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DevOps, AI, and the Future of Engineering with Patrick Debois

Hangar DX Podcast · 2025-09-19 · 40 min

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Patrick Debois - widely known as the “Godfather of DevOps” and co-author of The DevOps Handbook - joins Aviator CEO Ankit Jain on The Hangar DX Podcast to explore the parallels between the DevOps movement and today’s AI revolution. In this conversation, Patrick compares AI adoption to the early chaotic days of DevOps and shares his view on how developer roles are shifting from producers to supervisors of AI-generated code, why code reviews and specs still matter, and what the four key patterns of AI Native Development are. About Patrick Debois Patrick Debois is often called the "Godfather of DevOps" for his pioneering role in the movement that reshaped how teams build and ship software. He is the co-author of the DevOps Handbook and principal product engineer at Humans and Code. Patrick's work focuses on helping engineering teams become more productive with AI tooling, and delivering AI-powered products with engineering rigor and good practices. About Hangar DX ( ) The Hangar is a community of senior DevOps engineers and senior software engineers focused on enhancing the developer experience.

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