Making Data Simple · 2026-03-25 · 30 min
Send us Fan Mail Craig McLuckie is the Founder and CEO of Stacklok and one of the original inventors of Kubernetes - the open-source container orchestration system that became the backbone of modern cloud infrastructure. After leading Kubernetes into the CNCF and navigating VMware's pivot under Broadcom, Craig made a sharp turn and founded Stacklok: an Enterprise MCP Platform designed to make developers and AI agents dramatically more productive in secure, enterprise environments. In this episode, Craig and Al Martin explore what it means to build again after building something that changed the industry - and what the next wave of enterprise AI infrastructure actually requires. In this episode: 01:14 Meet Craig McLuckie - background, Kubernetes origins 10:08 Tanzu and Broadcom - what that chapter looked like from the inside 11:28 Stacklok and the Big Pivot - why MCP, why now 19:57 I Don't Know! - a rare founder moment of intellectual honesty 21:32 Success is a Poor Teacher - what winning can hide from you 23:36 The Future Developer - how AI changes what developers do 26:38 Hiring Developers - what Craig looks for now
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