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Meaning at Work vs Meaning in Work (Mike Ross, former CHRO at Simons, and Kahina Ouerdane, CPO at Workleap)

Leading Culture: Building the Future of Work · 2025-04-15 · 31 min

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What does it really mean to find meaning at work? And who’s responsible for it - you, your boss, or does it fall somewhere in between? In this episode, Kahina, Chief People Officer at Workleap, sits down with Mike Ross - former CHRO at Simons, partner at Juniper, and PhD researcher on the psychology of work - for a conversation about what truly makes work matter. From purpose-driven Gen Z to the misunderstood power of rituals, Mike and Kahina breaks down the difference between meaning in work vs. meaning at work , why culture is more than a buzzword, and how leaders can stop systematizing empathy and start showing up like actual humans. It’s an invitation to listen, reflect, and tap into the power of collective intelligence - because meaning at work isn’t something we find alone.

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