Leman Tech Leadership Podcast · 2026-07-23 · 58 min
▶︎ #180 | Ditch the Shock Collar: Why Punishment-Based Leadership Fails (and What Works Instead) w/ Craig Taylor @Cyberhoot In this episode of the Leman Tech Leadership Podcast, Aleksandra sits down with Craig Taylor, Co-Founder of Cyberhoot, a learning management platform built at the intersection of psychology, education, and cybersecurity. With a psychology degree and over 30 years in the industry, including two decades working with Fortune 500 companies, Craig made a pivotal career shift 12 years ago after being let go from a major corporate role. That turning point led him to co-found Cyberhoot, where he applies behavioral science to a problem the cybersecurity industry has struggled with for decades: how to actually get people to care about security. The conversation opens with a question every tech leader has asked at some point: why do smart, successful people and organizations still treat cybersecurity as an afterthought, until something goes wrong? Craig's answer comes through a powerful analogy: the industry has been training employees like dogs with a shock collar, punishing mistakes with fear, shame, and fake phishing tests for 25 years.
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