or heart-related, let's say, 1235 00:53:01,199 - > 00:53:04,079 issues, um, or in general, I just need support with energy 1236 00:53:04,079 - > 00:53:05,039 and weight management. 1237 00:53:05,039 - > 00:53:08,159 The active one could also be really great for you in this 1238 00:53:08,159 - > 00:53:08,480 case. 1239 00:53:08,480 - > 00:53:13,519 And then one other example I'll give is if you are either A, 1240 00:53:13,519 - > 00:53:15,840 taking antibiotics, right? 1241 00:53:15,840 - > 00:53:19,760 If you're taking antibiotics, I will ask you every single time 1242 00:53:19,760 - > 00:53:20,960 to take a probiotic. 1243 00:53:21,039 - > 00:53:21,280 unknown: Yeah. 1244 00:53:21,599 - > 00:53:22,400 Nikita Austen: How does that work? 1245 00:53:22,400 - > 00:53:23,679 Take the antibiotic. 1246 00:53:23,679 - > 00:53:25,840 Let's say it's eight o'clock in the morning, 8 a.m. 1247 00:53:25,840 - > 00:53:27,199 Just to give an example. 1248 00:53:27,199 - > 00:53:29,760 So you take that that antibiotic, it kills off the 1249 00:53:29,760 - > 00:53:31,119 bad, it kills off the good. 1250 00:53:31,119 - > 00:53:34,079 Wait two hours, let that process go through. 1251 00:53:34,079 - > 00:53:35,599 Now we're at 10 a.m. 1252 00:53:35,599 - > 00:53:39,760 Now let's take the probiotic and replenish our body's 1253 00:53:39,760 - > 00:53:40,480 microflora. 1254 00:53:40,480 - > 00:53:43,360 Let's replenish that bacteria because again, the antibiotic 1255 00:53:43,360 - > 00:53:44,320 did what it needed to. 1256 00:53:44,320 - > 00:53:44,639 Fine. 1257 00:53:44,639 - > 00:53:47,840 It killed off the bad, but it also killed off the good. 1258 00:53:47,840 - > 00:53:51,280 And when we kill off the good, then how does our body and our 1259 00:53:51,280 - > 00:53:53,199 immune system function for the rest of the day? 1260 00:53:53,199 - > 00:53:55,599 I don't know if any women on this call have had this happen, 1261 00:53:55,599 - > 00:53:57,679 but I have had this happen too many times. 1262 00:53:57,679 - > 00:54:00,880 I've learned the hard way, is taking an antibiotic and then 1263 00:54:00,880 - > 00:54:02,639 getting a yeast infection every time. 1264 00:54:02,639 - > 00:54:04,239 Almost like clockwork. 1265 00:54:04,239 - > 00:54:05,199 Every time. 1266 00:54:05,199 - > 00:54:06,719 And I'm like, oh my God. 1267 00:54:06,719 - > 00:54:09,679 So here I am going, okay, we're not doing that again. 1268 00:54:09,679 - > 00:54:12,320 We're going to take our probiotics at the same time 1269 00:54:12,320 - > 00:54:15,920 because we are depleting that immune system, which allows 1270 00:54:15,920 - > 00:54:18,159 other things to grow and become problematic. 1271 00:54:18,159 - > 00:54:21,280 Now, even if you're not on an antibiotic, maybe you're like 1272 00:54:21,280 - > 00:54:22,239 first line of defense. 1273 00:54:22,239 - > 00:54:26,239 I think of that anything from a nurse to a teacher, you know, 1274 00:54:26,239 - > 00:54:29,119 to a firefighter, that someone that's in a high stressful 1275 00:54:29,119 - > 00:54:32,960 state, someone who is an airplane, airplane um flight 1276 00:54:32,960 - > 00:54:35,440 attendant who's around a lot of people a lot of times. 1277 00:54:35,440 - > 00:54:38,400 I would take the the ultimate one every time then too, you 1278 00:54:38,400 - > 00:54:41,039 know, or maybe you're a mom with multiple kids that are 1279 00:54:41,039 - > 00:54:43,360 everyone, you know, one time someone's gonna come home with 1280 00:54:43,360 - > 00:54:44,800 this sickness and the other one with this one. 1281 00:54:44,800 - > 00:54:48,079 This is a good one because it, yeah, it really helps your 1282 00:54:48,079 - > 00:54:48,800 immune system. 1283 00:54:48,800 - > 00:54:53,119 So it's not just because it's an obiotic, though, that's 1284 00:54:53,119 - > 00:54:54,239 critical for that point. 1285 00:54:54,239 - > 00:54:57,199 There are many other reasons why this could be a great one. 1286 00:54:57,199 - > 00:55:01,039 And maybe you're like, I'm a woman who's also has really, you 1287 00:55:01,039 - > 00:55:03,920 know, maybe bad depression and I need the mood one, but I also 1288 00:55:03,920 - > 00:55:05,920 want to lose weight, and I also have five kids. 1289 00:55:05,920 - > 00:55:08,079 Okay, don't freak out. 1290 00:55:08,079 - > 00:55:10,320 Uh, you can do a couple things here. 1291 00:55:10,320 - > 00:55:12,719 You can take one and they'll ideally support you. 1292 00:55:12,719 - > 00:55:15,519 You can buy if you want to buy two, you when you want to buy 1293 00:55:15,519 - > 00:55:17,599 two different ones and you just want to take one every other 1294 00:55:17,599 - > 00:55:20,559 day, or you want to take a couple this weekend and then do 1295 00:55:20,559 - > 00:55:22,880 like that's fine too, you know, however you want to. 1296 00:55:22,880 - > 00:55:26,320 There they can be stacked in in some regards, they can be 1297 00:55:26,320 - > 00:55:27,039 interchanged. 1298 00:55:27,039 - > 00:55:30,239 I'm not really worried about that there, but just kind of 1299 00:55:30,239 - > 00:55:33,760 lean towards which one your gut literally your gut instinct goes 1300 00:55:33,760 - > 00:55:37,280 to first, and then you can change it out at that point. 1301 00:55:37,599 - > 00:55:38,960 Tina Maddock: Yeah, that's great. 1302 00:55:38,960 - > 00:55:40,159 I think this helps. 1303 00:55:40,159 - > 00:55:44,559 Um, if if you are a retail owner or operator and you're 1304 00:55:44,559 - > 00:55:48,719 listening to this, there's this part of this podcast episode 1305 00:55:48,719 - > 00:55:53,280 that I feel like you can let anyone in your store listen to 1306 00:55:53,280 - > 00:55:57,920 to help be able to have some of these conversations that are a 1307 00:55:57,920 - > 00:56:02,400 little bit more, you know, connection for the customer, a 1308 00:56:02,400 - > 00:56:05,519 little bit more guiding for the customer. 1309 00:56:05,519 - > 00:56:08,719 How are we helping people really get what they need? 1310 00:56:08,719 - > 00:56:11,440 I know a lot of times we're talking from a marketing 1311 00:56:11,440 - > 00:56:11,920 perspective. 1312 00:56:11,920 - > 00:56:14,400 So we're like, how do we build baskets? 1313 00:56:14,400 - > 00:56:15,760 How do we do these things? 1314 00:56:15,760 - > 00:56:18,000 And we're talking about numbers and revenue and everything 1315 00:56:18,000 - > 00:56:18,320 else. 1316 00:56:18,320 - > 00:56:22,400 But the only way that works is if people continue to trust you. 1317 00:56:22,400 - > 00:56:25,519 And the way they build trust is by building connection and for 1318 00:56:25,519 - > 00:56:28,800 you to steer them to things that they need or a better way of 1319 00:56:28,800 - > 00:56:32,159 doing what they're already doing or something that gets them to 1320 00:56:32,159 - > 00:56:34,880 better health, they're gonna keep coming back to you again 1321 00:56:34,880 - > 00:56:35,280 and again. 1322 00:56:35,280 - > 00:56:38,960 So even though I do talk about building bigger baskets, because 1323 00:56:38,960 - > 00:56:42,480 it's mostly because we're talking about there's so many 1324 00:56:42,480 - > 00:56:45,280 things that people could use that would really make their 1325 00:56:45,280 - > 00:56:46,320 lives better. 1326 00:56:46,320 - > 00:56:49,119 And yes, it builds revenue for the company as well. 1327 00:56:49,119 - > 00:56:52,800 But I feel like building some of the trust, some of the um 1328 00:56:52,800 - > 00:56:56,320 conversations that we're talking about, having a really building 1329 00:56:56,320 - > 00:57:00,880 trust with the consumer so that they come back to you again and 1330 00:57:00,880 - > 00:57:01,440 again. 1331 00:57:01,440 - > 00:57:05,199 Um, and and I do think you guys are the ones that are the 1332 00:57:05,199 - > 00:57:08,960 gatekeepers for getting good products to the customers, 1333 00:57:08,960 - > 00:57:11,519 things that actually work, that do what they say they're gonna 1334 00:57:11,519 - > 00:57:11,760 do. 1335 00:57:11,760 - > 00:57:15,679 But yeah, I just I think building that that relationship 1336 00:57:15,679 - > 00:57:20,960 with that consumer, you guys are the gatekeepers for giving good 1337 00:57:20,960 - > 00:57:23,840 product to the consumer and things that they need and that 1338 00:57:23,840 - > 00:57:25,440 will make their lives better. 1339 00:57:25,440 - > 00:57:29,519 And we know that there are companies out there that are not 1340 00:57:29,519 - > 00:57:32,880 doing the right thing in the market, and you guys are the 1341 00:57:32,880 - > 00:57:36,639 ones that can um keep this industry looking like what we 1342 00:57:36,639 - > 00:57:39,920 all know it is, that most of the people and the actors in this 1343 00:57:39,920 - > 00:57:42,559 industry are trying to do good things for people. 1344 00:57:42,960 - > 00:57:46,079 Nikita Austen: And I want to add one thing, go ahead, if that's 1345 00:57:46,079 - > 00:57:47,440 okay, just to what you're saying. 1346 00:57:47,440 - > 00:57:49,519 Because I just realized I was like, oh, there was a whole 1347 00:57:49,519 - > 00:57:52,320 piece I didn't even highlight, and I'll I'll tie it in quickly 1348 00:57:52,320 - > 00:57:52,480 here. 1349 00:57:52,480 - > 00:57:55,679 But when we talk about, you know, yes, we can build a 1350 00:57:55,679 - > 00:57:59,199 basket, but we also want to just even at minimum keep that 1351 00:57:59,199 - > 00:58:00,880 customer with what they have, right? 1352 00:58:00,880 - > 00:58:03,280 We want to make sure that it does work for them, and that 1353 00:58:03,280 - > 00:58:05,840 comes with the quality and that comes with things like that. 1354 00:58:05,840 - > 00:58:09,360 Going back to the probiotic conversation really quick, 1355 00:58:09,360 - > 00:58:12,800 because that is such a different category than the rest of the 1356 00:58:12,800 - > 00:58:13,360 department. 1357 00:58:13,360 - > 00:58:16,559 And so what I want to add there is like when you're taking a 1358 00:58:16,559 - > 00:58:20,559 probiotic, the place in the body that you want it to open up, I 1359 00:58:20,559 - > 00:58:22,480 mentioned is in your intestine, right? 1360 00:58:22,480 - > 00:58:23,280 Down there below. 1361 00:58:23,280 - > 00:58:26,400 Now it's not to say that like probiotics don't benefit every 1362 00:58:26,400 - > 00:58:28,559 part of the body, but when you're taking it specifically 1363 00:58:28,559 - > 00:58:30,400 like in a capsule format, right? 1364 00:58:30,400 - > 00:58:34,000 As opposed to like food or or anything else, you want it to 1365 00:58:34,000 - > 00:58:36,800 get to the intestine and you want it to open up in the 1366 00:58:36,800 - > 00:58:37,519 intestine. 1367 00:58:37,519 - > 00:58:40,400 So that's where a lot of the bacteria is and it can kind of 1368 00:58:40,400 - > 00:58:41,360 cultivate through. 1369 00:58:41,360 - > 00:58:44,079 Where you don't want it really to break apart is in the 1370 00:58:44,079 - > 00:58:46,960 stomach, because the stomach has all that stomach acid. 1371 00:58:46,960 - > 00:58:50,800 And unfortunately, these fragile and cold strains don't 1372 00:58:50,800 - > 00:58:54,000 typically, most of the time, they don't survive stomach acid. 1373 00:58:54,000 - > 00:58:57,360 And so the other thing I just wanted to add that's really 1374 00:58:57,360 - > 00:59:00,559 important when you're buying capsule probiotics, it's 1375 00:59:00,559 - > 00:59:04,400 something that we do as well for solarate, is we have an enteric 1376 00:59:04,400 - > 00:59:05,599 protection on them. 1377 00:59:05,599 - > 00:59:08,559 So we call it the enteric shield, like that's the name 1378 00:59:08,559 - > 00:59:09,599 that you'll see on the box. 1379 00:59:09,599 - > 00:59:14,239 But enteric, what that term ultimately represents is that it 1380 00:59:14,239 - > 00:59:16,800 can uh withstand like stomach acid. 1381 00:59:16,800 - > 00:59:20,159 It can the capsule can stay strong through stomach acid, 1382 00:59:20,159 - > 00:59:22,960 bypass it, and actually get in the intestine, right? 1383 00:59:22,960 - > 00:59:27,519 Okay, and you might see enteric like on fish oils um or like 1384 00:59:27,519 - > 00:59:27,920 garlic. 1385 00:59:27,920 - > 00:59:30,159 I mean, fish oils is always like a big one because you know 1386 00:59:30,159 - > 00:59:33,840 when you take a fish oil and that capsule hits the acid, the 1387 00:59:33,840 - > 00:59:37,440 oil hits the acid and boom, comes right back up for the rest 1388 00:59:37,440 - > 00:59:37,840 of the day. 1389 00:59:37,840 - > 00:59:39,519 It's not the rest of the week, it feels like. 1390 00:59:39,519 - > 00:59:42,079 So that's why sometimes they enteric protect them because 1391 00:59:42,079 - > 00:59:44,800 they want to push it past that stomach acid so that doesn't 1392 00:59:44,800 - > 00:59:45,360 happen. 1393 00:59:45,360 - > 00:59:48,400 Here with a probiotic, we do enteric protect them. 1394 00:59:48,400 - > 00:59:51,519 And what that ultimately does is it guarantees it to get past 1395 00:59:51,519 - > 00:59:53,519 the stomach acid and into the intestine. 1396 00:59:53,519 - > 00:59:56,800 And when we talk about the product's gotta work for the 1397 00:59:56,800 - > 00:59:58,000 customer to come back. 1398 00:59:58,000 - > 01:00:00,880 If you know, I mean, sometimes they don't see it right away. 1399 01:00:00,880 - > 01:00:03,440 Like some multivitamins people are like, I get energy, and 1400 01:00:03,440 - > 01:00:05,360 others are like, I don't know, I just hope it works. 1401 01:00:05,360 - > 01:00:06,079 Okay, great. 1402 01:00:06,079 - > 01:00:08,639 And then there's other things that like probiotics and maybe 1403 01:00:08,639 - > 01:00:11,599 even digestive enzymes and other categories where they can 1404 01:00:11,599 - > 01:00:14,719 sometimes feel an immediate effect from it or they do get 1405 01:00:14,719 - > 01:00:15,599 instant results. 1406 01:00:15,599 - > 01:00:19,840 If someone's gonna spend 30, 40, 50 plus dollars for a 1407 01:00:19,840 - > 01:00:23,599 probiotic, which these refrigerated ones cost, I want 1408 01:00:23,599 - > 01:00:26,719 to make sure that they're actually getting that in into 1409 01:00:26,719 - > 01:00:27,440 their intestine. 1410 01:00:27,440 - > 01:00:31,679 And so that enteric protection is telling you, hey, we're 1411 01:00:31,679 - > 01:00:34,400 guaranteeing it to get past timic acid and open up where you 1412 01:00:34,400 - > 01:00:36,239 want it to get, which is in the intestine. 1413 01:00:36,239 - > 01:00:39,440 That's another part of like not just the quality in the 1414 01:00:39,440 - > 01:00:43,519 ingredient in the capsule, but now the type of capsule, knowing 1415 01:00:43,519 - > 01:00:47,119 how it breaks apart, when it breaks apart, is the second part 1416 01:00:47,119 - > 01:00:50,719 of assuring that the product gets to where it needs to go in 1417 01:00:50,719 - > 01:00:53,039 order for the customer to feel it, in order for the customer to 1418 01:00:53,039 - > 01:00:53,440 come back. 1419 01:00:53,440 - > 01:00:55,599 You know, so that's just another piece that I was just 1420 01:00:55,599 - > 01:00:59,119 like, oh, I really want to tie that in because that's a part of 1421 01:00:59,119 - > 01:01:03,119 making sure the product works for them to have good results to 1422 01:01:03,119 - > 01:01:04,239 want to continue it. 1423 01:01:04,559 - > 01:01:07,280 Tina Maddock: Yeah, and you kind of touch on something that I 1424 01:01:07,280 - > 01:01:11,840 think is important, anyway, is setting some expectations around 1425 01:01:11,840 - > 01:01:14,719 whether or not the product's working. 1426 01:01:14,719 - > 01:01:18,639 Um, I there are some products that man, you can feel that 1427 01:01:18,639 - > 01:01:19,440 immediately. 1428 01:01:19,440 - > 01:01:24,000 Even with probiotics, sometimes it takes a minute for your body 1429 01:01:24,000 - > 01:01:27,199 to start using that the way that it's meant to use it. 1430 01:01:27,199 - > 01:01:30,960 And so just setting some expectations around come back 1431 01:01:30,960 - > 01:01:35,440 and talk to me 30, 60, and 90 days later, being that 1432 01:01:35,440 - > 01:01:38,320 connection for someone to be able to give you feedback, like 1433 01:01:38,320 - > 01:01:41,119 this is working, this is not working, what should I be doing 1434 01:01:41,119 - > 01:01:41,360 now? 1435 01:01:41,360 - > 01:01:44,800 That's also just another point where you're building that 1436 01:01:44,800 - > 01:01:49,039 relationship to you're their person, you're their store, and 1437 01:01:49,039 - > 01:01:50,880 they're gonna keep coming back to you. 1438 01:01:51,199 - > 01:01:51,440 Nikita Austen: Yeah. 1439 01:01:51,440 - > 01:01:54,239 I mean, especially when people struggle with like regularity. 1440 01:01:54,239 - > 01:01:57,360 They're like, I can't go often, and that could be for many 1441 01:01:57,360 - > 01:01:57,599 reasons. 1442 01:01:57,599 - > 01:01:59,920 It could be medications they're taking, it could be food, 1443 01:01:59,920 - > 01:02:00,400 stress. 1444 01:02:00,400 - > 01:02:03,519 That's another one that there's a lot of bacterial strains, 1445 01:02:03,519 - > 01:02:06,320 especially like in the colon formulas, that really help kind 1446 01:02:06,320 - > 01:02:07,920 of push and move things through. 1447 01:02:07,920 - > 01:02:12,559 They could get an immediate or very, very soon after result 1448 01:02:12,559 - > 01:02:13,840 from a taking it, you know. 1449 01:02:13,840 - > 01:02:16,559 So, yeah, so that's another point of come back, tell me how 1450 01:02:16,559 - > 01:02:16,960 it worked. 1451 01:02:16,960 - > 01:02:18,639 If it doesn't, let's adjust. 1452 01:02:18,639 - > 01:02:19,440 I got you. 1453 01:02:19,440 - > 01:02:20,800 We can we can work with it. 1454 01:02:21,039 - > 01:02:23,440 Tina Maddock: Especially when they're spending you're talking 1455 01:02:23,440 - > 01:02:25,920 you're right, you're talking about someone spending $30, $40, 1456 01:02:25,920 - > 01:02:27,840 $50 on a product. 1457 01:02:27,840 - > 01:02:30,880 Please be a point of connection for them to give you feedback. 1458 01:02:30,880 - > 01:02:35,519 Yeah, it's a lot of money to ask for people to spend. 1459 01:02:35,519 - > 01:02:37,920 All right, this has been great. 1460 01:02:37,920 - > 01:02:42,800 Let's say I and I this is hard to imagine that there would be a 1461 01:02:42,800 - > 01:02:46,079 health store out there who doesn't already know who you are 1462 01:02:46,079 - > 01:02:48,880 or doesn't carry at least one of your products in them. 1463 01:02:48,880 - > 01:02:51,440 But let's just say that they're ready now after this 1464 01:02:51,440 - > 01:02:54,400 conversation that we've had to pull you in and put you on the 1465 01:02:54,400 - > 01:02:54,719 shelves. 1466 01:02:54,719 - > 01:02:55,920 What do they do? 1467 01:02:56,239 - > 01:02:56,639 Nikita Austen: Yes. 1468 01:02:56,639 - > 01:02:59,199 Okay, so let's say you don't have our products. 1469 01:02:59,199 - > 01:03:02,320 Or maybe you have a few of them, but maybe you don't, you 1470 01:03:02,320 - > 01:03:04,000 know, have buy buy them direct. 1471 01:03:04,000 - > 01:03:06,480 There's a few little things that sometimes I think ended up 1472 01:03:06,480 - > 01:03:07,679 in a catalog somewhere. 1473 01:03:07,679 - > 01:03:09,840 Um, you can always go on our website. 1474 01:03:09,840 - > 01:03:12,159 So Better Being Co. 1475 01:03:12,159 - > 01:03:13,920 Better Being Company. 1476 01:03:13,920 - > 01:03:16,800 And on there, if you scroll down, we do have an application 1477 01:03:16,800 - > 01:03:18,000 that you can fill out. 1478 01:03:18,000 - > 01:03:21,519 But I'm also going to throw out one other just little quicker 1479 01:03:21,519 - > 01:03:22,400 maybe connection. 1480 01:03:22,400 - > 01:03:25,679 I'm going to give you my one of my work emails that's usually 1481 01:03:25,679 - > 01:03:26,639 for my education. 1482 01:03:26,639 - > 01:03:29,280 And if you are like, I went through the website and I can't 1483 01:03:29,280 - > 01:03:31,920 figure that out, email this email. 1484 01:03:31,920 - > 01:03:38,480 It's retailer, just like it sounds, retailer trainings 1485 01:03:38,480 - > 01:03:39,199 within us. 1486 01:03:39,199 - > 01:03:43,199 Retailertrainings at betterbeing.com. 1487 01:03:43,199 - > 01:03:46,000 If you send us an email there, we're more than happy. 1488 01:03:46,000 - > 01:03:48,880 I can direct you to the right person and get you more of an 1489 01:03:48,880 - > 01:03:50,079 immediate connection there. 1490 01:03:50,079 - > 01:03:52,400 Otherwise, like I said, you can go through the website and 1491 01:03:52,400 - > 01:03:54,159 there's an application you can fill out. 1492 01:03:54,159 - > 01:03:56,559 But if not, when in doubt, I I got you. 1493 01:03:56,559 - > 01:03:59,440 So go ahead and and you can email that way, and I'll 1494 01:03:59,440 - > 01:04:03,119 certainly support that and get you, you know, um the right 1495 01:04:03,119 - > 01:04:04,079 person to talk to. 1496 01:04:04,400 - > 01:04:06,719 Tina Maddock: Well, and also just retailer trainings. 1497 01:04:06,719 - > 01:04:09,599 Everyone would love more and more training. 1498 01:04:09,599 - > 01:04:12,480 And this is a way to get connected to the right people to 1499 01:04:12,480 - > 01:04:15,599 help you get that for nutraceutical products or CRA or 1500 01:04:15,599 - > 01:04:15,679 something. 1501 01:04:15,760 - > 01:04:18,800 Nikita Austen: So if you are listening people and you do buy 1502 01:04:18,800 - > 01:04:23,519 any of these products here, as you can see, um, then you can 1503 01:04:23,519 - > 01:04:25,280 absolutely email retailertrainings at 1504 01:04:25,280 - > 01:04:26,159 betterbean.com. 1505 01:04:26,159 - > 01:04:29,599 If you have some questions from us, we are more than happy to 1506 01:04:29,599 - > 01:04:30,400 answer that for you. 1507 01:04:30,400 - > 01:04:33,280 Otherwise, you can also go through your rep and set up 1508 01:04:33,280 - > 01:04:33,760 education. 1509 01:04:33,760 - > 01:04:35,360 We've been looking at that all year. 1510 01:04:35,360 - > 01:04:37,199 Like we do consumer lectures. 1511 01:04:37,199 - > 01:04:42,000 I do tons of consumer lectures or speeches or podcasts or radio 1512 01:04:42,000 - > 01:04:46,239 shows or whatever it may be, we are there to support it in any 1513 01:04:46,239 - > 01:04:46,400 way. 1514 01:04:46,719 - > 01:04:47,519 Tina Maddock: That's wonderful. 1515 01:04:47,519 - > 01:04:51,679 And I do know having events like consumer education, 1516 01:04:51,679 - > 01:04:55,440 absolutely great for building trust and building community and 1517 01:04:55,440 - > 01:04:57,360 also building your sales. 1518 01:04:57,360 - > 01:05:01,599 So appreciate so much that you decided to come on today. 1519 01:05:01,599 - > 01:05:03,840 I know you thought we weren't gonna have that much to talk 1520 01:05:03,840 - > 01:05:05,119 about and look at us now. 1521 01:05:06,079 - > 01:05:09,440 Nikita Austen: I well, I we could keep going per usual, 1522 01:05:09,440 - > 01:05:09,599 right? 1523 01:05:09,599 - > 01:05:12,719 So here we are, an hour, an hour later, I think. 1524 01:05:12,719 - > 01:05:14,159 So yeah, absolutely. 1525 01:05:14,400 - > 01:05:16,559 Tina Maddock: Well, I appreciate it so much for you being here 1526 01:05:16,559 - > 01:05:18,559 and everyone that's listening today. 1527 01:05:18,559 - > 01:05:21,199 So glad that you decided to spend a little time with us 1528 01:05:21,199 - > 01:05:21,519 today. 1529 01:05:21,519 - > 01:05:24,719 Hope you got everything that you wanted out of this episode, 1530 01:05:24,719 - > 01:05:26,000 and we will be back. 1531 01:05:26,000 - > 01:05:26,880 See you soon. 1532 01:05:26,880 - > 01:05:30,239 Thank you so much for joining us for the latest episode of the 1533 01:05:30,239 - > 01:05:34,000 Natural Products Marketer podcast, where we're here to 1534 01:05:34,000 - > 01:05:37,679 help you grow your business so you can serve more people and 1535 01:05:37,679 - > 01:05:39,039 change more lives. 1536 01:05:39,039 - > 01:05:42,400 If you have any questions that have come up during this episode 1537 01:05:42,400 - > 01:05:45,199 or others, or there's just a retail challenge that you're 1538 01:05:45,199 - > 01:05:48,559 facing today, I would love for you to reach out to us at info 1539 01:05:48,559 - > 01:05:51,280 at naturalproductsmarketer.com. 1540 01:05:51,280 - > 01:05:53,360 We're here to answer questions. 1541 01:05:53,360 - > 01:05:57,199 But most of all, if you have a question, then another retailer 1542 01:05:57,199 - > 01:06:00,639 probably also has that question, so we can bring extra experts 1543 01:06:00,639 - > 01:06:04,079 onto the podcast to give you the information that you really 1544 01:06:04,079 - > 01:06:04,400 need. 1545 01:06:04,400 - > 01:06:08,400 And if you liked what you heard, give us a thumbs up or 1546 01:06:08,400 - > 01:06:13,920 give us a review on uh YouTube, Spotify, Apple Podcasts, or 1547 01:06:13,920 - > 01:06:15,119 wherever you're listening today. 1548 01:06:15,119 - > 01:06:15,679 All right. 1549 01:06:15,679 - > 01:06:17,199 It was great to see you.

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