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Speaker A: Some caffeine, 100 milligrams. Caffeine.

Speaker B: Damn, that's kind of a lot, I think. I don't know. Good luck getting to sleep tonight. Yeah, 100%. Or, uh, at least it'll keep you at a REM.

Speaker A: It's really good, though.

Speaker B: I'll have to try one in the morning.

Speaker A: Yeah. For the perfect lift with no crash. This is a great option. I'm a. I'm a fan, but maybe I don't need that much caffeine at 5:00 clock at night.

Speaker B: Yeah. For breaking the fourth wall already. Not even into the regular show.

Speaker A: Yeah, I mean, that's. This is.

Speaker B: This is.

Speaker A: We're gonna learn how to podcast. One of these days, I'm gonna learn how to podcast.

Speaker B: That'd be good.

Speaker A: I mean, why. Why start now?

Speaker B: Oh,

Speaker A: all right. My back hurts from carrying this show. 3, 2, 1. Kevin, what's up, buddy?

Speaker B: Your back, hu. Carrying the show.

Speaker A: Yeah, it's killing me, dude.

Speaker B: Uh, yeah. Dang.

Speaker A: It's got these spasms, man. How are you, buddy?

Speaker B: I'm all right. Yeah.

Speaker A: Um, how was. How was the Noah Kahan concert in Philadelphia?

Speaker B: Uh, it's all right.

Speaker A: It was all right. Yeah. Anything notable to share?

Speaker B: Yeah, Ah, you know, I had to leave a little early.

Speaker A: Stomach issues.

Speaker B: It's got to be, like, an accident. You know, it's. It's got. There's no way, like, somebody like, oh, I can't miss this stomp clap. I can't.

Speaker A: Yeah, Stick season. You know, I can't miss. It's my favorite song.

Speaker B: Oh, stick. You know, you. You're familiar.

Speaker A: I actually watched a entire documentary, uh, where were you? On Netflix about.

Speaker B: Where were you. Where were you during Poop Gate?

Speaker A: I just love how big of a story this got. Like, I. I tend to think, why is this such a big story? Maybe that's my bigger question. Can you. Can you help me understand?

Speaker B: Because I think he address. I think it's because he addressed it.

Speaker A: Yeah, he put out a tweet.

Speaker B: And also, it's just like the. The video went crazy, which I didn't

Speaker A: know there was a video.

Speaker B: There is a video. There's like a tick tock or something that, like, okay, somebody's like, are you kidding me? And they pan to the. On the floor.

Speaker A: God, it's so.

Speaker B: So, yeah, that's the. That's poop gate 20. Uh, Philly poop gate 20. 26 is somebody could not make it to the bathroom at the Noah Khan concert and, you know, unfortunately, uh, relieve themselves on the floor if You're a

Speaker A: new listener to front and center. Uh, yeah. This is the first story we're starting the show with.

Speaker B: Yeah.

Speaker A: Poop Gate.

Speaker B: I mean, I really hope it was just somebody, you know, maybe they had.

Speaker A: What do you hope, Kevin?

Speaker B: I. I just hope it wasn't, you know, out of. I, uh, need to see this concert. I can't. You know, I can't.

Speaker A: My spot.

Speaker B: I can't leave. It was. I hope it was just like.

Speaker A: Yeah.

Speaker B: Oh, man. That, uh, concession stand sushi, uh, you know.

Speaker A: Yeah.

Speaker B: Made some things go haywire again.

Speaker A: I don't want to make this all about me and the Knicks and. Because we've been talking about the Knicks for three straight weeks. But there was a point at the parade where I was so deep in that.

Speaker B: Yeah.

Speaker A: I guess if I had a stomach situation, I, uh. There was no bathroom to be gotten to, so.

Speaker B: You should have been typed up.

Speaker A: There were. There were people there that were, uh. Yeah, diaper.

Speaker B: I know.

Speaker A: Wearing diapers, peeing in their pants.

Speaker B: Listen, it's, uh. It's something that you have to do in these New York City crowds. I've always talked about it, uh, for the hot dog eating contest. Although my, uh, My. My hydration strategy has always been pretty dialed, so I don't really need to do that. Yeah, um. Yeah, it is coming up. It's this weekend, but, uh.

Speaker A: Oh, that's right. Are you going?

Speaker B: I'm. I'm not. I'm not feeling it this year, to be honest. I think my problem. My problem is, is, like, last year, I got. I got the hat, and that's kind of like. That was kind of like the last. You know, that was kind of like the last box I wanted to check. I, um. To the. He got the hat, and it was,

Speaker A: uh, you know, nothing left to do.

Speaker B: Well, also, there's, like, you know, I think Joey Chestnut's a bit controversial this year.

Speaker A: Is he in or out?

Speaker B: He's in, but he, like, got arrested, and he, like, assaulted somebody. Allegedly.

Speaker A: Wait, what?

Speaker B: There was, like, an alleged assault in Indiana where he was, like, blackout drunk.

Speaker A: Oh.

Speaker B: And that doesn't really have anything to do with why I'm not going personally.

Speaker A: Pleading guilty to a misdemeanor battery in April after slapping a man at Joe's Grill in Westfield, Indiana.

Speaker B: Yeah, I mean, that's not why I'm not going. Um.

Speaker A: Interesting.

Speaker B: I don't know. I'm just, uh. You know, I'm just not feeling it.

Speaker A: That's fair. Listen, like, June.

Speaker B: June kicked my ass. I feel like June usually kind of, you know. Yeah, June usually kind of me up a little bit, but uh.

Speaker A: Yeah, it's been a bit.

Speaker B: You know, I gotta, I wanna, I'm gonna take this weekend and.

Speaker A: Yeah.

Speaker B: Chill and.

Speaker A: No, you don't need to.

Speaker B: Yeah.

Speaker A: Sort of fight through the crowds to watch Joey Chestnut eat lots of dogs and record, uh, high temperatures here in New York.

Speaker B: So I mean it would make it. It is kind of like, that is kind of the cool thing is like you go and you like, you, you endure this crazy heat because it was really hot last year and you know, unfortunately I did see some people hit the deck, um, which is kind of scary. But it's also like, you know, I'm him. Like I'm um, I'm built different. I can, I can withstand this New York City heat and you know, stand and you know, persevere and perspire and uh, you know, hang in there. But yeah, I don't know, this year I'm just kind of going for a chill ass fourth of July weekend. Yeah, I'm gonna, I'm gonna hit the beach as many times.

Speaker A: There you go. You know, it's a young man sport crowds I have. I hate to sound like an old guy, but when I was at the parade, I did have a moment where I was like, I don't know that I like being squished like this at this point in my life and I'm not sure that I have to. And I don't know why I, I just didn't. It. It wasn't something that I was gonna subject, uh, myself to again in the near future, even though it was one of the great days of my life. But.

Speaker B: Yeah, sometimes you gotta endure though. Like I feel like with the Knicks specifically that parade, like, no regrets, but

Speaker A: also it's just a lot of uh, it was just very tight crowds and next.

Speaker B: You'll skip it next year, you'll skip the championship.

Speaker A: One time is enough. And I think watching that Travis Scott documentary, those people getting crushed at the concert maybe altered uh, my brain a little bit to where I'm bit. A little, little afraid to be in tight quarters where people are just pushing me in and get. It's getting a little hot in there and I don't know, I just don't need it.

Speaker B: But it did look like a nightmare. Like some of the footage I saw, like it was, you know, crowds, lines backed up into the subway platform.

Speaker A: Yeah, pretty, but yeah. But back to Noah Kahan, like, so there was a tick tock about this and then Noah was like, I'm gonna put out a statement about this sort of thing being like, don't do this. He's funny. He's a funny guy. That's.

Speaker B: Is he funny?

Speaker A: That's part of his appeal is that he's a, he's humorous. He's a sort of every man. He's from the sticks of Vermont and so.

Speaker B: Okay, he's from Vermont.

Speaker A: Yeah, exactly. And that's kind of his brand. He's like, yeah, he's like a, he's, he's a self deprecating uh, humorist that makes ah, sort of the shittiest music on earth. The world's worst kind of like, you know, banjo.

Speaker B: Sorry, I actually don't really know. I haven't really listened to very much. I. The only, the only, the only little snippet I've heard is during the video where, there, where the poop reveal happens.

Speaker A: That was the first time, that's the

Speaker B: only time I've ever heard his music.

Speaker A: Wow, that's hilarious. Yeah, I mean I wanted to like, try to understand what his appeal was. And I watched a documentary and it seems like yeah, he, he, he grew up with some, you know, some childhood trauma in the form of parents getting divorced and wrote music about it. And like now he's like a pro mental health advocate and he seems like a good dude, like, seems like a nice guy and like. But the music isn't for me and he seems lovely, but I just don't totally get it. After watching an hour and a half documentary which is basically a commercial about

Speaker B: him, I was, I was stomping and clapping so much, the just fell, fell out of my drawers.

Speaker A: The poop came out.

Speaker B: Just, just rolled out.

Speaker A: Yeah, I mean, listen, I um, I heard this was a woman which was uh, plot twist of the century. I did not know that.

Speaker B: I really hope that for her sake they don't identify her.

Speaker A: Yeah, again, yeah, they might have already

Speaker B: identified her but you know, I think,

Speaker A: yeah, uh, I kind of feel bad for whoever this is. Like, I feel like bad things happen at concerts or like, you know, the lights are down and maybe you had a couple too many drinks and it's just like.

Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, exactly.

Speaker A: Who hasn't been there? Who uh, hasn't pooped on the ground at a, at a concert? So just like don't, you know, don't, don't blow up the spot. You know, kind of just like keep, you know, this can't be the worst thing to happen at a, ah, festival, right? This guy way worse.

Speaker B: It's hilarious.

Speaker A: It's Hilarious. But I feel like it's kind of

Speaker B: like at least nobody slipped on it.

Speaker A: That's fair. I mean, just, like, don't, don't, don't. Don't make it a big thing.

Speaker B: Nobody dox her.

Speaker A: He made it a thing. Yeah, the Internet, like, yeah, we don't need to know about this person. Like, just let it be.

Speaker B: But if she does get doxed, then I bet she. She'll be an influencer.

Speaker A: They'll be making AI videos. Like, the woman that got caught with the Nick's garbage can. Like, you know what I mean? That poor woman.

Speaker B: Yeah, that's tough.

Speaker A: I feel bad for her too, right? Like, I get. Like, the garbage can was kind of sick. And, like, definitely people were saying online, oh, people are gonna steal this. And then she stole one, and then we all made fun of her.

Speaker B: Yeah, I mean, the. Listen, the clip of her dumping the trash onto the street on the sidewalk, it's a. It's a really bad clip. You know, it's. I. I wouldn't personally do it myself. Like, you know, at least, like, turn away from the camera. Like, people are wilding out for the Knicks. Like, you know, and there's been an enormous amount of grace for everybody. Wilding out, you know?

Speaker A: Yeah, we should give this woman some grace.

Speaker B: Yeah, we should give this woman some grace.

Speaker A: Both the no woman and the J.P. morgan woman. Like, come on, cut these women.

Speaker B: Especially since she lost her job at, like, that sucks. You know, as an executive at JP Morgan for stealing a trash can, which, Yeah, I don't know, Kind of lame. I don't think you should lose your job for that.

Speaker A: So then, like, ruin JP Morgan's reputation. You know what I mean?

Speaker B: And then, so she lost the. Her job, and she. She returned the trash can. And then they started NY Sanitation started giving them out for free. Oh.

Speaker A: Oh, like sweepstakes. Yeah, I saw that they were sort of doing a sweepstakes. She returned the trash can. She should get her job back.

Speaker B: I know you. I think you. You either get the trash can or you have your job. And if you return the trash can, you make it right. Keep the job.

Speaker A: I agree completely. Also, uh, did you see the AI videos of, like, Jalen Brunson picking her up and, like, putting her into a garbage truck? Like, that's crazy. Like, she's just a regular person. She made a mistake. Like, let's not AI videos.

Speaker B: I know we got. We all get wrapped up and, you

Speaker A: know, want to steal stuff in the moment, which is.

Speaker B: I think it's totally fair.

Speaker A: Yeah. For those people out there that do want a trash can, though, you can buy one from only New York. But the truth is it's miniature. So you get either the sort of miniature, like the, the real trash can is like, you know, six foot trash. Yeah, whatever. Not six foot tall, but three foot,

Speaker B: three and a half. Yeah.

Speaker A: But the. So you can get like a, a 2 foot tall one, uh, for your office or you can get the pen holder, which is the one that I got.

Speaker B: Yeah.

Speaker A: So that's great. Yeah, I'll probably get in November, long after I've forgotten about all these trash cans.

Speaker B: But.

Speaker A: Yeah, I mean, not the feeling of the championship.

Speaker B: I hope neither of these things happen to me. Um, I don't think I could ever see myself emptying out a trash can on the street and stealing it.

Speaker A: You would not do that.

Speaker B: You know, I don't, I don't know. Yeah, people do crazy things and their team wins when their teams win championships and. Yeah. Uh, you know, let's just have some grace for this woman. And I know that, you know, people, she's been getting roasted.

Speaker A: So, yeah.

Speaker B: Heart goes out to her. I hope she's able to, you know, pick herself up and dust herself off and get another executive job, I guess. Yeah. Yeah. Sad.

Speaker A: She did pour a significant amount of garbage.

Speaker B: It was a full can. It was crazy.

Speaker A: It actually illuminated how much garbage is in a garbage can to me, which you don't really think about that.

Speaker B: I mean, it.

Speaker A: Wow.

Speaker B: It looked, it looked to be past capacity, which. It's a shitty thing to do. Yeah, 100%. Uh, don't, don't dump out trash cans.

Speaker A: It's bad. But, yeah, these, these poor, these poor people.

Speaker B: It's just, it's a tough, tough optics on both of these opening stories here.

Speaker A: Yes, for sure.

Speaker B: But heart goes out to them. Yeah, we, we feel sometimes you make a mistake.

Speaker A: Yes. But, uh, yeah, Kevin, uh, while these, uh, big stories were happening, we were at our, our team's off site, uh, going upstate. We were, uh, you know, sort of swimming in pools like we do, eating ribs. Kevin made a million ribs. More ribs than I've ever in one location. Uh, we watched the World Cup. I did not catch World cup fever. I tried. I really tried.

Speaker B: And, uh, I thought you, I thought you had it. I thought you were there. You watched a lot of it.

Speaker A: I tried. I mean, I really wanted to, cat. You know, obviously 5 billion people are watching this. There must be something enjoyable about this. And, uh, now that the, the Knicks are champions of the world and the Mets are The worst team in baseball. I need something, uh, other than Love island and the World Cup.

Speaker B: I just.

Speaker A: It's just so slow and boring.

Speaker B: You just. I think you gotta just catch one good game.

Speaker A: Yeah. In the US The. They lost the Turkey A in the last second. They played the backups, they played the scrubs.

Speaker B: That's whatever.

Speaker A: So I didn't really. I didn't get a good representation of USA Soccer. So I'm gonna watch again this week.

Speaker B: And the two previous games were pretty good.

Speaker A: Okay. That's the thing.

Speaker B: And then I'm sure Wednesday, uh, night's gonna be fire.

Speaker A: That's what I'm saying. Wednesday night knockout. I'm gonna watch that. If we win that game and then we win another game, then. Then this. This nation.

Speaker B: One game at a time.

Speaker A: One game at a time. Uh, how. How was your time in, uh.

Speaker B: I wish I went. I'm hating from outside the club, though.

Speaker A: You're hating from outside the Collins house.

Speaker B: I am hating from outside the Collins house. I can't even get in Collins.

Speaker A: Uh, house looks amazing. Kevin, uh, should we tell the people that you are a two time winning, uh, can. Copywriter. Is that. You have two lions?

Speaker B: Uh, is that true?

Speaker A: Yes, of course it's true. What do you mean? Yeah, you have two lions.

Speaker B: We, uh, breaking news.

Speaker A: We won them in 2021. I'm here to remind people. Oh, yeah.

Speaker B: All right. Never forget.

Speaker A: Never forget that we won, uh, Toucan Lines the only year that it happened on Zoom.

Speaker B: Yeah, that kind of sucks.

Speaker A: That definitely sucked. What do you mean? That was awful. And I told myself I wouldn't go back, but, yeah, go back to move forward. I said I wouldn't go back until we won again. Because, you know, when we did that and I was complaining about winning and it happening on Zoom, everyone's like, don't worry, you'll win again.

Speaker B: Yeah.

Speaker A: I was like, I don't want to have to win again. What do you mean? We won two now.

Speaker B: That's true, Covid. I. We should add a parade.

Speaker A: You know what the thing was? It was Covid. So they didn't have the show in 2020. They didn't have the show in 2021. It was a year. It was a year later. They could have had the Can Lions. We would have been out there on yachts drinking rose. Could have been us, Kevin.

Speaker B: Could have been us.

Speaker A: Uh, but, yeah, unfortunately. Oh, well, we haven't won any.

Speaker B: There's always next year.

Speaker A: There's always next year. But shout, uh, out to Jordan Esteban. Uh, sort Of.

Speaker B: Yeah, for sure.

Speaker A: Friends of the show. Uh, they cleared up.

Speaker B: They cleaned up, dude.

Speaker A: They won, like, all the cans. They won all the lions. They won the Grand Prix for your way out, which is, we can all agree, an absolute banger. They also won for everybody coinbase, which made everyone sing the Backstreet Boys at the super bowl, which.

Speaker B: All right.

Speaker A: Remember that? Yeah, Super Bowl. My party sang. Uh, so those guys are brilliant, and I love to see them collecting trophies and getting their flowers.

Speaker B: Absolutely.

Speaker A: Just.

Speaker B: And getting fits off.

Speaker A: Oh, my God.

Speaker B: Shout out to Jordan's, uh, white alligator boots.

Speaker A: Getting.

Speaker B: They may or may not have been alligator, but they were white.

Speaker A: They're getting incredible fits off in can. And that's, I think, the right place. And of course, that's the right way to do it. You should go there and, uh, you know, listen, someone invite me to go on your panel. That's what I'm saying. That's why I'm. I'm just pleading for. Let me.

Speaker B: Let me get up inside of that house. Let me. Let me stay in a spare bedroom. Let me sleep on the couch at the Collins house.

Speaker A: Dude, let me paddle, man. I'm. I'm ready to panel, but, uh, yeah, it looked cool. I did have a little bit of fomo, and, uh, yeah, it looks like a good time.

Speaker B: I mean, dude, hanging out in France. Yeah, that's awesome. Sure.

Speaker A: Yeah, let's do it. I'm. I'm. I'm here for it, and I'm. I'm jealous. But. Yeah, we got jobs to do, Kevin. And we have a podcast.

Speaker B: Yeah.

Speaker A: That people need to know about what's going on in the world of branding and design and culture, and that is our duty to the people.

Speaker B: What's going on?

Speaker A: Uh, Ben Stiller really ripped. Remember that?

Speaker B: Well, yeah.

Speaker A: What happened there?

Speaker B: So what happened is we got. We kind of lost the train. There was, like, a little bit of a continuous line here. We're gonna go next. We're gonna do, like, Nick's championship cleanup. But that's okay. We can. We can run it, and we can run it in random order.

Speaker A: Oh, yeah. Sorry, Kevin, I broke your producing. Uh, sort of.

Speaker B: No, it's okay. Um, it was supposed to go trash can, and then it was like, oh, did you see what else came out of the New York Knicks championship run is people realized Ben Stiller is ripped,

Speaker A: and he's been ripped some behind the scenes here for you guys. You can see how.

Speaker B: Yeah, this is how the sausage is made.

Speaker A: He visualizes the show in his head before the show happens.

Speaker B: I visualized it in Google Docs.

Speaker A: He really produced it. But. Yeah, so Ben Stiller is. Is super jacked. You know who also is jacked? I saw a video today. Ben, uh, sort of Mark Cuban.

Speaker B: Oh, really?

Speaker A: Yeah, I saw a video of him. He was shooting around, and he should be.

Speaker B: He's a billionaire with, like.

Speaker A: Exactly.

Speaker B: Time to burn. I don't know.

Speaker A: Yeah. And unlimited gyms.

Speaker B: Yeah.

Speaker A: And all he does is go and spend time with professional athletes.

Speaker B: Yeah.

Speaker A: And he probably has access to the best steroids money could buy.

Speaker B: For sure. He's probably on, you know, TRT and all that.

Speaker A: 100 maybe.

Speaker B: Allegedly.

Speaker A: Do you think Ben Stiller is on, uh, on the Juice?

Speaker B: I, uh, think he might be natty.

Speaker A: You think that he's natural, though?

Speaker B: Yeah, he's been like. He's been. Had a good physique, like White, uh, Goodman. Literally every character he's played is like, you know, Ben. I mean, he's. He's. Ben Stiller's been in shape. It's not. It's not new.

Speaker A: Five foot three.

Speaker B: That's how tall Ben Stiller is.

Speaker A: Yeah.

Speaker B: No way. Are you serious?

Speaker A: Yeah. Yeah. That's what the Internet is saying.

Speaker B: Five foot three? No.

Speaker A: Ah, yeah, that's, uh. He's. He just doesn't seem to be a giant guy.

Speaker B: Five foot three, though. That's short.

Speaker A: King.

Speaker B: I mean, salute to him.

Speaker A: But that. That muscle. Yeah, the photo. So the photo came out during the Knicks game, and he's obviously been in every game. He's doing an A24 documentary, uh, about the Knicks franchise of all time. I assume it's gonna leave.

Speaker B: And he's doing the HBO one on his phone.

Speaker A: No, that's the same one.

Speaker B: Okay.

Speaker A: It's an A24. Nick's documentary about the. The history of the Knicks. And he's recording it. The. The current. I imagine it's not all on his phone. I hope not.

Speaker B: I hope it is. That's fire. We record all our stuff here on our phones. So.

Speaker A: Yeah, just like Ben Stiller.

Speaker B: Yeah, just like Penn Stiller. For real. Ripped recording on phones.

Speaker A: So great directors.

Speaker B: We're just like him. For real.

Speaker A: We are. Um, so, yeah, they. This was sort of became a moment online where Ben Stiller's, like, arm became part of the story of how jacked he is. And so Stillers is the soda shout out to the good folks at Gander. And so they're using this moment to try to promote the soda. Good for them.

Speaker B: Yeah. I mean, he's ripped.

Speaker A: Yeah. For sure.

Speaker B: I, uh, want to Be like Ben you do.

Speaker A: I mean, he seems. He seems like he's living his best life. I can't say. I mean, I think this is a natural trajectory of man where, you know, sort of you become. You get to your 50s and 60s and then you decide that Incredibly jacked.

Speaker B: He's. He. He's been incredibly jacked.

Speaker A: I'm just projecting what I want.

Speaker B: Look at the archives.

Speaker A: I want to be the best shape of my life at 55. Just.

Speaker B: He was. He was so ripped in dodgeball as white Goodman.

Speaker A: Yeah, you're right. You're right. Yeah. Speaking of, did you see, um, Will, uh, Ferrell for Skims?

Speaker B: I did see that. It's good to see him coming out and getting, getting the mix a little bit more now.

Speaker A: Will Ferrell?

Speaker B: Yeah. I mean, I guess he had. He has been. I just haven't really seen him.

Speaker A: Yeah, I guess you're right. He's been kind of, uh, a little. I mean, he. I don't know how old Will Ferrell is, but he's got to be in his 60s now. That feels like a.

Speaker B: Probably.

Speaker A: I feel like he's given us enough.

Speaker B: Yeah, definitely.

Speaker A: I feel like, uh, we can let this man kind of just enjoy his life for a little bit. But he's back in a Netflix show that. Where he plays like a washed up golfer. Lonnie Hawkins. Yeah, is the name. Great name.

Speaker B: Hawk.

Speaker A: And so he. I guess he plays like a John Daly kind of golfer.

Speaker B: Um, post career, the puka shell necklace in the tan line was pretty fire. It's a great look.

Speaker A: The styling is pretty spectacular. Yes. And so to promote this, I guess they got Skims. They got. They. Can they convince Kim to sort of use, uh, their brand as a, as a promo, uh, uh, sort of partnership, uh, sort of moment. Uh, I don't know if I like that for her. It just kind of takes away all the. I'm not saying that skims has to be the most serious brand on planet earth, but it just feels like. I don't know, how much does Netflix pay Kim to basically use her brand to do promo for a Netflix movie? Do you get what I'm saying here?

Speaker B: No.

Speaker A: It's moneying the waters. The Skims brand, uh, sort of had a prestige effect to it, and now I know it could just be bought.

Speaker B: I don't know. Funny video. Uh, Go Burr. This. I'm all right with it.

Speaker A: I don't love it. It's kind of like LeBron we were talking about earlier, like, LeBron deciding to sort of like, end his Career at some random team. We don't know which one yet. But like, I feel like that's bad for the brand overall in the history.

Speaker B: He'll be our skims. Kim will be all right. LeBron will be all right. I, uh, wouldn't worry about him. Yeah, they always tend to land on their feet with their billions of dollars.

Speaker A: Yeah. His body says retire. A voice says, as per. As Pharrell puts it on the skims. Branded golf clubs. So they're doing like golf gloves and I don't know. I did see that hypebeast just launched. Hype golf. Golfing has become like a golf's now.

Speaker B: Hype.

Speaker A: Yeah.

Speaker B: Yeah.

Speaker A: I don't know. How do you feel about that, Kevin? You said.

Speaker B: I feel like it's been, I feel like it's been hype.

Speaker A: I don't know, like, I don't know outside of it.

Speaker B: You ever hear a metal wood?

Speaker A: Yeah, I have a belt.

Speaker B: It's a good brand.

Speaker A: I wear a belt almost every, uh.

Speaker B: That's a Hype Golf brand.

Speaker A: I do like that. I just like the belts, but. And I do like the brand.

Speaker B: Listen, I'd be good at golf if I played.

Speaker A: You were saying this the other day and we were driving back from the offset. You were saying that maybe there was a, A, uh, golf future for you.

Speaker B: Yeah, I just don't have the time or the, the resources at this current moment.

Speaker A: I could see you getting fits off on a golf course though, for sure.

Speaker B: Yeah.

Speaker A: Yeah. I think your brand in golf, uh,

Speaker B: uh, definitely I'd be hitting Those like uh, late 90s, early 2000s Tiger woods fits, you know, baggy, baggy polos pleated pants.

Speaker A: I could see that. Yeah, I could see. I could see this.

Speaker B: I wouldn't be wearing those shitty, yeah. Plastic Nike collared shirts that every, everybody in the south wears.

Speaker A: Mhm.

Speaker B: Yeah, no, I'd be, I'd be pimping it a little bit.

Speaker A: I could see it. But I could see this for you.

Speaker B: Yeah. No golf for me yet. I still have, uh, other. I still got other to do.

Speaker A: Yeah, You're a young man, you know, not like LeBron James who is. Yeah. Sort of eyeing the uh, sort of golf, uh, from his, from his uh, day job, dreaming of golf. But.

Speaker B: Well, yeah, I already. That's. That's. That's my skiing.

Speaker A: That's your skiing, Exactly. You have only so, uh, much room in your life for so many of these extra. For these extra activities. But uh, yeah, uh, listen, I want that for you, Kevin. I want.

Speaker B: Oh, thanks.

Speaker A: I, I Just think it's. I think it feels on brand.

Speaker B: Yeah. I love sports.

Speaker A: Yeah.

Speaker B: What can I say?

Speaker A: But also, you like chilling and like, you also like getting fits off. So I feel like all these three things kind of work together.

Speaker B: I like hitting balls.

Speaker A: There you go.

Speaker B: Yeah.

Speaker A: All the stuff. It could all be for you.

Speaker B: Definitely.

Speaker A: Um, you know what you also like, Kevin? The World cup glasses. Oh, I was going to go to glasses. Do you want to talk about the World cup promos and stuff like that? I mean, I mean, Kevin, you're in the doc. You say soccer is kind of cool.

Speaker B: Yeah, soccer is kind of cool.

Speaker A: Here are my power rankings of who I'm rooting for. So who are your power rankings?

Speaker B: Here's my power rankings.

Speaker A: Yeah.

Speaker B: Hit me at number one. Obviously. Gotta, gotta root for my boys. The U.S. okay. Um, and then, uh, in the next tier of people I'm rooting for, we got Colombia. Uh, watch them play Portugal on, uh, Saturday night. Very fire. The way they were moving the ball, the way they were running around.

Speaker A: Okay.

Speaker B: Had me pretty excited. They play an exciting brand of soccer.

Speaker A: Exciting.

Speaker B: Oh, I'm, um.

Speaker A: Uh, Congo is your third.

Speaker B: Oh, uh, yeah. Congo. Those fans are going crazy. They're wearing those big ass, like, Party City sunglasses. Very fire. They're having a good time and they had a couple sick goals against whoever they were playing on. Okay. Saturday night. And then, you know, got a roof for Ecuador, got some homies.

Speaker A: Where's Brazil? Brazil. And top of maybe the five. Who cares?

Speaker B: I don't really care that much about Brazil.

Speaker A: Democratic Republic of the Congo.

Speaker B: Congo's fire, though. They, uh, like, I feel like they're, they got that guy who stands still for the entire match to honor their, uh, their fallen, uh, president.

Speaker A: I'm really unfamiliar guy that stands still.

Speaker B: Yeah, you stand still like a statue with this, like, his hand up.

Speaker A: Oh, yeah. What?

Speaker B: They just got good vibes.

Speaker A: Sick suit too, on this guy for sure.

Speaker B: Wow.

Speaker A: Yeah, I, I was looking at some of the, the kits. I, I don't love America's kit, and I feel like we, we, we need to do better. We are a design podcast. We can talk about that. I don't mind the stripes. I just, uh, it just, uh, I

Speaker B: feel like the, the back is really, really bad.

Speaker A: It's rough.

Speaker B: I could, I could, I could live with the weird stripes on the front. If they, like, did something that wasn't just plain white on the back, it just seems like they, they gave up or like, I'm sure it's for, like, you know, visibility and like, Regulation, whatever.

Speaker A: Yeah.

Speaker B: But like there's got to be something, there's, there's something that could have been done, you know.

Speaker A: Yeah. To get the names and the numbers on there. There's probably some legibility thing and I just wish, I wish those uh, stripes weren't like quite as ah. A little too gradient. Yeah. I just want them to be flatter.

Speaker B: There's too much going on.

Speaker A: Yeah. I feel like we should be more of an, an iconic kit type. Not. They feel a little trendy.

Speaker B: Yeah, sure.

Speaker A: I think they look kind of cool on like fans though. I guess in some ways. Like, I don't know, like I see them and I'm. If I, if I was a World cup guy, which I'm not, um, I could see myself getting excited about, about buying one of those.

Speaker B: Yeah, I mean there's a lot of uh, there's a lot of real good uh, stuff going on merch wise, like from the World Cup. A lot of good collabs is all kid super McDonald's collab which I was kind of confused about, which was pretty cool. But you know, not M didn't make the show. I don't know. Everyone's doing some sort of like cool with the World cup.

Speaker A: It's the biggest. But you know what I'm, you know,

Speaker B: I'm more focused on is the boots. It's bootleg summer here in New York.

Speaker A: Oo, what kind of bootlegs are you seeing, dude?

Speaker B: I mean the Knicks obviously. Number one, incredible, great boots.

Speaker A: Incredible.

Speaker B: And then number two is uh, I mean I've been seeing a lot of World cup boots. I saw them on my way into it.

Speaker A: Yeah, interesting.

Speaker B: So somebody just posted up outside, um,

Speaker A: on Fulton just you know, just selling, just selling them.

Speaker B: I know I, I've heard of uh, some places selling some, some bootleg jerseys. So I like this, this is a good. Do you think I'm here for the boots?

Speaker A: Do you think the Knicks winning a championship and the bootleggers just making money hand over fist is going to inspire more bootleg merchandise to be sold on the streets of New York City? Because I hope so. I hope so.

Speaker B: You know, fanatics is, is just in such disarray and uh, I don't know if they're making this merch but m, they may or may not be, but seriously, they've opened up the door.

Speaker A: Interesting.

Speaker B: You know, because if they were on top of their, and they were doing, they were turning things out and they were getting things and making well made pieces of clothing. Mhm.

Speaker A: I like this theory.

Speaker B: I Like this theory market would be there. It's always there, of course. Would it be so prevalent? I don't know.

Speaker A: It's a good theory that if fanatics was on their, and making quality garments and good designs for, uh, for teams and for events like the Knicks championship, maybe the bootleggers wouldn't be able to make better things. Or we. The, uh, sort of appetite for the bootleggers wouldn't be quite so high. And because fanatics is bucking it up left and right, you might as well get the bootlegs because they're just as good. It's not better.

Speaker B: Definitely. I like that and I'm happy for the bootleggers.

Speaker A: Me too. I love a bootleg. Yeah, you love a bootleg.

Speaker B: Obviously.

Speaker A: One of my favorite shirts of all time, you got me is my DMX funeral bootleg that goes so hard. So, yeah, I got, I got, I got a Knicks Finals bootleg. I'm very happy about it. Yeah, I almost wore it today. Completely honest. Uh, did you see the messy statue?

Speaker B: Oh my God, the messy statue. So good. He's bouncing on the World Cup.

Speaker A: They had to know, like, I'm sorry, like, I'm calling, like, I've said this on this show so many times. They knew that this was going to be mocked endlessly on the Internet. There's just no way. I rather put a World cup trophy looking as phallic as it does between this man's legs while he's bending over as a statue without someone saying, this is going to, to make people talk about it online.

Speaker B: Yeah, I don't know. Uh, allegedly.

Speaker A: They have to be.

Speaker B: Allegedly. The guy was in a big rush or something trying to finish it.

Speaker A: It was a big rush. Building a 70 foot statue of Messi. How is that possible?

Speaker B: I don't know. It could just be, you know, out of the love of the game. You know, it's. From what I read, I think it's like unsanctioned or like, you know, it's just, it's not like, I don't think Messi was like, you know, a part of it or I don't think anyone with any sort of authority was like, yeah, let's, let's uh, let's make this. I think the guy was just like, guy just erected it, you know.

Speaker A: Bootleg statue.

Speaker B: Yeah, I think it's a bootleg statue.

Speaker A: Someone erected a bootleg messy statue in Argentina. Like, what the. It's so crazy.

Speaker B: It's a very remote town.

Speaker A: I mean, I guess, I guess then maybe that, then that only reinforces and supports my argument that they knew that this was going to be, ah, a lightning rod for, for, for drama and for, for humor and for. This is gonna go viral. I know.

Speaker B: I mean, they should have just painted pants on them. That's the, that's the easy fix.

Speaker A: That's not the fix. The fix is don't put the World cup trophy between this man's legs and have him bend over it.

Speaker B: Maybe it was supposed to be holding it, but they couldn't, they couldn't get it in time.

Speaker A: I mean, it's insane. Statue. It's insane. I. But that. I like that. It's a rogue, uh, statue. I didn't know that. Which makes it kind of funnier, but what a legend Messi is. Um, it reminds me, did you see this Supergirl? Uh, popcorn cup. Have you seen this?

Speaker B: Oh, yeah, I did see that.

Speaker A: They have to know. They have to know. You can't put a flesh colored jacket on a popcorn cup. And, and, and roll that out there

Speaker B: and think in that, in that proportion.

Speaker A: No, no, no, no, no. Like, I'm sorry. I'm calling bullshit. I see what you're doing out there. Movie companies.

Speaker B: Listen, they got us. They got you. Yeah, we got got. We're talking about it.

Speaker A: We're talking about. But apparently that movie is done terribly. Did you see that? Jonah Hill made a movie that, like, some streaming service deemed unreleasable.

Speaker B: What?

Speaker A: Like they, they just canned his movie that he put out. It's like him and Kristen Wiig or something, and they said it was unreleasable. How bad must a movie be to not be releasable? 2026.

Speaker B: Yeah.

Speaker A: Literally anything is releasable.

Speaker B: I know.

Speaker A: Damn. So I'm kind of like, now. I kind of want to see it now. I'm like, is that promo, is that promo for this movie that it's unreleasable?

Speaker B: Oh, my God.

Speaker A: Uh, it's so bad.

Speaker B: You might be on to something.

Speaker A: See, that's what I'm saying. You. I got my third eye open to all these flesh colored popcorn.

Speaker B: It's all promo. It's all, it's all one big promo.

Speaker A: Promo.

Speaker B: Damn.

Speaker A: Speaking of, uh, the logos need to be covered up at the World Cup. Talked about this, uh, Levi's did a brilliant one and now this Gillette one. Is this real? Did we find out this was real or not or. No, I think it's.

Speaker B: I think it's real.

Speaker A: I. Yeah, it's brilliant.

Speaker B: I, I believe it's real.

Speaker A: Yeah. You got to cover up your logo. So cover it up with Gillette, cover it up with shaving cream.

Speaker B: Threw some shaving cream on it. Yeah, I saw some stuff on Twitter about how they had to cover up every single, like, seat. Every single seat at Gillette has like a kind of like a branded, like, number plate on it with like the. This is like Gillette Stadium or something. Or has like some reference to Gillette Stadium or some. But they had to cover every single one of them up with tape.

Speaker A: That's ridiculous.

Speaker B: Which is so crazy. I don't know.

Speaker A: But I kind of.

Speaker B: FIFA's gotta chill.

Speaker A: I guess they. I do kind of get it. Like, it's funny, when we talked about on the show last week, I was kind of like, uh, viva. They should just let these companies, you

Speaker B: know, but they got money to make.

Speaker A: I got a lot of money. And, uh, you gotta. You know, every time a logo pops up on the screen of the World cup match, it's money to be made.

Speaker B: You gotta pay to play.

Speaker A: You gotta. You gotta cover up those. No free ads.

Speaker B: No free ads.

Speaker A: No free ads. But, yeah, I gotta. I'm still waiting to get the World cup fever. Um, Heinz did something very smart where they covered up their logo on their packaging.

Speaker B: I guess I don't. Is that like. It just seems like a. Oh, look at. Look at how we're getting in the

Speaker A: mix too, you know. Who wants to go back to Cannes next year?

Speaker B: Hinds.

Speaker A: That's what they're doing.

Speaker B: They're like, they need a seat at the. At the Collins house.

Speaker A: They're like, yo, we really. We want to be on. We want to be out there drinking rose.

Speaker B: No, honestly, idea wasn't. I don't think Brian Collins would have them. I don't think it's, uh. They're not really pushing the envelope very much. He did. I did actually see some good clip on, uh, on. On, uh, LinkedIn from Colin's house. And it was with the. Whatever. What show were you on?

Speaker A: Breaking and Entering.

Speaker B: Breaking. Entering is with those guys?

Speaker A: Yeah, those guys are killing it. Shout out to those.

Speaker B: Brian was like, oh, yeah. Like, you're really going to fly across the Atlantic Ocean to say, like, we need more humanity and AI. And I was like, good point.

Speaker A: Yeah, Brian, listen, I mean, uh, all of it looks great. I mean, I'm totally here for it. And like, honestly, this is a design podcast. We should say to them, like, kudos to them for making a moment, uh, in our industry, sort of. I feel like they dominated a lot of the conversation, obviously. A lot of what I get fed on my feeds is from designers. So of course like they're going to can and think, you know, posting stuff about design more so than advertising. But. But like of course there was like Spotify House and Adweek House and all the stuff. But like I saw Collins House like as the go to destination of can. And so that's sick for design agency to like dominate the conversation and have like a sick house with seal there and Will. I am like. They had Seal kiss from a rose man.

Speaker B: Wow.

Speaker A: Yeah. The seal.

Speaker B: That's uh, a. That's quite a get.

Speaker A: Yeah. Huge. You know, it's quite a get. Polymarket got Rick Rubin.

Speaker B: Oh my God.

Speaker A: Which I regret to inform you, goes incredibly hard. I have to say it.

Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah. I got mixed feelings about this one.

Speaker A: Yeah. People don't like prediction market brands. I get like that's fair.

Speaker B: I think it's ah, Fair.

Speaker A: Yeah. And you. Do you fall into that camp, Kev?

Speaker B: I mean I don't participate in prediction markets.

Speaker A: Me neither. But do you think they're evil? Like I feel like there's a lot of people that are like this. These are evil.

Speaker B: I don't know. I, I think, I think there's potential, uh, I, I don't know if you should be able to bet on, uh, you know, what the weather's gonna be. It seems, it seems a bit. But you know, I guess uh, people are, people are doing it.

Speaker A: So I mean, I guess if you have a problem with gambling generally, like, I think there's an argument to be made. Like I don't think that sports gambling or any other gambling is particularly good for society.

Speaker B: Yeah. 100 in any way.

Speaker A: But I, I don't know know. Again, this is a very uninformed position here. But like, I don't know that Ki and Poly Market are the devil for making people able to like bet on sort of like the Oscars or something or politics or other things. Maybe there should be some regulation on what you can and what you can and that, you know, sort of.

Speaker B: I think there needs to be some regulation on who they're putting these commercials.

Speaker A: I'm pretty surprised they got Rick Rubin. I mean I, obviously he is a, uh, sort of a, A creative guru. Yeah.

Speaker B: I wonder what the bag was like for him.

Speaker A: Yeah, I think that's the thing. It's like Rick Rubin does seem perhaps

Speaker B: a bit off brand.

Speaker A: But I did think that the combination of Rick Rubin, Runaway by Kanye West, Future, some giant flags. Yeah. And some cool art direction.

Speaker B: Yeah. I mean it's, it's a good, it's a Good commercial.

Speaker A: It spoke to me. It spoke to me. And as a, uh, As a Kanye west, uh, apologist for most of my life. Uh, retired. Retired Kanye west apologist. Um, yeah. Run Away. Just one of those songs.

Speaker B: It's a good song.

Speaker A: Yeah. And he's still doing concerts, which I think is confusing to me also. Another thing, um, that I found out this week, there's an artist named Don Toliver.

Speaker B: Yeah.

Speaker A: That I did not know about. That apparently is the number one artist in the world. Have you seen any clips from concerts or things?

Speaker B: No.

Speaker A: Uh, yeah, apparently people really like that guy. I was not aware of him.

Speaker B: Wow.

Speaker A: So shout out to Don Toliver. Uh, someone who. Oh, popped, uh, up on my feed and, uh, somehow is very famous. I. They have, like, millions of followers and almost like hundreds of people that I know follow him and sounds like, I guess he's kind of a Kanye West. Travis Scott disciple is kind of the vibe I get from him. It's like R and B rap guy.

Speaker B: Sure. No idea. Sure.

Speaker A: No clue. Um, what else we got to talk about?

Speaker B: Glasses.

Speaker A: Oh, fuck. The big story of the week. Yeah.

Speaker B: Big week for glasses.

Speaker A: It's a big week. Week for glasses. So this really started with Snapchat. And so that was what, last week? Which was. Yeah, last week. Snapchat. Um, Remember Snapchat, Kevin?

Speaker B: I do remember.

Speaker A: A picture or a video to a friend. It would disappear. Yeah. Uh, apparently people still use it.

Speaker B: Cool.

Speaker A: I interviewed for them once. I almost. I came very close to taking a job of Snapchat and I.

Speaker B: This could have been you. You could have been wearing this. You could have been behind specs.

Speaker A: And they tried doing glasses once. This is not the first time that they've tried glasses. I believe the first one.

Speaker B: If at first you don't succeed, try again.

Speaker A: Exactly, exactly. Because they're trying to figure out what Snapchat, a company that's. Was a sort of social media player, which I think they probably are still in the top 10, maybe top five, I think.

Speaker B: I think they've got a. A young contingency. I think they have a young user base.

Speaker A: I have no data here, but I think they have users. People use it to communicate.

Speaker B: Yeah.

Speaker A: And. But for some reason, they're hung up on glasses. Uh, and they're hung up on wearable tech, which I don't think makes a lot of sense for them. I don't even think it makes a lot of sense for Zuckerberg. But I think at this point, meta is like so many things that I guess it makes sense yeah. But Snapchat released there's new glasses which are augmented reality glasses, which to be honest, I'm going to just say it. This is what I have kind of always wanted. Like back in the day, it's for you. Google glasses came out and they were like, okay, you're going to be able to wear these fucking crazy glasses on your face. You're going to be able to walk around in the streets and things are going to pop up. Things are going to interact with the world around you. It's going to help you when you're in meetings or you're talking to someone. You're going to get some information, it's going to give you directions and you don't have to look at your phone. It will just be all in your vision, which I think could be really cool. That was a million years ago.

Speaker B: Yeah.

Speaker A: So the fact is that no one has tried to do this since and now Snapchat is trying to do it. The glasses look chunky.

Speaker B: Yeah. They are not good looking, but they don't look bad.

Speaker A: They just look thick.

Speaker B: They look like you need to be like a very attractive person to pull

Speaker A: them off with a lot of hair, A lot of hair to wear them. Also they're $2,000, which I don't think is like, obviously it's expensive, but compare them to like Apple Vision Pro, which those things you need to strap to the top of your head. Yeah.

Speaker B: And I mean it is probably a better invention than Apple Vision Pro. It's a better uh, wearable augmented real, Augmented reality reality experience than Apple Vision Pro is. Yeah, that's a good thing.

Speaker A: So I'm, I'm kind of going to defend them for a second because this is kind of what I've wanted. And so I'm kind of down for these in a weird way. Unfortunately the rollout got botched by their founders ears. So if you didn't see it, Snapchat comes with these glasses. They're $2,000 to do a campaign with like Jack Harlo and like Kaya Gerber and like all these famous celebrities wearing the glasses. Because that's now the way to get people to care about this kind of stuff. They're in black and white, they're shot by some famous photographer. Uh, apparently they look good, they look pretty good stuff. Snapchat invested $3 billion in these glasses to, to, to develop them. And so what's, you know, how much money they need to give, you know, Jack Harlow to wear them.

Speaker B: Geez Louise.

Speaker A: And they, and, and they come out And I think they could have maybe gotten some traction potentially, but they made a big mistake, which was they put Evan Spielberg, Saigel something, whatever, on TV to promote these things. And his ears appeared to be crushed by the weight of these glasses. Glasses.

Speaker B: Uh-huh.

Speaker A: Which immediately sent the Internet into. And he also looks like he has a bit of a small head, potentially. Yeah. I don't know how big this man is, but the glasses seem to be dominating his face.

Speaker B: Yes.

Speaker A: And that immediately became meme culture.

Speaker B: And it turns out his ear is just like that.

Speaker A: And so people were looking at the glasses, and his ear appeared to be folded down by the weight because I. They put most of the tech, I guess, in the. In the glasses themselves.

Speaker B: Yeah.

Speaker A: Because that's. It has to go somewhere. And apparently it's. It's going. It. See the. The, I don't know, the edges of the glass? What do you call those? The. The, I don't know, the glasses. The, uh, the legs of them. They're thick.

Speaker B: Yeah.

Speaker A: They're chunky ass legs on these glasses. And so his ears appear to be dominated by these glasses, and they appear to be folding over. And so people were just zooming in on them and then making them bigger and bigger and bigger. Uh, which was hilarious. And then he had to. He came out the next day and he said, hey, guys, this is what my ears look like without glasses on. They're just fucked up.

Speaker B: Yeah, that's. That's tough.

Speaker A: That's fudgeing tough, man. Also, another thing. Someone in the room should have been

Speaker B: like, hey, man, turn to the other side.

Speaker A: We need to find someone else to go on TV wearing these glasses.

Speaker B: Or. Hey, baby. Uh, let's. Let's go at. Let's. Let's get them from the other side.

Speaker A: I think it's both ears.

Speaker B: It's both ears. Oh, whoa.

Speaker A: I think. Or you should grow out your hair. You spent $3 billion on. On sort of building these glasses. Uh, we gotta. We gotta have some, uh. Because we gotta cover up those sort of, uh, those ears.

Speaker B: The crushed ear is a tough look. I. I can't lie.

Speaker A: But I'm interested in this and I'm. I'm. I don't know. Let's see. Watches, space. But it doesn't look like it's going so well.

Speaker B: Yeah, they said the stock, uh, dropped like 10 immediately, which is not a good sign for a product roll out.

Speaker A: Yeah, they just look thick. They just look. They just look 30 too thick. And I mean, if you look. If they look big on, like Jimmy Butler's head who is a professional athlete. Probably six foot eight or something.

Speaker B: Probably six, seven, six, seven.

Speaker A: Um, they're probably gonna look pretty crazy on the average person.

Speaker B: Yeah. I mean, Jimmy's got so much sauce.

Speaker A: Look at, look at those.

Speaker B: Oh my God. Look at crushing his ear.

Speaker A: They are, they're crushing his ear. So these are, these are too big.

Speaker B: These are too big. I was doing a little poking around on uh, the specs website today. Just, you know, in research and to try to get prepared.

Speaker A: Yep.

Speaker B: And uh, let's just say I every like third post I see now anywhere online is about specs.

Speaker A: Really.

Speaker B: It is following me. I, I did like the, I did the virt actual try on which you know, you did.

Speaker A: You put it in the dock, which is hilarious. They kind of look good on you. They do.

Speaker B: Yeah. I should get another pair of uh. Yeah, I need more tech on my face. For sure. I should definitely get these.

Speaker A: Mhm.

Speaker B: I definitely, I definitely want to pay, uh, 2100 for them.

Speaker A: Yeah. Well, I'll buy them for you.

Speaker B: Oh great.

Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. You want them? I got them, dude.

Speaker B: Oh, thank you.

Speaker A: Yeah, they're on the house.

Speaker B: And then I saw they, they had this like virtual basketball game which is like as like a 12 year old. You know, when you're like in your kitchen, you know, going in between the legs and then, you know, shooting, uh, is very cool. But then is it, you know, I mean, like if I was.

Speaker A: If you're 12.

Speaker B: Yeah. It's like literally I'm imagining dribbling a basketball when I'm 12 in my living room and, and hitting a freaking clean swish. Um, but you don't even need to imagine anymore. You can just do it on these glasses.

Speaker A: Wow, that's so sick. If only basketball could be an immersive sport where, uh, you know, I could somehow get some third experience from shooting a ball wearing a pair of eight, uh, pound glasses on my face. Yeah. Um, not to be outdone, Zuckerberg came back the next day maybe 24, 48 hours later and was like, hold my beer. We got Kylie Jenner and uh, we got cool looking glasses. They look way cooler and they do look way cooler.

Speaker B: They look way cooler on me, but they. I also virtually tried them on sick dude.

Speaker A: Uh, MET has been doing this partnership with Ray Ban for what feels a couple years. Essentially the concept is cameras and glasses. Cameras and Ray Bans, which.

Speaker B: And Oakley's.

Speaker A: And Oakley's, which.

Speaker B: Cameras in exotica branded glasses.

Speaker A: Exactly. Which I think are cool for sport. Like we talked about, like The Oakley glasses. Like, if you're out there snowboarding, boarding, skiing, doing some sort of activity, bike riding, like, I think it's kind of sick. But in everyday life, having sunglasses or glasses that record people unbeknownst to them, like, what, what, what? I just don't understand the benefit of that. I just don't understand when and where I would want to do that.

Speaker B: Yes, I agree with you completely. Um, I think there's like some, you know, weird privacy issues and whatnot.

Speaker A: Yeah.

Speaker B: Uh, and even wearing them, it's just like, you know, for what I gotta, I'm obviously not recording, but like, you know, like I go to the bathroom. What? I gotta take these glasses off now.

Speaker A: Yeah, they're probably watching. And uh, yeah, I don't trust Facebook with anything meta whatever now.

Speaker B: And you know, obviously I've recorded myself going to the bathroom in the wilderness, of course, you know, but like walking in concert, right? Yeah, like going into a, like a, a bathroom in a lodge. It's just like. Yeah, all right. Like, I swear I'm not recording. Like there's a light, you'd see it. I'm not, I'm not, I swear.

Speaker A: Yeah, you know, I mean, I think the one thing about this is like the Kylie glasses are uh, just another style of cool looking sunglasses which again, Ray Ban and Oakley. And then like this as like more of like a fashion sort of, uh, sort of style. Makes sense. I saw some video of Kylie doing like a POV content like video like a day in her life shot with these glasses. And basically it's just like her assistant coming up to her and like giving her flowers and like, so it's like, why do we need this?

Speaker B: Slap those on the assistant. I'd rather see what she's doing.

Speaker A: Well, that's the thing. It's like no one wants to see what Kylie sees. We want to see Kylie.

Speaker B: That's what she's sitting around on the couch, watch, uh, looking at her phone, asking people to bring her things.

Speaker A: Yeah. Going to meetings and talking to people that are waiting on her and foot like, sure. Like, I guess Zuck finally figured out that if you want people to uh, be interested in things, you got to go to the Kardashians. Which is what? Netflix and everyone else, everyone's doing that. So I guess. But I just don't understand like meta glasses. And this is where I like, I don't, I've been confused by this for years. Like, I just don't understand the benefit. I don't want them. I don't Want to record things from my face. No one needs that. Where. At least the ar, Snapchat, you know, sort of, you know, goggles. At least I'm getting potentially some sort of experience.

Speaker B: But, like, do you want. Do you want that, though? Like, I feel like it's embarrassing if you were to be like, oh, uh, like, I don't know if I'm sitting in a meeting and I'm like, you know, consulting my AR glasses. Like, I feel like that's embarrassing.

Speaker A: I want that technology to be seamless in my.

Speaker B: Just go on your phone like an adult. I just whip out your phone and look down.

Speaker A: But I think that's. But that's, uh, that's bad too. Like, and I want to be doing less of that when I'm talking to someone. So I want it to be stealth. I want it to be in my contacts or in my glasses.

Speaker B: AR is the last thing you need.

Speaker A: That's what I know I want.

Speaker B: You'd be checking Slack messages on your, uh, specs.

Speaker A: I want to be recording this podcast while reading my emails over here and then over on the left side looking at my text and over here looking at sort of my Instagram likes. And yeah, I want to be doing all this in my field of vision, dude.

Speaker B: Fair enough.

Speaker A: But that's what I'm saying. That was a promise 15 years ago. So this is the best we got to was 8 pound glasses on Jimmy Butler's face.

Speaker B: Listen, I'll take, I'll take the, uh, meta glasses any day of the week. They. They've produced some good clips for me.

Speaker A: Yeah. Which I, I get. But I just, I don't have that feeling that I want to have, Kevin, where I'm like, I need those. I want those. And I had that for Google Glasses in 2012. Like, I had that and I was like, this is sick. Like, they were futures here. They were way out of their time. Also, they. You kind of looked like a sort of sci fi robot. Yeah, that shit was wild.

Speaker B: They're kind of hard.

Speaker A: Those were way thinner than these glasses.

Speaker B: Definitely.

Speaker A: So where's Google at? Where's Google at with the Google glasses? Yeah, I don't know, dude. That was a prototype that I think they even sold those.

Speaker B: Definitely.

Speaker A: Where are we at Google? So I, uh, think that's. That's maybe the place to end the show. Uh, technology is not advancing fast enough. That's. That's my big take. Dave and Buster is out here doing raves. Good for them. And Mountain Dew is bringing back 5 cent Mountain Dews promoting um, their old cans. Sure. Good for you guys. Is that.

Speaker B: Yeah.

Speaker A: How do you feel about that, Kevin?

Speaker B: What? Mount five cents.

Speaker A: I'm.

Speaker B: I'm happy to see anything. I don't even. I can't remember.

Speaker A: Me neither. Not. Not a fan. Not a fan of Mountain Dew.

Speaker B: I never really had. Yeah, I never really had a Mountain Dew phase.

Speaker A: Nah, me neither. Didn't really.

Speaker B: I was more of a Dr. Pepper.

Speaker A: Me too.

Speaker B: Dr. Pepper and Coca Cola.

Speaker A: M. Yeah, me too bro and Pip.

Speaker B: You know pib.

Speaker A: Me too. Shout out to uh, shout out to Hubber matcha Sparkling matcha lemon yuzu. I'm um, going to be up all night, but wow. Delicious.

Speaker B: Worth it.

Speaker A: Worth it for this podcast for the people. Thank you guys for listening. Welcome to all the new listeners. This is uh, our show Friend Center.