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Ep 94: Our Final Episode of The Mike Up In Your Business Podcast

Mike Up In Your Business Podcast with Mike Michalowicz · 2022-01-03 · 29 min

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Key moments - from our scoring

Substance score

9 / 100

Five dimensions, 20 points each

Insight Density1 / 20
Originality1 / 20
Guest Caliber2 / 20
Specificity & Evidence3 / 20
Conversational Craft2 / 20

This final episode sees Mike Michalowicz and his team - Jeremy, Amy, and formerly Kelsey - reflect on the podcast journey while announcing its sunset. After producing nearly 400 episodes of interviews and roundtable discussions across Entrepreneurship Elevated and Mike Up In Your Business, the team has decided to redirect their efforts toward YouTube and book projects. While the podcast achieved 115,000+ downloads on its current platform and 25,000 on the transferred Entrepreneurship Elevated feed, the production demands - interviews, editing, production work, and post-episode recaps - have become disproportionate to audience growth. The team will redirect energy toward The Real Entrepreneur, a YouTube-based reaction video series, and explore book publishing, including the upcoming My Money Bunnies children's financial literacy title. The episode doubles as a celebration of the show's culture, interview quality, and the relationships built among the team, with genuine affection for the casual banter and unique perspectives that defined the show's editorial approach.

Key takeaways

  • →The podcast is closing due to flat listenership that doesn't justify the cumulative production time (interviews, editing, post-episode recaps, and games), a reality the team believes applies to many podcasts today.
  • →The team is pivoting to YouTube with The Real Entrepreneur, a reaction-video series, where they've seen stronger viewership metrics than the podcast generated.
  • →My Money Bunnies, a children's financial literacy book, launches in November, and the team plans to explore more book projects focused on early-generation financial and business education.
  • →Short-form YouTube clips and clips from back-catalog episodes will be repurposed to preserve teaching moments without requiring listeners to consume hundreds of hours of content.
  • →The podcast's real value - beyond business interviews - was the culture, humor, and relationships among the team, built through dedicated production time that allowed genuine connection and banter.

Topics in this episode

Interview-based contentbusiness educationbook publishingThe Real EntrepreneurMike's YouTubeMy Money BunniesEntrepreneurship ElevatedYouTube reaction videosFinancial literacy for childrenPodcast production metrics

Questions this episode answers

Why is the Mike Up In Your Business Podcast ending?

The podcast is ending because listenership has plateaued while production demands remain high; the team spends roughly an hour on interviews, another hour on post-episode recaps, plus editing and game production, which isn't justified by audience growth metrics.

What is The Real Entrepreneur and where can you watch it?

The Real Entrepreneur is a new YouTube reaction-video series where Mike Michalowicz reacts to and comments on entrepreneurial and other content; it can be found at MikesYoutube.com, which redirects to the main YouTube channel.

How many episodes did the podcast produce in total?

The team produced over 400 combined episodes across Entrepreneurship Elevated (~320 interviews) and Mike Up In Your Business (~86 episodes, soon to reach 100).

What is My Money Bunnies and when is it releasing?

My Money Bunnies is a children's financial literacy book releasing in November, designed to help the next generation manage finances and develop business mindsets early in life.

Will podcast content be repurposed anywhere?

Yes, the team plans to create short-form YouTube clips from past interviews and key teaching moments so audiences can access lessons without listening to hundreds of hours of full episodes.

What our scoring noted

Our reviewer’s read on each dimension, with quotes from the episode.

Insight Density

1 / 20

This is a pure farewell episode with virtually zero substantive business content for any operator. The entire runtime is nostalgia, banter about microphones, and vague announcements about YouTube and a children's book.

it's time to set our sights on something new
we are going to be exploring more to help, you know, the early generation, the up and coming generation, to be prepared to run a business or just manage your finances well

Originality

1 / 20

There is no original thinking, framework, or even a recycled idea presented. The episode produces nothing a listener could apply or react to intellectually.

I don't believe in conspiracy theories often, but I'll tell you this. There's a reason the news squashes certain things, like death by microphone.
it's the final countdown. There's so many trivias you could have done today.

Guest Caliber

2 / 20

There are no external guests whatsoever - only the internal team of hosts and producers saying goodbye. Mike Michalowicz is a known author, but he contributes no substantive expertise in this episode.

Kelsey, Amy, Jeremy, this has just been a joy doing these podcasts with you. Thank you.
I can't remember their names, though. So obviously it wasn't very

Specificity & Evidence

3 / 20

The only concrete figures shared are rough download stats and episode counts, offered without any analytical context or argument they are meant to support.

we have about 150,000 or 115,000 downloads
entrepreneurship elevated was around 320 interviews. And I think we did this was uh, 80.

Conversational Craft

2 / 20

There are no substantive questions, no follow-ups on ideas, and no intellectual challenge of any kind. The exchange is entirely social banter, in-jokes, and mutual appreciation with no craft directed at extracting insight.

I just want everyone to be our listeners to know this. Leslie, uh, Harvey died from a microphone in 1972. Electrocuted by it.
Do you know Amy Cortelli? You know Amy Cartelli?

Conversation analysis

Computed from the transcript - who did the talking, and the words that came up most.

Share of words spoken

  • Speaker D45%
  • Speaker C23%
  • Speaker A17%
  • Speaker B15%

Most-used words

mike21episode17podcast16back15microphone13kelsey12listening11jeremy10show10thank10episodes9laugh9trivia9long8interviews8listen8

Episode notes

This is it, folks. Our final episode. While we recollect and reminisce about the fun trip our podcast has been, we're also setting our sights on new ways to serve the entrepreneurial community. Please check Mike out on MikesYouTube.com for fun and new content, and follow him on instagram @mikemichalowicz for exciting upcoming announcements. Thanks for your support and loyal listening! See you soon!

Full transcript

29 min

Transcribed and scored by The B2B Podcast Index.

Speaker A: Who's recording?

Speaker B: I am.

Speaker A: Yay. Hi, Mike.

Speaker C: Hey there.

Speaker B: Guten Morgan.

Speaker D: It is a Guten Morgan.

Speaker B: That's not right.

Speaker A: That's not how it goes.

Speaker B: I'm very German. That is not right.

Speaker C: I was hoping you guys would notice I dressed up for the occasion according to my background.

Speaker D: Part of you has, like, you're getting

Speaker B: locked on your shoulder.

Speaker A: Your shoulder disappears.

Speaker B: Arm amputated. Uh, sorry.

Speaker A: It's so weird.

Speaker D: So funny, this technology. You're dressed appropriately for that background.

Speaker A: You really are.

Speaker C: Yeah, I know. It's the green.

Speaker D: You can't wear green. The ultimate color not to wear.

Speaker B: Do you have a different color vest?

Speaker C: I mean, I'm not Mike Michalowicz.

Speaker A: I don't have multiple.

Speaker D: I only got one vest.

Speaker C: There's only one.

Speaker A: Yes. Oh, uh, man, if he cared.

Speaker C: Still does it.

Speaker A: If you cared. Yeah, it's weird.

Speaker B: Yeah, still does it. It's green screen, so it doesn't matter what the background is. Wearing green.

Speaker C: Just lean back like that.

Speaker A: That's why.

Speaker B: Kelsey, lean back.

Speaker A: He's falling into a lake.

Speaker B: Don't lean too far back.

Speaker D: So what are we doing today?

Speaker B: What's our plan, Stans?

Speaker A: Well, we're just wrapping up, guys, so really, we just want to tell everybody about where we're headed next. That, uh, this is the end of the podcast, and, um, it's time to set our sights on something new.

Speaker D: So you know what? I've been listening to our shows recently because I've been on these long drives. I had to go down to dc, um, I guess two weeks ago. It's like four hours each way. And, uh, coming home, I was like, oh, crank up our podcast. Like, we do some good shit. We do some good shit. I think the interviews, if I may say, are interesting. I think the perspectives are unique and different compared to the run of the mill, uh, entrepreneurial interviews. I think our discussions afterwards, I get the most joy out of that. It's like, oh, there's reflection and there's perspectives that I don't hear during the podcast. And I think it's also our cultures there. Like, the games are funny, the preamble's funny. It's just, to me, it's very real. So I am going to miss our podcast. One last thing. I want to acknowledge Jeremy's production of it. I think, Jeremy, you have grown in your production capabilities, no question, because I've listened to, uh, early on versus later on, and they've all been good. That recently you've been hitting great. Like, you're doing audio edits. And stuff like with the go get different commercial is just tight and fun. You're the intro feed of the people you're picking. Good quotes just made a difference between good work and mastery is 1%. But that 1% is like a big mountain to climb. And I, uh, think you have, man. So good job here, here.

Speaker A: I say the same here.

Speaker C: I appreciate that. I mean, um, well, first of all, I think you got to. We got to start over. We got to actually announce what's going on, because we know what's going on. But to our listener, we kind of skipped over that.

Speaker D: We're closing down the show. We're closing down the show. Yeah. So, you know, here's what we're doing. We're sunsetting Mike up in your business, uh, and our podcast journey in general for now. So we had entrepreneurship elevated and Mic up in your business, I think, combined. We're in the 400 episodes.

Speaker C: Three.

Speaker D: Three to 400 episodes in cumulative. And, um, it's been such a joy doing it, but the numbers don't lie, and we have subscribers, and thank you. If you're listening right now, you're one of the loyal subscribers that listen. But the podcast isn't growing, and the effort and time requires. So you think about it. The four of us recently, to make a little tweak, we kick Kelsey out just to save her time. Not because we didn't want Kelsey just to save time. And so every episode, uh, you hear something that runs for 40 minutes. Maybe a long one, an hour, maybe a quick one, 35 minutes. But the time to create that is me doing the interview, Jeremy, Amy listening, Kelsey used to listen. Then us having another hour session of doing all the recaps of these things. Jeremy assembling games, then the editing. You add this up, it's like, oh, my gosh. The cumulative amount of time is significant and are enough people driving benefit. And the data doesn't lie. And I don't think we're the only podcast that's like that. I think there's a lot of podcasts that the listenership isn't there to justify continuing to do it. Um, so that's why we're doing it. But we're moving on to something new where we do see the viewership, which is with YouTube. So Jeremy's been hard at work creating, um, the Entrepreneur, the Real Entrepreneur, which is a show where I'm going to, or I have, um, reaction. Do create reaction videos to different shows on entrepreneurial topics, or not even entrepreneurial, where we give elements of it. So now we're seeing through that, and YouTube has proven to be just a much better field for us. So I hope our listeners of this show sign up at. Was, uh, it Mike's YouTube. J. Schloan.

Speaker C: Yeah, Mike's YouTube redirects to the, uh, your original YouTube page. Yeah, it's.

Speaker D: Go to Mike's YouTube.com.

Speaker A: yeah.

Speaker C: And then you'll be able to find. When we launched the Real Entrepreneur got a little bit delayed. Uh, when we finally get rolling with it, you'll be able to find that through there. Um, but, uh, we will have a redirect setup, uh, and which we can announce, uh, on here to the subscribers. So you'll get a notification. We'll let you know what's going on with that.

Speaker D: Awesome.

Speaker C: But I think, you know, anyone who listens to this or who had listened to entrepreneurship elevated, if you go back and you just start listening to one episode a week or, you know, when you have downtime or the next, and you pick just a little bit of information from each one, I mean, there's enough, uh, uh, content, really, really good content to where you could probably write like five or ten books. I mean, it's, it's crazy. Like, it runs the gamut from accounting and startup, uh, to marketing to E commerce to franchising. I mean, it's motivation. It really is wild. The amount of, uh, content that you've

Speaker D: curated and rich, rich stuff. Like I was listening to the Aaron Stokes interview, which is the pretty recent interview on the way back. And you know, how often do you hear about the dynamic of guy goes from rags to riches, but the perspective of other people when you're successful in their definition and how they have to overcompensate for that. Like, it was such an interesting conversation around the perspective of wealth from the outside is stuff you wouldn't normally hear and stuff that we all deal with either we're the participant and the one who's placing judgment or receiving the judgment, but you're, you're participating. I love those angles that we talked about.

Speaker A: I'm going to miss hearing your interviews, Mike. I mean, I loved your interview style. I love the easy, casual way you had with people. And you always ask the questions I was hoping you would ask. So, um, well done to you.

Speaker D: I go, do you know Amy Cortelli? You know Amy Cartelli?

Speaker A: Yeah, that's always very important.

Speaker D: And every time they say no, I'm like, okay, do it again. You have to say yes. Jeremy will edit this out.

Speaker C: The funny thing though is, like, when I'M going through, and I'm doing the editing. Um, I'm listening to the podcast. There's questions where, yeah, I'm like, oh, please ask this question, and then you ask that question. And then there's other times where I'm like, oh, wait, wait, no, ask. No, ask this. And then you move on to another topic, and I'm like,

Speaker D: what's going on?

Speaker B: But honestly, Mike, I think you're one of the best interviewers, particularly for a podcast. You're just so natural, which is super hard because for me, I don't. I don't even remotely think of the questions in the moment.

Speaker A: And.

Speaker B: And as a listener, I can think of it, but in the moment, I never. I'm just listening to you. So you're, like, awesome at keeping it on task and pulling out the relevant information, but it's always fun and upbeat. Yeah.

Speaker D: Thank you.

Speaker C: Thank you.

Speaker D: And, you know, it's the access to some of those people wouldn't happen through any other form. I thought it was kind of cool. I remember we interviewed, uh, Ron Tite. I think it was the founder of Mary Maid.

Speaker A: Titus, I think Titus.

Speaker D: Ron Titus.

Speaker B: Very memorable for you.

Speaker A: Ray Titus.

Speaker D: I want to say he was amazing. He was the founder of Chick Fil A or something.

Speaker B: Really, really fixed in my brain.

Speaker D: I can't stop thinking about this. I can't think. Stop thinking about Jim Titice.

Speaker B: Um, Tittle. I think it was Tittle.

Speaker D: Tittle, Jim Tittle. But I'll tell you, what Jim did was the story I remember of his was getting in his car and driving from. I think he was in Alabama. He was in the Southeast, driving out toward Texas and through, stopping at prospective client or existing client after client to start getting feedback on his ideas. And he said once he made out to Texas and had, I don't know how many interviews it was, he's like, now I got enough. He started heading back and continued interviews. Which is really interesting that you hear these stories of how people grow successful businesses. And it's not like, oh, sat behind the computer and did a Google search and found this. And, wow, those stories aren't really the common thread that I heard. It was people that got their feet on the street, so to speak, just like Jim Tatil,

Speaker C: just to give you guys some stats. So, uh, just with this podcast alone, um, we have about 150,000 or 115,000 downloads. Um, and on my cup.

Speaker D: In your business.

Speaker C: Yep, on my cup in your business. And then we transferred entrepreneurship elevated to, uh, our other, uh, podcasting. Platform and since the transfer it's 25,000. Um, and in total entrepreneurship, uh, elevated was around 320 interviews. And I think we did this was uh, 80.

Speaker D: We were 86.

Speaker C: Uh, so we're, we're going to be right around 100 when it closes out. So for a total of over 400.

Speaker D: I take it back. We're doing it again.

Speaker A: I can't do it again.

Speaker D: But, you know, the other thing we're moving toward, which I'm really excited about, is, uh, exploring more in the book space. And I don't want to do premature reveals because we have some kind of beta concepts where we're playing out. I wouldn't want to disappoint someone by revealing something that's not going to be true. But we are releasing My Money Bunnies and uh, it will have been released after, or, I'm sorry, prior to this going live. So this, this podcast will post afterwards. Um, but back in November, which is right now, My Money Bunnies is coming out. And the initial enthusiasm is really interesting. There is a good portion of our existing readers in the business space who have kids or children in their lives in some capacity and want this stuff. So we are going to be exploring more to help, you know, the early generation, the up and coming generation, to be prepared to run a business or just manage your finances well or live, uh, a life that has some clearly defined, maybe rules of success aren't a good choice of words, but just some, some good guidance, um, that can be shared early on that will support them in their adult lives. So that stuff's in the works.

Speaker B: Yeah.

Speaker C: And also too, um, you know, for, for everyone who's listening who uh, still wants to get similar content to this. I mean, one of my goals is to go, I'm going to go back and put together like the little media spits from the interviews and short little clips and stuff and put that up on YouTube and stuff. So, um, you know, you'll still be able to like, get those little lessons and all those teaching moments, uh, from all these episodes without having to listen to, you know, hundreds of hours. Um, and so we're definitely going to try and repurpose some of that and get it out there.

Speaker D: Callisto Aim Any final thoughts? Do you have any favorite episodes or themes or anything that comes to mind?

Speaker B: Oh, good question.

Speaker A: That's a good question. You have.

Speaker D: So hard to remember.

Speaker B: Yeah, I love the like, Kelly Ruda episode. So she did one. Ah, a long time ago. Yeah, that was super great around mindset. And then she recently did on our mental health series. Um, she always gives us good food for thought. That has stuck with me. Um, I also liked. We talked to a couple people about, like, AI stuff that I really liked. Can't remember their names, though. So obviously it wasn't very.

Speaker A: It's Ron Hull is the guy you're thinking Ron Hull?

Speaker D: I was close.

Speaker B: I think I appreciate the podcast most because it was formative for our relationship. Like, I think particularly in the early years when I first started working for Mike. Yeah, we didn't have a lot of time together because he was always on the road, always traveling. And it was like the first opportunity for us to just banter and, I think, establish, um, our senses of humor with each other, which has been really impactful for the rest. I mean, I'm sure that would have come over time, I assume, but maybe not. Uh, yeah, maybe not.

Speaker D: It's an hour too devoted. Uh, I gotta listen to some of the early episodes. Like when you were on. Which was pretty early on. Was it. Was it from episode one or.

Speaker C: It was.

Speaker B: It wasn't from. So it was profit first podcast. And I think I came on, like, just before the 2002.

Speaker D: Okay.

Speaker B: It might have been before that. It might have been just before the 1 0s. I forget now.

Speaker C: Okay.

Speaker B: Um, but at the time it was. Christina was your co host.

Speaker C: Oh, right.

Speaker B: I was coming on. And then it was just you and I. And then Jeremy came on. Um, yeah, but that was.

Speaker D: I gotta listen to some of those.

Speaker B: Yeah, because you asked me to. Come on. You're like, all you have to do is laugh. Because I was like, I'm not a good person to be on this show. Like, I literally am such a slow processor. I'm not gonna have anything good to say.

Speaker A: And I.

Speaker B: That's fine. I'll carry it. You just gotta laugh.

Speaker D: I'll carry it. I say those words, I'll carry it.

Speaker C: I'll carry it.

Speaker B: Yeah, I can. I can do that. I laugh.

Speaker D: Well, your laugh was so, um. I can't say, like, viral. It wasn't like, um. What's the word when people.

Speaker B: Contagious.

Speaker C: Contagious.

Speaker A: Contagious.

Speaker D: It was not contagious. It was bizarre.

Speaker B: Yeah, exactly. It was the opposite. It was like people were laughing. They were like, what's that noise?

Speaker D: What the hell is that? Like, yeah, the first time your real laugh came out, everyone kind of stopped.

Speaker A: And you're like, what, uh, what? What?

Speaker B: And you're like, I take it back. Don't ever laugh again.

Speaker D: But, yeah, that's the one thing I should Suggest you carry the show. Just don't laugh. I'll be the laugh track. And we have some, you know, some of the things in the. That was our old studio, um, at the Profit First Professionals building upstairs. And, uh, Jeremy would be sitting on that stool kind of trying to film and, like, do different stuff.

Speaker C: Yeah, that was. That was. I think what was really interesting was how I got, like, sucked in and incorporated, because I wasn't planning on it. I was just.

Speaker B: I got sucked in.

Speaker C: Yeah. Sucked in, man.

Speaker D: Now look at you.

Speaker B: It started with, like, bait and switch.

Speaker C: It started with, uh, Mike, you know, making a little derogatory remark about me when I was behind the camera or something. And you're gonna joke and then you're like, yeah, you know, yeah, go ahead, you can say something. And then I would say something ever rarely. And then you, like, you don't talk enough.

Speaker A: Talk more.

Speaker C: And then eventually it just being included,

Speaker D: I was like, yeah, now, now some of the shows were just me and Schlone talking.

Speaker C: Yeah, those are fun too. Th. That's another. Yeah, uh, the behind the mics are really cool. And I think we can still continue the behind the mics just, uh, you know, with the. The video format and, uh, still get the same kind of. But those are cool because it's kind of like if I see something, uh, in the news that's relative to business or, uh, you know, something that a person sent a question or comment in, and I'm like, yeah, you know what, we should get this out there, because people would get some value out of this. Then we just kind of do a quick 20 minute guy and then team talk.

Speaker B: Yeah, just a team.

Speaker D: Yeah, team talk. Team talk.

Speaker A: Team talk.

Speaker D: What about you, Amy? Anything you're going to miss or anything?

Speaker A: I have always, always got like a little like, oh, this is exciting. Whenever I saw on the calendar that I had scheduled time for us to have an internal interview, still surprised me. It's a surprise. Oh, hey, look, I've done work and here it is. We have to show up for the podcast. No, but I have always loved the fact that I was going to get to go and do this with you guys and get this dedicated time to talk to you, because really, I love you people. And there is not enough time in the regular workday to actually get to connect and talk and dance together and laugh together the way we do. And we always fall into laughter so quickly and so easily. And it's really the highlight of the workday. So to have this dedicated time is going to be sorely missed by me, for sure.

Speaker B: Yeah.

Speaker A: Um, I have loved so many of your interviews, Mike. Um, truthfully, I tend to lean towards the people who are dealing with your. Your personality or, you know, spirit, um, that kind of stuff. But I have learned so much from so many of the business people, and I've been so grateful to, like, get a grasp on some, um, business ideas, business talk. Um, it's been really educating, and I love it.

Speaker D: I'm proud that our show did do that. Like, we didn't just explore the business, the traditional business fundamentals. We explored some other fundamentals that are not looked at, which is the spiritual side and the emotional side and is

Speaker A: the foundation for everything else that you. Ironically, it's the foundation getting through your business day. So it's all important that you encompass all of it.

Speaker D: I also want to note that you look the most like a service customer service line model today.

Speaker A: You have the jacket and the blazer

Speaker D: jacket, the blue versus the white collar. You got the perfect swoop in the hair, your head. Your microphone is particularly large today.

Speaker B: It grows every time.

Speaker D: Right. I've never seen.

Speaker B: Just getting larger and larger.

Speaker A: Why can't I have a microphone in my computer like you guys?

Speaker B: Kelsey doesn't have.

Speaker A: I don't know.

Speaker D: Yeah, I don't know. It very much reminds me of, uh, like the 70s.

Speaker A: I know, I know.

Speaker D: The long microphone and then a little ball at the top.

Speaker A: Looked like a game show host from 1967.

Speaker D: Microphones, I think they were genius because you keep your hand low, like down at your pocket.

Speaker B: Yeah.

Speaker A: And still have this microphone up and down. Yeah.

Speaker D: But it would be right in your mouth. You had a very, very molecular kind of motion. If you move too much, it punches you in the face.

Speaker A: We need to get you one, Mike. We so need to get you one of those. Oh, yes, I want one. Oh, yes.

Speaker B: How realistic you are. Amy's using scenarios make so much sense. Uh,

Speaker D: you ever seen one of those episodes when someone get their eye hurt or poked out or.

Speaker B: It's funny. I go up their nose. A lot of people using those microphones, and I've never seen that happen because.

Speaker D: Because they anchor their hand on their hip because they're so afraid of moving it. M. Think about the leverage on that. All right. Whatever calculated. The only reason you're alive today is because you didn't use a 70s microphone. Would have taken you out as a child.

Speaker A: She wasn't even. Yeah, okay.

Speaker B: Yeah, that's. Guys. These generations go. All those people have died because of microphone about it. Yeah.

Speaker D: There.

Speaker C: There Was a, uh, an Instagram post recently where Kelsey has the, uh, the little wooden hand or the. The big wooden hand.

Speaker A: Yeah, the big wooden.

Speaker D: Oh, I love that one.

Speaker C: And somebody commented and said, how come she hasn't been on the podcast lately?

Speaker B: I got booted off.

Speaker A: No, you did not. You moved yourself. You touched on.

Speaker D: Listen to the episode where they said where we talk about Kelsey leaving.

Speaker A: It was, huh, Horrible.

Speaker D: I'm typing in. I'm just Googling death by microphone because, you know, it's happened

Speaker B: by long microphone.

Speaker D: By a long microphone.

Speaker A: Kelsey, I think we. This is a good point here. Just to point out that you wrangled me into this and then left me here because you said.

Speaker B: Because you just speak so much more eloquently.

Speaker A: Oh, you are liar. You liar.

Speaker B: Not essential for me to be on here.

Speaker A: Oh, my gosh. No. All I was told, we were at the old office, and I was told, we just need you to fill in this one day because Kelsey's going on vacation. I was like, what? What? And I was in that back room with Mike alone. And then I'm listening to things like, you just have to sit there. And then at the end, he's like, oh, I forgot to tell you. You're supposed to report on what you learned today. It was all so, so, so overwhelming. And the next thing I know, I was wrangled in. Just like Jeremy wrangled in. Kelsey's sneaky. She's. She makes you think you're just showing up for something one time, and the next thing you know, the next thing

Speaker B: you know, your natural talent shines through, and we can't remove you.

Speaker A: You know what?

Speaker B: It works.

Speaker C: You know, uh, Mike told Amy the first time she was on the podcast.

Speaker B: What? Do it.

Speaker D: Oh, yeah, all the time. Remember that?

Speaker B: Yeah, that was a good one.

Speaker D: I just want everyone to be our listeners to know this. Leslie, uh, Harvey died from a microphone in 1972. Electrocuted by it. So he didn't swab himself.

Speaker B: To electrocuted is very different than it

Speaker A: like poking your eye out.

Speaker B: Yeah.

Speaker A: Having it.

Speaker D: I'm just saying. I'm just saying.

Speaker C: This is.

Speaker D: I'm, um, not confabulating this. I mean, the guy was. Was. Is 1972. The only microphones were long ones, and the microphone killed him. Done.

Speaker A: Oh, my God.

Speaker B: So can, uh, can we make note of the fact that you just said confabulate and how Mike loves to say confab

Speaker A: should be noted for the final.

Speaker B: That is something that I want conflate.

Speaker D: I'm not conflating. I mean, conflate.

Speaker B: What's a confab?

Speaker A: Conflate. Confab. Confab.

Speaker D: That's by microphone.

Speaker C: Sometimes your statistics, Mike, are great. Uh, this would be like Mike saying, oh, yeah, people die from toasters all the time.

Speaker D: Oh, dude, if they're throwing them in the tub, look at his eyes.

Speaker A: Get big. Look at his eyes.

Speaker D: Because it is deadly. It's dead.

Speaker A: I don't think Wiley microphones, though, have been a problem, though, Mike.

Speaker D: I mean, no, it's. It's not a commonly known problem.

Speaker A: They've been a problem. It's just not commonly known. You know, that's where Mike's, uh.

Speaker B: That's where I don't hate.

Speaker D: I don't believe in conspiracy theories often, but I'll tell you this. There's a reason the news squashes certain things, like death by microphone.

Speaker B: What is that reason?

Speaker D: You're not inside. You're not inside our actions. I can't tell you. I know the reason.

Speaker C: Uh, but, ah, can we talk about. Do we gotta. We gotta go through this? So we talked about, like, our favorite episodes, the best episodes, the worst. This had to be the worst episode.

Speaker D: This one?

Speaker B: Yes.

Speaker D: This one right now, yes.

Speaker A: Seinfeld episode. Episodes we will never forget.

Speaker D: Uh, I don't remember.

Speaker A: It was a trivia. Seinfeld trivia. It was just us doing an internal, like, fun Seinfeld trivia thing, and we knew none of the answers. We had no banter. It was so.

Speaker D: It was a stalemad.

Speaker C: Yeah. If anyone listening hasn't listened that episode, it's episode 52. Don't listen to it either, Ben Seinfeld. Please go back and listen to that episode. Because I was so excited for this, uh, episode, and it was a complete disaster. It was just radio silence after I asked a question. And nobody knows the answers to any of these questions except for me.

Speaker A: I can't believe it lasted.

Speaker B: I know you're blaming us since it's like that's our problem and not your problem.

Speaker C: Acted like you were all Seinfeld fans.

Speaker B: I thought years.

Speaker A: I can't believe the episode actually lasted 38 minutes. It says it was a 38 minute long episode. I have no idea how we squeezed 38 minutes out of that.

Speaker C: Because it was my magic.

Speaker D: I don't remember it at all.

Speaker B: Did you prepare any trivia for today?

Speaker C: I know I did not. I prepared fail.

Speaker B: How is that I feel?

Speaker A: I told him. I was like, no, we don't need trivia.

Speaker D: Oh, I was hoping we do our final we don't need trivia. Uh oh, Our final trivia. You could have done, like, trivia around. The final countdown by Europe.

Speaker B: The final countdown.

Speaker D: It's the final countdown. There's so many trivias you could have done today. I thought we. That's how we end with the grand finale.

Speaker C: I'll take. I'll take the blame on. There was. There was. It's like too much trivia. All right, I like I. Because what do I. You know, it's tough.

Speaker A: There's so many ways you could go.

Speaker C: Yeah, there's. There's ton ways you go, you know.

Speaker D: Kelsey, is that your wood? It looks like a. Don't move. It totally does. That's a really such like the wood hand. Oh, thank God.

Speaker A: That reminded me of Tina Fey's book cover.

Speaker D: Tina Fey's book cover is one of. I think it's one of the best book covers I've ever seen.

Speaker B: Yeah. With that manhand.

Speaker C: So you do know something about it. All right, I was just gonna say one more thing. Uh, we gotta give a shout out to, uh, the episode that had the most downloads. Um, uh, and this is one of your friends, John Rulin.

Speaker D: John Rulin.

Speaker C: The art of gifting had the most.

Speaker D: Yeah, the giftologist. Wow.

Speaker C: Yeah.

Speaker D: How many downloads did his have?

Speaker C: Um, I have to go back and check. It's episode 29.

Speaker D: 29 downloads?

Speaker C: No, no, no, no. It's episode 29. Oh.

Speaker D: Episode 29. I was like, wow, it was bad.

Speaker C: I know. It was.

Speaker B: That guy was blue that day.

Speaker C: I'm gonna try and pull it up.

Speaker D: Okay. Why pull it up? I, uh, just wanted to tell our listener thank you for spending this time with us. Um, it's tough retiring something that we're having so much fun with, but it just makes sense. We're not going anywhere. We're doing a new format. So I do again want to invite you. Go to Mike's YouTube.com meet us there, see the videos and, uh, you can start a was a petition to get

Speaker C: us doing a show.

Speaker D: If you can get 100,000 signatures that we demand mic up on, your business

Speaker A: comes back, you got to bring it back.

Speaker D: You got it? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker C: So that's less than one signature per her all time download, guys. Come on. Super.

Speaker D: It's easy, right? Yeah. Um, how bad do you want it? Okay. All, uh, right. We should get out of here, I think, right?

Speaker A: Yeah.

Speaker D: Okay. Kelsey, Amy, Jeremy, this has just been a joy doing these podcasts with you. Thank you.

Speaker A: And you, Mike.

Speaker B: Thank you, thank you, thank you.

Speaker C: This. This was. This was. This was a lot of fun.

Speaker D: It was great.

Speaker C: And thank you guys for listening and subscribing and being consistent, loyal, uh, listeners. That's awesome.

Speaker D: Wishing you good times.

Speaker A: Wishing you good times.

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