The B2B Podcast Index
Index
All categories
MarketingSalesSaaSFinanceHROpsLeadershipCustomer SuccessAI & DataProductStartups & FoundersRevOpsEngineering & DevTools
MethodologySubmit
Best of:MarketingSalesSaaSFinanceHROpsLeadershipCustomer SuccessAI & DataProductStartups & FoundersRevOpsEngineering & DevTools
An independent project byFame
SearchBest episodesGuestsInsightsMethodologySubmit a podcast
Index/Leadership/Let's talk Transformation : The business leaders podcast
Let's talk Transformation : The business leaders podcast artwork

#175 Transforming leadership : the Hidden Cost of Workplace Grief with Dr Angela Fusaro

Let's talk Transformation : The business leaders podcast · 2026-06-15 · 40 min

0:00--:--

Episode notes

When there is any deviation from expectations, grief show up, we just don't call it that... A brilliant conversation with Angela Fusaro, an emergency medicine physician and CEO, and our conversation completely shifted my perspective. Here is the powerful idea that really resonated with me: what if these feelings, these un-budgeted operating costs of change, are actually a form of grief? Not just the traditional grief we think of, but a “non-traditional grief” - any deviation from our expectations. It’s a game-changer for understanding how our teams truly function, and how we can manage navigating the unseen costs of organizational change as levers for business growth. We explore how acknowledging non-traditional grief can improve team performance and leadership identity in an AI-driven world. Our brains are wired for pattern recognition, and when expectations aren’t met, our brains interpret it as a threat. This kicks us into defensive & undesirable behaviours we often see: micromanagement, rumination, or even just general irritability. Naming it as loss or grief, rather than anger or frustration, disarms it and creates a path to deal with it constructively.

More from Let's talk Transformation : The business leaders podcast

All episodes →
  • #177 Transform Your Leadership: Mood, Mindset & Mastering systems with Chris Majer67 / 100
  • #176 AI & Inclusion: Design for an Equitable Future with Stephanie Sylvestre
  • #174 Lead with Purpose: Beyond Busyness to Soul-Aligned Work with Joanna Zhang
  • #173 Leading magnanimously: step back for a thriving team with Andrew Brummer
  • #172 Whole human leadership with Victoria Pelletier
Explore the best B2B Leadership podcasts →
All Let's talk Transformation : The business leaders podcast episodes →