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How to hire normal engineers and help them do great work with Charity Majors from Honeycomb

Engineering Unblocked · 2025-07-22 · 36 min

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In this episode of Engineering Unblocked, Rebecca talks with Charity Majors, CTO of Honeycomb, to explore the myths of engineering productivity and the importance of building systems that enable “normal” engineers to succeed. Charity Majors tears down the myths of engineering exceptionalism - challenging the tech industry's worship of “10x developers” and advocating for systems that empower everyday engineers. She reveals how true organizational effectiveness emerges from resilient teams and a genuine connection between technical work and business strategy. Find the transcript at: Timestamps (0:00) Introductions (1:26) Hiring normal engineers over the '10x developer' (4:40) The fundamental attribution error: looking at individuals over the system (6:24) What non-engineering leadership need to know about engineering (7:28) The ingredients of a normal-engineer optimized system (8:40) Why diverse teams are resilient teams (9:26) What creates 10x leverage?

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