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The Leadership Divide (Episode 2): The Dark Side of Leadership

I Hate It Here · 2026-07-29 · 54 min

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Featured Guest: Jocelyn Hays (Director of Hogan Applications, Hogan Assessments) - You know that coworker who was perfectly lovely until they got promoted and suddenly became a completely different person? Yeahhhh….I think we’ve all been there. There’s a reason for that, though! I’m joined by Jocelyn Hays to unpack the dark side of leadership, the 11 derailers hiding inside basically all of us, why so many orgs get this wrong, and how the exact traits that help you succeed can become the ones ruining everyone’s day when you stop managing them. 00:00:00 - Intro 00:01:27 - What Does the “Dark Side” of Personality Actually Mean? 00:03:51 - The 11 Patterns That Can Derail a Leader 00:06:48 - How Do You React When You’re Under Pressure? 00:15:52 - Why Do Derailers Stay Hidden During Hiring? 00:22:05 - When Does a Strength Become a Derailer? 00:25:51 - Why Does Stress Bring Out Our Worst Leadership Behaviors? 00:34:08 - How Can HR Spot Derailers Before They Wreck the Culture? 00:44:14 - How Do You Tell a Leader They’re Ruining the Vibes? 00:49:22 - What Are Orgs Getting Wrong About Choosing Leaders? - Hogan Assessments is the international leader in personality insights.

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