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College Ambassador Programs, 6 Month Check-In + Founder Fomo

Female Founder World · 2026-07-02 · 34 min

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Key moments - from our scoring

Substance score

31 / 100

Five dimensions, 20 points each

Insight Density7 / 20
Originality6 / 20
Guest Caliber4 / 20
Specificity & Evidence9 / 20
Conversational Craft5 / 20

This group chat episode addresses two critical challenges for female founders: managing FOMO (fear of missing out) around industry events and executing college ambassador programs. Paige from Benny articulates the persistent founder anxiety around missing major trade shows like Cannes Lions and major cities like New York, while Jasmine counters with pragmatic advice: build deep networks locally and establish a body of work before chasing events. On the tactical side, the team unpacks college ambassador best practices drawn from Amanda Zuckerman's (Dormify founder) workshop. Key insights include treating ambassador programs as brand awareness plays rather than cheap acquisition channels, using tiered structures for ambassadors, affiliates, and influencers, and leveraging tools like Social Ladder and Tyb to manage applications and track referrals. The conversation acknowledges a fundamental shift: college students now expect paid compensation (reflecting broader professionalization from NIL deals in college sports), making sampling-only programs outdated. The episode closes with a transparent six-month check-in where founders reflect on unmet goals around team scaling and revenue targets, reframing "failure" as data gathering.

Key takeaways

  • →College ambassador programs are shifting from free/product-based incentives to paid positions, as campus students increasingly understand their influencer value and brands like Celsius are offering premium experiences.
  • →Building a robust college ambassador program requires focusing on brand awareness and buzz over direct sales, with platforms like Social Ladder helping manage large cohorts and track referrals through gamified point systems.
  • →Set timelines on outputs and actions you can control (like content creation and outreach) rather than on outcome goals, which helps mitigate disappointment and maintain momentum through uncertainty.
  • →Founder FOMO is real but often counterproductive - focus on building a strong body of work and becoming excellent at your craft before attending major industry events where networking is most valuable.
  • →Creating your own version of exclusive brand experiences (watch parties, in-home brand trips with friends) can build community and extract value from trends you can't physically attend.

Topics in this episode

Gen Z marketingCannes LionsDormifyBennyBeach Street SwimSocial LadderTybCampus ambassador programsFounder FOMOBrand awareness metrics

Questions this episode answers

What makes an effective college ambassador program according to Dormify's Amanda Zuckerman?

Amanda recommends focusing on quantity over exclusivity, creating tiered structures for college ambassadors (free/incentive-based), affiliate partners (commission-based), and influencers (content creators), using tools like Social Ladder to manage applications and track referrals, and offering rolling applications year-round rather than seasonal ones.

Why are traditional college ambassador programs with only free product no longer working?

College students now have full course loads, jobs, and sports commitments, and increasingly understand their influence has monetary value (influenced by NIL deals in college sports). Brands must now offer cash compensation or substantial access/experiences to compete, not just discounts or free samples.

How should founders approach FOMO about missing major industry events like Cannes Lions?

Focus first on building a strong body of work and becoming known for your craft, then attend events from a position of strength where you have something meaningful to discuss. Attending too early without a notable portfolio wastes money and time networking when no one is interested in talking to you.

What are the key differences between college ambassadors and influencer partnerships?

College ambassadors may not be content creators and want access and freebies; influencers have large reach, professional content creation skills, and expect affiliate links or cash as compensation with proper #ad disclosures; affiliates earn commissions on referrals.

How did Dormify manage 1,500 college ambassadors at scale?

They used Social Ladder to gather applications, screen out fakes and age-inappropriate users, deliver onboarding materials and unique referral codes, and gamified engagement by awarding points for social follows, newsletter signups, and referrals that converted to free product rewards.

What our scoring noted

Our reviewer’s read on each dimension, with quotes from the episode.

Insight Density

7 / 20

A handful of actionable specifics emerge around ambassador program tiering and tools (Social Ladder, TYB) and a reframe on output vs. outcome, but these are bookended by extended FOMO commiseration, product swap segments, and sponsor reads that dilute density considerably.

there are like college ambassadors, affiliate partners and then influencers and they all have these different motivations, they all have different program structures
what you need to put the timeline on is the output and what you can control

Originality

6 / 20

The output-vs-outcome mindset reframe and the observation that college ambassadors are professionalizing similarly to college athletes are mildly interesting, but most takes - focus on your craft, building community locally, content over pop-ups - are well-worn founder advice with no first-principles argument behind them.

I think maybe the same thing is happening with college kids understanding the influence that they have on culture and that they should be getting paid for that
what you need to put the timeline on is the output and what you can control. Because I do think that I can spend a lot of time thinking we haven't hit X, Y, Z

Guest Caliber

4 / 20

All three voices are early-stage DTC founders or contributors with no demonstrated scale; the most cited practitioner expert (Dormify's Amanda Zuckerman) is absent and only paraphrased secondhand, removing any ability to probe her knowledge.

I'm Natalie. I'm a team member at Female Founder World and I'm also the founder of Beach Street Swim.
I am one of the co founders of Benny and very lucky to be a contributor here at Female Founder World.

Specificity & Evidence

9 / 20

There are genuine concrete data points - 1,500 ambassadors, a named tool (Social Ladder), Celsius flying Canadian ambassadors to Florida, Bethany Frankel visibly driving sales - but large stretches of the episode are anecdote-driven with no metrics, timelines, or dollar figures attached.

Celsius would fly our Canadian campus ambassadors to Florida for training and they would have like the most fun
they had like 1500ambassadors when we spoke with them and um, you know, built a multi million dollar brand, ended up being acquired

Conversational Craft

5 / 20

The group-chat format produces warm, affirming exchanges but almost no substantive follow-up or challenge; questions are broad and open-ended, claims go unprobed, and agreement dominates over interrogation.

What was something that is working that you didn't expect? Uh, or vice versa?
What were some goals that you set for yourself at the beginning of the year and where are you in hitting them?

Conversation analysis

Computed from the transcript - who did the talking, and the words that came up most.

Share of words spoken

  • Speaker A56%
  • Speaker B23%
  • Speaker C21%

Most-used words

founder20love20feel19content18brand17college17show16ambassador15different14back12campus12program11paige10fomo10jasmine9trying9

Episode notes

Jasmine, Paige, and Nat are back together for your weekly group chat show by Female Founder World, and they're kicking things off with a very real conversation about founder FOMO, why being everywhere at once is overrated, and what to do instead. This week they're getting into college ambassador programs, what actually works, what doesn't, how the big brands are doing it, and the tactical advice Jasmine pulled from Dormify founder Amanda Zuckerman on building a program that scales. Then, they're doing a full six month check in: where everyone's businesses actually are versus where they thought they'd be, why Jasmine is doubling down on content and simplifying everything, why Nat's reflections on pop ups, and the mindset shift that's helping them stay focused for the second half of the year... outputs over outcomes. Here are some thought starters to do your own 6 month business check in: What did you think this business would look like by June, and how far off were you? What's working that you didn't expect to work? What have you deprioritized since January? What's the hardest decision you've made this year, and would you make it again?

Full transcript

34 min

Transcribed and scored by The B2B Podcast Index.

Speaker A: This episode of Female Founder World is presented by omnisend. Hi everyone. Welcome back to Female Founder World. I'm Jasmine. I'm the host of the show.

Speaker B: I'm Natalie. I'm a team member at Female Founder World and I'm also the founder of Beach Street Swim.

Speaker C: And I'm Paige. I am one of the co founders of Benny and very lucky to be a contributor here at Female Founder World.

Speaker A: So this week we have another episode of our group chat podcast. If you're liking this new format, please drop us a comment. Leave a review. Uh, this is very much an experiment. We were doing, ah, a 12 week season. This is now, I think, week 13. We've decided to keep it going. We are going to pick back up with the interview episodes as well and we're thinking we might alternate between these different formats. So I'd love to know your feedback, what you would actually like to see more of from the show. And if you like the group chat episodes and you want more of them, please drop a comment on this episode and let us know. I actually received a really lovely message and I wanted to start off the show by calling this out. It was from the founder of, uh, Blunt Cases is the brand. And it just. When I get these DMs, I do read all of them. I try to respond to as many of them, uh, as we can and all of the ones that, um, that come through my personal DMs, definitely. But this founder said that we met at Female founder world in 2024 at Summit and she's the founder of Blunt Cases and she started the brand when she was in college. She's grown to a $10 million plus women's lifestyle brand. And she said, I just wanted to thank you. Your podcast helped me through some challenging stages of building honest conversations about entrepreneurship. Made the journey feel a lot less lonely. I'd love to stay connected and I just wanted to share that with you guys. I loved that so, so much.

Speaker C: No, there's so many Female Founder World community members that are crushing it, seriously. Jasmine shares the screenshots of the DMs always. So please keep sending them. We love it.

Speaker A: We love it. It honestly, like, keeps us going. All right, let's get into the first, uh, segment. Paige, what are you bringing to the chat today?

Speaker C: Oh my gosh, it's, uh, it's fomo I bring to the chat. I, I could say I had like, the joy of missing out that some people do. And I think a lot of founders I know and I'm sure listening can relate to this, of feeling so much FOMO this time of year, any time of year, specifically, you guys, I had the craziest can fomo. I want to talk about it right now. It's m. Fancy food in New York, this big trade show in New York. I have FOMO for that. And I feel like I'm perpetually dealing with this, like, fomo. Um, I live in Toronto, wanting to be in, like, an even bigger city, a bigger country. I think this feeling of founder FOMO is, like, always on my mind and I'm sure it's relatable for so many of you guys listening. Um, I know, Jasmine, you've given me really good advice on this, actually. I don't know if you have. I.

Speaker A: What did I say?

Speaker C: I quote this to my co founder, actually, all the time. So I was complaining. Not complaining, lamenting, um, about living in Toronto and just how I need to get to New York. And you said, just build your network in Toronto. You're not always going to be in Toronto. It's a great city. And I think there's a lot to that of, like, no matter where you are, there is something going on. And I think nurturing that, you know, that community and the relationships there can be a superpower in a way that I know I needed that reminder and I come back to that all the time. Do you remember that, Jasmine?

Speaker A: Yeah, I do remember that now. That was good advice for me.

Speaker C: It was. It always is.

Speaker A: Uh, I think this would be such a good time for us to drop our summit tickets because everyone wants their thing. Like, everyone wants to have their thing that they're planned and that they're looking forward to and going to. We're not ready yet, guys. Soon. Um, but I. I get it. I definitely felt that a little bit around can this year, but I'm. I'm breastfeeding a baby. He doesn't take the bottle. Like, I'm going absolutely nowhere until she's taking the bottle more consistently. And just need to accept that I

Speaker B: think it's impossible for everyone to be everywhere all at once. But you feel like when you're in it and you're in control, especially when you have a small team, you're like, what? More like, yeah, I need to be involved in everything. But it's so real. But even for small businesses, like, I'm going through that right now. I never really experienced it before because I never had a business of my own other than being a content creator, which is like FOMO in itself. But no matter if you're a content creator, if you're a business owner, there's always that comparison. And I don't know, the founder FOMO is so real. I was doing some pop ups which I talked about last, um, last week in our chat. And in my head I'm thinking, like, I'm gonna have a wraparound around the block, like, like the roads, like the Jerf avenues, like the Dairy Boys. And when it doesn't pan out to what you see online, you're like, oh, have I failed? Am I doing it wrong?

Speaker A: Like, you launched five minutes ago.

Speaker B: No, exactly. But like, you're doing so well. Oh, thanks, Jasmine. No, we're doing great. Like, we're doing great. It's just like that's what you see online and that's the goal and like, that's not an easy thing to achieve.

Speaker A: A lot of the time when you see these event like, um, like Cannes Lions or the big, like trade shows, you'd be going and you wouldn't be ready. I think if you're feeling that fomo, like, you don't want to be spending all this money to go and all this time to go to these events and be constantly networking up. You need to get to a place where you have a body of work I think that you're like, really proud of. And I don't want to tell people not to, you know, put themselves out there and like, try new things, but I do think there's something to be said for focusing on becoming really and really good at the work that you're doing and then going to these kind of moments where you can like, network a little bit more laterally and have something that you've built rather than not being invited to any, any of the actual events once you're there and like, no one's interested in talking to you, you know, Like, I do think that focusing on the work that you're doing and becoming known for that is, is the thing that you should, you know, put those blinders on, get rid of that phone, focus on becoming really good at your craft.

Speaker B: I love that, uh, advice, Jasmine. That's really wise.

Speaker C: It's true.

Speaker B: Why even, like, why would you want to spend all that money and then like, feel like you're lost in the sauce a little bit when you get there? I want to turn this suggestion into like more of a fun, creative, positive note before we move on. I feel like just because you're not in the room doesn't mean you can't extract value from the moment. So if you are a small business and, like, you're seeing these influencer brand trips. Like, have a brand trip with your friends at your house and, like, make a joke out of it. Or, like, use something, have a watch party. Like, you know, something like that. If you can't be on the red carpet, have your own with your friends and incorporate your product. If you have a product. Um, and then if you're, like, more of an aspirational brand, you can think of, like, different ways to do this that may not be, like, as silly, you know? So I do think that you can still be, like, involved without being in the room in your own way until you're at that point.

Speaker A: I actually love that. I think that's such a good idea.

Speaker C: No. So good advice.

Speaker A: Let's move on to the next topic that we wanted to cover. And it's. We're in the middle of summer right now, but pretty soon it'll be back to school fall. All of the things happening around that messaging, and that is the time that the college ambassador programs are really kicking off. And so I wanted to have a chat about who's doing college ambassador programs really well, what we're doing right now to get those ambassador programs going. Something a little bit more, like, tactical and meaty that people can take away from this conversation. Paige, I know that this is something that you're thinking about a lot, so I'd love to know what you're doing at Benny to prep for back to school. And then I also have some really practical advice to go through from, um, the founder of Dormify, uh, Amanda Zuckerman. She did a workshop for us a little while ago before her business exited. And, um, she had some amazing advice about how to grow through ambassador programs. Paige, why don't you kick us off with what you're thinking about right now?

Speaker C: Yeah, no ambassador programs. I'm like, oh, my God, we're already, like, behind, I feel like, of where we would love to be for all of our ambassador planning. So we've two years of ambassador, like, programming at Benny, and I will caveat. I've tried to replicate a lot of what we see in the US In Canada, and I don't think it's, like, bad per se, but it is definitely different. I think we don't have the same, like, you know, American, like, campus culture, but it's always been a nice thing to have. And I think there's not a lot to lose that, uh, we've tried two or three, three different kind of, like, programming. And now what I found really does work for campus Ambassador, like what I would recommend for a brand. And this would work if you're cpg, a lower cost item, um, like specifically food and beverage really works because you can do a lot of sampling. I think campus ambassador works in our experience, when you want to do a lot of sampling, you want that high level brand awareness, but you have to kind of step backwards that like your campus girly often does not have a lot of disposable income to spend. Also doesn't have a ton of time to commit. So we've done done kind of like in the past almost like gamifying an ambassador program where depending on the different actions they're redeeming, you know, like a Benny sweatsuit or like just product and things like that. So like if they're posting, you know, on their Instagram stories, they're redeeming this. And it seems all very simple. But adding that as another to do on these campus girlies to do list I think is super hard. Especially when we're not offering cash. I think they're so motivated by cash, which is super fair. So that was like an okay experiment and it worked just fine. Brought in some really engaged girls to our community. But like, not what I maybe would have expected. But now what we do for campus ambassadors, we'll see if we bring it back this year. But what has really worked is working with not as many as we can, but working really deeply with like three or four or five core schools having campus leads, we call them at different schools, they host their own events. Like they're almost like an intern. And we actually pay them. Like I kind of think at some point you almost have to pay them. Before the show, we were just chatting like our campus ambassador program still a thing. And you guys, it's insane what the big brands are doing. Like our campus ambassadors would come to us almost with their like tail between their legs about what their friends are getting from like Celsius would fly our Canadian campus ambassadors to Florida for training and they would have like the most fun. And they were like, can we do something like that? No. So it's still happening? Definitely still happening.

Speaker A: Oh, wow. What are you saying now?

Speaker B: It's so hard to move the needle if there isn't a lot of budget. I think in the past people could get away with a ton of sampling and just presence on campus. Especially going to a pretty big like college that had uh, a just a very tight knit campus culture. We saw so many programs like that. And I remember at the time Bumble would host like these frat things and these, you know, football pre games and watch parties and they were so relevant at the time and I don't think that they probably had to throw a lot at it. It just because like there wasn't, there wasn't a lot of competition amongst other brands. Now I do think that just throwing a discount code at a college student isn't going to really do that much because they're taking a full course load. A lot of people have jobs, a lot of people play sports, A lot of people have a budding social life. And I think you have to really think deeper and I'm curious to see Paige, how it goes with like thinking deeper with less. Um, but it's hard to compete and I think that people think it's like a cheaper way to access a lot of people and I don't necessarily think that's true.

Speaker A: M Interesting. I, I spoke with Amanda from Dormify and this is um, this workshop is actually available for paid members. You can go, go back and watch it in your business. Um, Bestie Dashboard. And Amanda started a brand called Dormify. She basically, you know, it was like a college bedding brand. They've been acquired actually since this workshop happened. And she started in 20, 2010 for millennials and has managed the generation, um, shift to Gen Z. And one of the ways that she's been able to do that is through this college ambassador program. And they, I think they had like 1500ambassadors when we spoke with them and um, you know, built a multi million dollar brand, ended up being acquired. It was a really, really successful strategy for them. I just wanted to share some of the stuff that I thought was really clever and helpful from her strategy. And the first thing that she said was the whole point of a college ambassador program, like your, your metrics that you're looking for. It is like brand awareness and buzz and noise and it is like that thing that's like harder to quantify and you want your college ambassadors or your, you know, your leads, like you're talking about Paige to be those eyes and ears on the ground. She also said that investors love it and they really expect it and that they're kind of like looking for that as part of your strategy if you're raising money and you're trying to, if you're trying to target Gen Z. She also said that there are a few different tiers. So there are like college ambassadors, affiliate partners and then influencers and they all have these different motivations, they all have different program structures. Your affiliates get, get commissions when they refer Sales influencers include people who have like a really great reach or they're kind of that professional content creator. Um, they might use affiliate links as part of their compensation, but they probably won't engage in a typical ambassador program. And um, it'll have like hashtag ad ah or sponsored in the content. And then college ambassadors are different because they might not be trying to make money from their content, but they want to participate. They want cool access and they want freebies. But perhaps that's shifting since we had that conversation. They are expecting to be paid, which is interesting because you look at like the uh, professionalization of college with college sports. In the last couple of years you've been able to actually sponsor college athletes. That has all shifted. And I think maybe the same thing is happening with college kids understanding the influence that they have on culture and that they should be getting paid for that and um, in not being this kind of, um, super like cheap, accessible way to reach mass Gen Z audiences. Uh, the other tip that, that Amanda had is that you want quantity over everything. So you want a lot of people. This isn't like a super exclusive program. You can also funnel in high school students into the program and have you know, your age gates and age rest rates around applications to make sure that you're getting people in the right age bracket. Um, and then you create your secondary T program for people who are more influencers and creators and they kind of get larger incentives and Dormify calls those folks like their content squad and they use a tool called Social Ladder and that's where they get, that's where they kind of gather all of their applications to run the program that's integrated into the website and they'll get all of your social account information and then they can like weed out parents and fakes and people the wrong age bullies, like all of that. And then once people are approved, they get all their onboarding materials, they get a Dormify code to use and to share and they kind of have a rolling application where people can apply all the time. Not you know, at that, like back to school, fall time of year, um, um, and then Social, uh, Ladder will track, you know, you can earn points based on who's referring the most people and whether you, you know, follow the, their social media or the newsletter or refer um, people to the email list. And then you get perks based on that, which I thought was really clever. So like those points equal free stuff from the brand essentially. And then I think Tyb would also be another platform that would do this

Speaker C: totally that was my plug Jasmin Tyb and home from college. If you want to, like, hack this yourself. Easy, love.

Speaker A: Okay. Well, I don't think I'm going to be doing a college ambassador program anytime soon. Doesn't necessarily make sense for us. We got a lot of going on. But Paige, I feel like it makes so much sense for you.

Speaker C: Totally. Yeah. This is a good brainstorm.

Speaker A: Yeah. And if anyone has any other advice if they've done this before, please bring it to the group chat. We have a free app if you don't know this, the female Founder World app. You can get it in the, um, Apple Store and like, bring your tips. I want to know what people are doing and how they're thinking about this as this space shifts and maybe professionalizes a little bit.

Speaker C: Love it.

Speaker A: All right, we are officially halfway through the year, my friends. But this is six months in, which is blowing my mind a little bit, making me feel a few different ways. And I wanted to do a check in. How are we going? How?

Speaker B: Um, it's crazy because now people are going to start to talk about holiday and I'm like, no, no, I know we're there.

Speaker A: Yeah, I know. That conversation about return to school was just. Because return to school is summer time of year as well.

Speaker B: Jasmine, how do you feel?

Speaker A: I feel. Look, I want to split this conversation into two parts. One, like a check in. How we going? How we feeling? And the second, some action points. And where we're going with this, this conversation is much more like coachy and actionable than our usual newsy conversation. And that's because things are slow. No one is launching anything after Cannes lines last week. And so this is why this show feels a little bit different. But I am personally feeling like objectively we are actually quite on track. Revenue is on track. We've launched this show, which was a really big goal and something I've been wanting to try for ages. So that feels really on track. But then there are other things. Obviously you get to the. At the beginning of the year, it's all just motivation and vibes and anything is possible. And then once you get to this six month point of the year, it feels like it's where the rubber reach the, uh, the road. Is that the saying? And everything just feels. It's like, it's like the reality of the goals that you've set really sink in. And so I'm definitely feeling that a little bit where there are some things that just have not happened. And I think that's just a reality check about Capacity.

Speaker C: It is interesting. Like this, I'm like, this was a reality check checking in with you, Jasmine, on six months, I'm like, oh my God. We had exactly like you said, so many goals. What are we actually doing? Like let's like focus, get clarity because you get lost in the weeds. Like it feels like it's, I don't know, February.

Speaker A: Yeah. What was some, I'd love to know, like, what were some goals that you set for yourself at the beginning of the year and where are you in hitting them?

Speaker C: To me, I think when I look at Benny's year and I'm curious now because I knew it's, it's launch year for you, so I'm curious on how, how things were looking real. But our biggest like difference on where, you know, we thought Benny would be and ah, this, we do this every year is just our team size. So we always think like, you know, by the end of the year it'll be a team of like five of us. Like we won't be doing absolutely everything. But now on this beautiful day that we are six months into the year, it's my co founder and I full time. We've got our fractional team. I don't know who will be full time at the end of the year, if anyone. It's been a nice learning. We've brought in some awesome fractional people and maybe that's the best way. But I, uh, think every year we assume we're going to be this lean team and we're going to be writing thank you notes to our team. Like, there is no team. It's like, baby, there is no pain.

Speaker B: Paige, one day you're going to look around and be like, whoa.

Speaker A: Therefore, where do these people come from?

Speaker B: Seriously?

Speaker C: We like it, it works. But now where are you guys at?

Speaker B: Oh my gosh. This is a great question for me because there hasn't been a lot of reflection. I feel like for me it's just been execution and getting the thing out into the world. And it's hard because I have really high expectations for myself and I execute and decision make really quickly. But I also just didn't even know what to expect because even when it came to like numbers manufacturing what my margins were going to be, how selling online was going to be with like no particular audience at all and like building it from the ground up, I was like, for me, I'm like, I'm gonna sell zero or I'm gonna sell out. Like there wasn't really. I mean obviously my goal was to sell out but it wasn't really like an attainable goal. So um, I would say we landed like, like in a, in a, like a net positive. Like we didn't totally sell out, but we'd sold out of a lot of styles and colors and how to restock. So I'm really happy. But it's also, I keep telling myself, like this whole year for me is just gathering data. Like that's all it can be. Even when we have popups. I'm like, nothing is a failure. Everything is just like seeing what works. And I um, hate that for me because like, I just want to know the answers and like execute. So it's been a big research year for people, beach street and for Natalie in a personal way. But it's like you want to land in between like not being disappointed, but you also want to give yourself credit and high expectations. So yeah, I'm just going to keep tracking along and maybe in another six months I'll have like, better like concrete metrics.

Speaker A: I was reflecting on this on my drive in today and thinking about where, like, what is moving the needle in terms of getting me closer to my goals and what is not. And I think think the big thing for me has been switching the mindset from, okay, you set your goals and what you want your outcome to be. Those goals actually probably shouldn't have a timeline. Like, I do think, like, what do you want to be and where do you want to. What do you want your business to achieve? But what you need to put the timeline on is the output and what you can control. Because I do think that I can spend a lot of time thinking we haven't hit X, Y, Z, we didn't get this, we didn't get that. But when I feel most disappointed in the business, in myself and my own progress, is when I haven't actually honored the out the output that I want to contribute. And so I've been trying to reframe my what I want out of the next six months to really think about. Sure, we've got our outcomes that we want at a macro level, but I'm going to focus on the output that I think is going to get me there. And if I can own those outputs, then like, I've left it all on the table. I've got nothing, Like I've got nothing else to give and I can be proud of that. I think it's when I don't honor the output that I think the business deserves and that I deserve that I think I feel disappointed with where we're at um, so an example of that might be, I know that to hit a certain revenue target we need to be putting out X amount of content. If that content isn't going out, I can control that or I know that I need to be sending X amount of pitch emails or making X amount of like cold calls to get sponsors. If I'm not doing that output, then that's, that's something that I can own and genuinely feel disappointed in myself in. Um, whereas I can't actually control the outcome. I can't control this macroeconomic environment which is like actually really a very, very tricky environment to be operating a business, particularly E commerce business. You guys operating E Comm businesses. Like I know things are really hard at the moment and you can't control those. Macroeconomic environment, that macroeconomic environment. But what can you control your output? And so that's something I'm really trying to reframe the way that I think about this.

Speaker B: I like that focusing on the output is really good advice.

Speaker A: Yes.

Speaker B: What's something that is working that you didn't expect? Uh, or vice versa? Like what's something that you really thought was going to be it for you this year? And um, it. You're like, okay, we're pivoting. I know I have some for me.

Speaker A: Okay, you start for me.

Speaker B: I was like so stoked to do pop ups this summer because you know, there's nothing like a, in real life experience when you just have like have a baby brand and you want to like talk about it and display it. And I mean, you guys know pop ups are exhausting. And I was lucky enough to find a lot of really great local partners that let me pop up for free or were just like really excited to have me there. And I thought especially being out here in Montauk, um, it's just like a really good place for swim, of course. But what I didn't consider, I guess was like standing outside in the heat for really long hours. I got some feedback from people which was amazing. That they were saying my pop ups were too short and like they wanted to come but they, there wasn't enough time. And I feel like finding the perfect time was hard. And by myself, like running to get stuck in my car. Like it's a lot and I, I loved every second of it. But I wasn't generating as many sales as I would just organically like posting TikToks and I hate that because like I love to be in real life and I love to meet people. So that's something that I'M like dialing back. And something that did work, which we talked about last week, which I did not expect. Well, was gifting a celebrity. I had really focused on, like micro influencers and like, even people that I just thought were cool and like, it's been fine. But no one drove as many sales as Ms. M. Bethany Frankel. She, she does drive sales, I have to say. Like, I wasn't expecting that at all, so.

Speaker A: Well, it helps when she posts like a thousand times wearing your bikini.

Speaker B: I know she's still going. I'm like, wow, this is awesome for me.

Speaker A: Are there any more colors you can send her? I feel like you just need to like.

Speaker B: No, actually we did want to be

Speaker A: a co owner in the brand. Like, how serious?

Speaker B: Uh, I don't know. I. Jasmine, we need to sidebar because, like, I'm not sure where I go

Speaker A: from here, but she's rocking it for a call and just something you try and take it to like another level. Because you obviously love another level. Yeah.

Speaker B: Okay, cool.

Speaker A: And I circle. Love you. Yeah, it gets worse.

Speaker C: Yeah.

Speaker A: Um, for me, like, things that I thought would work and didn't work, um, I think like, the big, the big lesson for me has been I'm really trying to like, simplify. I think I've been over complicating a lot of things within the business and over complicating my role within the business and is really get. Trying to get back to the creative roots of why I started and what my. What the things are that I'm really good at. And I am. Um, you get about. You guys are about to be so sick of me. I'm really leaning into content. Like, I'm posting every day. We're filming in this office. We're doing business newsy stuff. I'm showing you trends. Like, I am on the socials now in a way that I haven't been since probably before I had a baby, before I had kids. And, uh, that has just been a lesson around. Um, I have a very clear, like, point of view on what I want to say and I just think it's a real mess not to get online and say it. We have our build in public challenge that's happening with Adobe and that kicked off this week where this is something that we are all doing together. Where if you're listening to this and you're like, yeah, I need to also be doing this. We are telling you how to do it every single week. You're going to hear it, um, on the show, you're going to hear what to post. We're going to be looking at what brands are doing really well and giving you some really great action steps. So if this is something that you want to commit to the build and public challenge, this is week one, we're doing it. Um, and yeah, that's been something that I think I could outsource a little bit more. But I'm bringing it back.

Speaker C: I love it. I feel like you guys have the same like thesis at the end. It's like honestly content and I would say that's one of ours as well is like we don't need to pay. The biggest influencer we can find to post about us. Like my co founder's content literally just goes viral. Viral because it's her like we need to simplify doing our launch. Every single quarter is taking the life out of me and we definitely won't do that next year. So that's.

Speaker A: Yeah, that's good learning. I also think like having a little bit more of a thick skin on the Internet, like the. I don't know, something switched where I'm just like, I just don't care. I don't know. You are. I don't care. I see people complaining in comments all day, every day. I am, um, now no longer just letting that stop me from posting my opinions. It comes from a good place. I'm trying to be helpful in my content and um, I just don't care anymore. I don't care. So I'm just, yeah, I can't wait to see it. You know, I am all about making those smart swaps in your business that reduce friction and reduce your costs. Right now the smartest swap you can make is moving to Omnisend. Omnisend is this email and SMS marketing platform that is super, super easy to use and they've just dropped their SMS pricing. So you can now send a marketing SMS for a fraction of a cent. It's literally 710 of a cent to send a marketing SMS. With Omnisend plus they will migrate you onto the platform from whatever email and SMS marketing tool you're using right now for free within five days when you sign up to a paid plan. We have a special offer for our female FounderWorld community. If you use the code FFW35, you will get 35% off trying out Omnisend. You can head to the link in the show notes or just go to omnisend.com and check out the platform for yourself yourself. Guys, let's get into our swaps now. Um, if you're new to the show our swaps are, uh, the things that we're switching in, switching out in our lives to help us achieve our goals. It's very, um, timely with this conversation that we've been having today around FOMO and six month check in and this show is presented by our friends at Omnisend. Omnisend is the smartest swap that you can make in your business. They will migrate anyone onto their email and SOS marketing platform for free in 5 days if you sign up to a paid account. So genuinely the easiest and smartest swap you can make in your business. Who wants to kick off some off? I'll go.

Speaker B: I have a fairly simple one and we've had this founder on the show before. It's Tezza, the photo app. Um, Tessa Barton's the founder we love. She's just iconic content creator in the space. But now she's even more iconic for this app. For me, sometimes my content just bores me. Um, like we were saying, I feel like my content is really what's driving a lot of sales rather than like standing outside for pop up. So when I'm kind of bored of just like our regular iPhone content, I'll use the Tesla app to make it look like it's on like um, a VHS cam or some sort of vintage camera. And I feel like that's been like reinvigorating our content when I, when I'm like recycling things. So, um, I also use it in my personal life and like for my content creator stuff. So if you aren't using that already, I think it's so worth it. I've used a million photo ops and like, I just always go back to it. It's really cool. So that's my smart swap.

Speaker A: Love Paige, what's your swap?

Speaker C: My swap is going to sound super crazy, you guys. It's going to sound kind of manic. But I have always wanted to be like a journaler. Okay, two things about me wanted to be a journaler just never really stuck. And I love walks. So I've started doing this thing where I will give myself like journal prompts or my co founder is a big journalist, she'll give me journal prompts and I have been doing them in my notes app. There's like the function like talk to tag text and I just go on walks and I like talk to myself about these journal prompts and it's been really nice. I will even like take it a step further and like upload those notes into Claude to like give me like to dos or just like what Is like the train of thought here. But it's been really lovely. Like I clearly get my thoughts out. Speaking like that's how I like process things and yeah, the same. It's been really nice.

Speaker A: Yes. And also just like to get the thoughts out of your head can stop those circular thoughts. Thoughts quite a lot, I think. I do this with Claude actually all the time when I have my baby in the carrier and we go for a walk and she just thinks I'm talking to her, you know, and I'm like, I'm talking to AI honey. But that's fine. You can out of the business. And like that's fine. That's such a segue because we have a bunch of prompts that I'm going to put in the show notes where if you want to do a six month reflection and do the walking and the thinking and the talking that Paige is talking about, we'll put those prompts in the show notes. Some of the things that you can think about to make the next six months really successful for you and to make sure that you are on track and not repeating any of the mistakes and doubling down on the stuff that was working from the first half of the year. My stuff is actually fashion related. You can see this rack of clothes in the background if you're on Spotify or YouTube. And I am sharing an office with this fashion brand called Capsule Wardrobe. And the idea is that every single Pete have I rec every week I'm like, have I recommended this yet? I haven't. Have I? No, I don't think so. They basically the idea is, um, everything within their collections are designed to be worn together and mixed and matched. And the whole concept behind the brand is it's for people who have a wardrobe full of clothes and nothing to wear. And it is just such a great concept for me personally because I have all of these things that just don't go together and are super like hard to style in the morning. Uh, this is about building your capsule wardrobe and swapping in and out different things to elevate for certain occasions, to make it more corporate, to make it more relaxed. Whatever it is, I am absolutely loving. Like I have so many of their pieces now. Obviously I work from her workspace. I'm seeing this stuff stuff every day. It is the most beautiful, beautiful quality. And one piece that I'm loving that they have is this funnel neck trench. It's kind of like a charcoal gray. I think it's about $300 and it is absolutely stun, stun, stun. If you are in Australia, you're in winter right now. If you're in the southern hemisphere, you're in winter right now. That is the purchase. And then if you are in the northern hemisphere, they have this insanely beautiful, like, black, like, strapless, little black dress dress. And that would be my purchase from them now. It's. Yeah. Beautiful. It's just one of those, like, foundational pieces where the quality feels like it should cost three times as much.

Speaker C: Yeah.

Speaker B: I think that this is the future. The capsule wardrobes and the. These pieces. Like, she's taken it to such a. A different arena. And I'm, um.

Speaker A: Yes.

Speaker B: And every time you're on camera, you look so good.

Speaker C: Always.

Speaker A: This is all cute background. Maybe I'll do, like, a try on or something in the future.

Speaker C: Yes. Uh, we need.

Speaker B: Please.

Speaker A: We'll just stay on the call. We'll end the show, and we'll stay on the call, and I'll start doing

Speaker C: haul.

Speaker A: All right, everyone, that's the show. We'll see you next week.

Speaker C: Thanks. Bye.

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