
Energy Trade Show Podcast · 2026-06-24 · 33 min
Key moments - from our scoring
Substance score
17 / 100
Five dimensions, 20 points each
This episode captures conversations with multiple service providers at the Williston Basin Petroleum Conference in Bismarck, North Dakota, during a period of optimism driven by $100/barrel oil. Jared McBride of Stage Three Separation highlights the value of bringing full-scale equipment (a centrifuge) to trade shows to demonstrate separation technology for drilling operations. John Markle from RDO Equipment, a John Deere and Vermeer dealer serving the Bakken region, explains how rising oil prices are pushing operators to purchase equipment rather than rent, signaling more bullish business models. Gary Anderle of Aptum discusses leak detection and repair (LDAR) services required by EPA regulations for chemical plants and natural gas facilities, plus the company's broader work in environmental remediation, energy conservation, and landfill methane capture. Brady Ruder of Badger Consulting and Well Oiled Solutions covers drilling support services including solids control, casing cleaning and running, and blowout preventer pressure testing. The episode emphasizes deal-making, post-event follow-up, and the conference's growing importance as a basin-specific networking hub.
Stage Three Separation provides separation equipment for drilling operations; bringing a full-size centrifuge to the conference creates a more engaging conversation piece than a model, allowing operators to see and understand how the machinery actually operates on their sites.
When oil prices rise (like at $100/barrel), operators shift from renting equipment to purchasing it, indicating they expect sustained work and are willing to own assets rather than lease them short-term.
Aptum performs leak detection and repair work at chemical plants and natural gas processing facilities to comply with EPA regulations that require facilities to detect and repair leaks in valves, pumps, and flanges to reduce emissions.
Aptum installs methane capture systems at landfills, collects the gas through turbines, sends electricity back to the grid, and shares revenue with municipalities and private landfill operators based on energy produced.
Services include roustabout work on rigs, solids control to clean drilling fluids, casing cleaning and running with specialized casing running tools, and blowout preventer pressure testing and nipple-up procedures.
Our reviewer’s read on each dimension, with quotes from the episode.
The episode is almost entirely trade-show promotional filler - company intros, conference atmosphere chat, and generic optimism about oil prices. The only marginally substantive moment is a brief discussion of landfill methane-to-energy, but it stays surface-level. No actionable frameworks or non-obvious claims for a B2B operator.
we can get you to the finish line quickly, safely, faster, and then save you, uh, millions of dollars, literally, if you give us a look
service after the sale
Zero contrarian or first-principles thinking. Every observation is a cliché - oil's up so people are optimistic, networking happens at after-parties, small conferences have quality attendees. Nothing a B2B operator hasn't heard a hundred times.
if you're in this business long enough, it's going to come up and it's going to go down
it's a great way to support the local economy in Bismarck
Guests are regional practitioners at small-to-mid-size oilfield service companies - legitimate operators but none at meaningful scale or with cross-industry authority. Including Miss North Dakota as a guest actively undermines the episode's relevance to B2B operators.
I'm joined by Ms. North Dakota, Kennedy Delap
About 3,000 employees. Forgot how many offices we've got about 50 offices across the US
A handful of concrete details exist - conference attendance of ~3,000, oil at $100/barrel, Aptim's 3,000 employees and 50 offices, pressure testing at 2,500 PSI for 15 minutes, WOS offering 14 services - but these are company-description stats, not evidence-backed business insights or meaningful benchmarks.
whether it's 2,500 psi for 15 minutes. We do that, we chart it
About 3,000 employees. Forgot how many offices we've got about 50 offices
The host asks almost exclusively open-ended promotional softballs ('Tell me about your company,' 'How's the show been?') with no substantive follow-up or pushback. The one moment of genuine curiosity - landfill methane - is pursued briefly but drops before any depth is reached.
So tell me, you guys had a great party last night. It was fun.
What do you want people to know about rdo?
Computed from the transcript - who did the talking, and the words that came up most.
Part 3 rounds out our Williston Basin Petroleum Conference coverage with the boots-on-the-ground stories - the service companies, local operators, equipment providers, and community faces that make the Bakken run every day. From environmental compliance and heavy equipment to well servicing, separation technology, and a conversation with Miss North Dakota herself, this episode captures the full texture of what makes WBPC one of the most unique energy gatherings in America. We speak to Jared McBride - President, Stage 3 Separation John Markle - Regional Manager, RDO Equipment Gary Anderle - Regional Manager, APTIM Brady Reuter - Safety Manager, Badger Consulting & Well-Oiled Solutions (WOS) Kennedy DeLapp - Miss North Dakota Links: Brought to you on OGGN , the largest and most listened-to podcast network for the oil and energy industry.
Transcribed and scored by The B2B Podcast Index.
Speaker A: M.
Speaker B: You're listening to the Energy Trade Show Podcast with your host, Ben Selaksen. Find him on the trade show floor
Speaker C: at conferences nationwide to get the true
Speaker B: behind the scenes of what's really happening
Speaker C: at the events you want to attend in the energy industry. Let's get started. You're watching and listening to the Energy Trade Show Podcast. We're coming at you live from the Williston Basin Petroleum Conference here in Bismarck, North Dakota. And I'm joined by stage three separation president Jared McBride. I saw that. Right.
Speaker D: Nailed it.
Speaker C: Perfect. Yeah, it's almost like we've done this before. Hey man, this has been a pretty cool show, I'm not gonna lie. And I'm really excited to be here. And you got a really cool booth going on here. So how's the show been for you so far?
Speaker D: It's been great. Not only is it full of a bunch of enthusiastic oil and gas industry folks here in the Williston Basin, but yeah, like you said, our booth has, uh, been a great setup. But we mentioned in the early drop we were going to have a, uh, centrifuge in here and so there it is. And there it is. Yeah, you guys can't see it in the current picture right now, but you'll see a fol of it posted later. But yeah, it's been great. It's been a good talking piece and a good conversation creator for the service that we provide and how it operates and how we actually contribute to this industry.
Speaker C: So getting this thing here couldn't have been easy though.
Speaker D: Yeah, there was a lot of heavy lifting involved in the. I think we may have blown out a tire or something, but we got it in one piece and yeah, it's been great.
Speaker C: You think it's important to bring stuff like this to the show? Obviously it's here, so you do, but people touch it. We have to see how it works and operators can see what it would look like on their site.
Speaker D: Sure, yeah, it's a, uh, first time for us to introduce something like this, especially at uh, a full size scale. It would have been simpler to have a model or something. But yeah, there's nothing quite like having the actual piece of equipment in the reel so that we can look and talk through how the machinery operates. There's a number of other vendors here today and it's pretty common at some of these shows. If you go outdoors where you've got a bit more space, they've got some rigs and some big tanks and stuff like that. So yeah, to be able to put it inside has been a nice touch.
Speaker C: All right, so tell me, you guys had a great party last night. It was fun. Do you feel like they say that at this conference, this is where deals get done? This is a business development conference. Do you feel it's accurate or.
Speaker D: I feel that it's accurate. Certainly there are shows where maybe that doesn't land as well. I would say this is absolutely one of those shows. And, uh, before I forget, and I don't, I'd be remiss without mentioning our co sponsors on last night's party. Uh, the guys at Badger Consulting and Universal Fluids and the stage three Separation co hosted that deal. But, yeah, a fantastic turnout. Again, a lot of optimism and enthusiasm about where we're heading specifically in this basin. But yeah, back to your question. I think it's a very functional networking. The other thing I would want to highlight is the. The leadership of the. Of the industry. The president of the Texas Oil and Gas association, president of the New Mexico Oil and Gas association, along with the North Dakota Oil and Gas association president, gave some really thoughtful and inspiring sort of commentary in some of the speeches and the speaking open forum speeches. This made me proud to be a part of this business. And it's exciting where I think that we can create and dictate our futures to certain degrees if we just get out and do things like this and talk about our business and how it impacts communities and creates jobs.
Speaker C: Yeah, totally. Yeah. And they were doing something I thought was really cool yesterday, which was they were bringing kids around and showing them demonstrations of the machinery and stuff.
Speaker D: Exactly.
Speaker C: Man. You gotta do that. And it's such a part of the engagement, uh, to teach people and teach that there are careers in this industry too. So I love that.
Speaker D: I do, too. It's been fantastic.
Speaker C: Yeah. Okay. Lastly, I was saying, so when you leave this conference, what are you hoping to have gained or gathered?
Speaker D: It's just a continuation of. We've become part of the, I would say, fabric of this industry in this specific basin. But just a continuation of good service and good camaraderie and, uh, good commitment to the service that we continue to provide here in North Dakota.
Speaker E: Man.
Speaker C: I had a guy tell me yesterday that he's. I haven't been to this show in five years. And I was like, what brought you back this time? And these oils, $100 a barrel. Yeah. Everyone's trying to see. Come out into the light about what's going on. So it's good. There's a lot of optimism here, and I appreciate that.
Speaker D: Yeah, I do too. And if you're in this business long enough, it's going to come up and it's going to go down, and somewhere in the middle is where we all try to stay and try to stay humble and responsible and. Yeah, but it's a great. It's a great event, and we're really happy that we're here.
Speaker C: You guys got a great booth. I really appreciate it. I appreciate you being on the podcast, man. All right, thanks a lot, Jared.
Speaker D: You bet.
Speaker C: You're listening and watching the trade show podcast. We're coming at you live from Bismarck, North Dakota. We're at the Williston Basin Petroleum Conference. I should probably add that in there, but I am joined by John Markle, who is with RDO Equipment company. Is that correct? Did I say that right?
Speaker A: Yes, ma'.
Speaker F: Am.
Speaker A: Yep.
Speaker C: All right, so tell me a little bit about rdo.
Speaker A: RDO Equipment. We are the local John Deere construction and in some areas, ag dealer group. So we serve the Bakken in Dickinson, Williston, Bismarck, Minot. More specifically.
Speaker C: Yeah. How long have you been coming to this show?
Speaker A: Uh, better part of 15 years.
Speaker C: Okay, cool. So you've seen it develop and you've kind of seen the ups and downs and where it's going. Right now we're in an upturn, and it seems like people are really excited this year. When oil's $100 a barrel, people kind of start tapping their heels and clicking their heels together. So what's the biggest thing you've noticed this year as opposed to maybe the last five or ten years?
Speaker A: I guess just the sense of optimism from our customers when we visit about work in the next upcoming 12 months. They all seem to. If they're not busy right now, there's a lot of opportunities for them.
Speaker C: Absolutely. I would say that across the board and in Texas as well, people are just pretty stoked to be working with the gas right now. So, rdo, you guys provide equipment. What kind of equipment? You said John Deere, but what does that really mean for, like, what does an operator need John Deere equipment for?
Speaker A: Specifically geared towards the oil field would be our excavators, loaders, motor graders for doing pipeline projects, maybe building rig pads. We're also the Vermeer. So Vermeer is more known for directional drilling, trenching, that type of equipment, or big, large vac truck for safely exposing existing utilities.
Speaker C: And are you from North Dakota?
Speaker A: Yep, Born and raised.
Speaker C: Okay. Okay, good. All right. I'm talking to the right person. What part of North Dakota?
Speaker A: I'm, um, originally from Mina.
Speaker C: Okay. Okay. I'm gonna be honest with you, man. I don't know a lot about North Dakota, if anything at all. The most I know I was doing my research before I came up here, and I gotta tell you, great folks, great people I've met here, everyone's really excited. Salt of the earth fol. Super nice. Reminds me a lot of Texas in that regard. It's a real pleasure to meet someone who's born and raised and working in the oil industry here or working in the energy industry here. I want to ask you the coolest thing you said. There's a sense of optimism with your customers, though. How do you think that's going to help your business? Are you imagining more infrastructure projects are going to occur in the next few years, or are you going to keep on growing? Tell me a little more about RDO in that regard.
Speaker A: The oil field has ebbs and flows, and I would tell you by industry potential. Currently, we're in the bottom of a trough. Things were slow, but now, as I've watched the numbers, they're starting to ramp up, which means that customers, instead of renting equipment, have decided to maybe purchase equipment.
Speaker C: Oh, man.
Speaker A: So that, I guess it just points to they're being a little more bullish with their business model, where they're willing to take on the asset and own it rather than just rent it when they need it.
Speaker C: And then rdo, Y' all do a lot of work in Texas, too, I, uh, imagine, right?
Speaker A: Yes. We're in that I35, that central corridor. So we're not quite directly in the oil field in Texas, but adjacent to it.
Speaker C: Yeah. Yeah. How often do you go down to Houston?
Speaker A: I actually don't. We've got general managers down there that take care of those stores.
Speaker C: All right, so what do you want people to know about rdo?
Speaker A: I would tell you that we work hard to partner with our customers. We don't just try and sell you something and wish you the best of luck. We're going to be there to service that piece after the sale. And if I could get anybody to remember, one thing about RDO was service after the sale.
Speaker C: I love that. That's important, too. And then how can people find out more information about RDO?
Speaker A: Our website. Probably the easiest, www.rdoequipment.com. there's a lot of, uh. So each store has its own individual webpage.
Speaker C: Okay.
Speaker A: So you'll be able to see who the general manager is, sales manager, service manager, et cetera.
Speaker C: That's great, man. That's great. Anything else you Want to talk about on the conference side or anything that has been sticking out that you've been thinking about?
Speaker A: Excited to see that it's in North Dakota every year now. Years ago, it used to go between us, and I think it would go in Canada. It was in every other year. Deal. So it's awesome to see it. The attendance is. I had a heck of a time finding a parking spot, but, yeah, it's a great way to support the local economy in Bismarck.
Speaker C: I love that, man. That's great. Thank you so much for being on the Energy Trade show podcast. I really appreciate it.
Speaker A: Absolutely. Thanks, Ben.
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Speaker C: You're listening and watching the Energy Trade show podcast. We're coming at you live from the Williston Basin Petroleum Conference here in Bismarck, North Dakota. And I'm joined with Gary Anderle from Aptim. Did I say all that right? Yep.
Speaker E: Ah, Aptum.
Speaker C: Aptum. Aptum. I didn't realize that. What does that stand for?
Speaker E: It doesn't stand for anything.
Speaker C: And you guys are a company. Uh, just tell me a little bit about Aptum.
Speaker E: Apton's based out of Baton Rouge. We've been in business under this name for about 10 years, but through predecessor companies, it was the Shaw Group, Chicago bridge and Iron IT Corporation. So we've been in the business for over 35, 40 years. So we do everything from environmental consulting to energy conservations, and we actually help industrial facilities save on their energy. We do cleanups. We actually cleaned up the, uh, from after the hurricane for New Orleans. We piped, we pumped out New Orleans and put in the bridge wall. We did a BP oil cleanup. So we do a lot of work for the federal government, for the DOE and DoD, for all other fuel systems. We help maintain those. And so we do a little bit of everything.
Speaker C: Man, that's awesome. So what is a Baton Rouge company doing up here? I know, but what are you doing up here in the Bakken In North
Speaker E: Dakota, the Bakken, mainly, we're doing leak detection repair. So all these chemical plants, natural gas processing facilities, they've got EPA regulations require them to sniff all their valves and their pumps and their connections with flanges for leaks. If they get above a certain level, they've got to make repairs on them. It's to help greenhouse gas and overall emission reductions.
Speaker C: And it's enough to where you guys want to have a presence at this conference? Because it's not a huge conference. It's about 3,000 people. But, man, the quality of the people who are showing up here and the companies, it's really pretty massive. Fantastic. Kind of like a hidden jewel up in middle America for oil and gas. You guys are coming here, and you obviously see the importance of being here. What's the thing that you're really, uh, noticing about the show or what? Are you excited about the show this year?
Speaker E: Just to find out what's going on again, how they're expanding and just trying to see what's happening in the balcony again. We've got a local person up here.
Speaker C: Okay.
Speaker E: We have three dedicated staff that are up here doing the ldar work, but just, uh, trying to see if we can drum up some business for them.
Speaker C: And they say this is a good business development conference. There's a lot of people here who are coming here to make deals. Where do you think you find that the deals are. Is this your first time at the show?
Speaker E: No, it's the second, actually.
Speaker C: So is it enough to where you're like, all right, we need to go back here up to Bismarck?
Speaker E: Yep. Just to have a presence and show that we're up here, because there's not a whole lot of desolate up here.
Speaker C: Yeah, yeah. And do you find that the best meetings and the best development comes after the show, at the after parties or where you find your best conversations are happening?
Speaker E: Typically at after parties, but also on getting the attendee list and following up on the attendees afterwards?
Speaker C: Yeah, it's really important. A lot of people, they get these lists and they don't do anything with them afterwards.
Speaker E: That's the best thing you've got.
Speaker C: Yeah, absolutely.
Speaker E: Because as big as it is, you're very lucky to meet about a half the people, if that.
Speaker C: So if you're such a player here already, you think that there's more opportunity to grow here, you're looking for more clients here, or do you think that you're here really just to establish and have your brand awareness? What do you think?
Speaker E: It's a little both Brand awareness, sure. But there's so much other gas processing and facilities around this area that we just have a very small percentage of the work that we are trying to go after. So it's awareness and try to get our name out to try to get additional business.
Speaker C: And y' all are international, is that correct? You do also North America or other parts?
Speaker E: North America. We have offices up Alberta. Do a lot of work for refinings and chemical plants up there too for turnarounds and maintenance and that type of work up there. And then we've got a pretty good presence in Peru where we do the maintenance and turnaround for the refinery in Peru. We do all our work in Guam with the DOE Again, wherever they've got fuel facilities. We're actually doing the help managing the petroleum reserve down in southeast Texas too. At home's got a pretty good footprint.
Speaker C: Yeah, for sure. A global footprint.
Speaker E: About 3,000 employees. Forgot how many offices we've got about 50 offices across the US but very old company.
Speaker C: Yeah, I love that. Tell me a little more about your work in Texas. Like you trying to. Do you work in the Permian as well?
Speaker E: Yeah, we've got a lot of work in Texas, especially out in the Permian. And I forget the Basin, that's in New Mexico, but out in eastern New Mexico, we're doing a lot of work out there. Midland, Odessa area down by Houston. Houston's got. That's a crazy place. If you've ever been to Houston Ship channel, I'm sure you have.
Speaker C: Oh, yeah, I know what's going on down there. Yeah, man, this is great. And, um, how can people find out more information about Aptum? Just go to aptom.com aptum.a P-T-I-M.com and what are you looking forward to most when you walk away from this conference? What do you think the thing that you're going to be thinking about is
Speaker E: having a couple, three solid leads would be a good win for us.
Speaker C: I love that, man. I love that. Gary, thank you so much for being on the Energy Trade show podcast. Is there anything else you want the people to know about aptum?
Speaker E: Just that we. Again, uh, full service solution. We do everything from work, Walmart, and if you believe that they've got a lot of environmental issues. But we also build and design flares for the oil and gas industry.
Speaker C: Oh, cool.
Speaker E: And landfills. So we actually recover all the methane gas from the landfills and turn that into energy.
Speaker C: And so tell me about that, uh, real quick because a lot of people don't Know, landfills are big business.
Speaker E: Oh, it's a very big business, both for the trash side of it, but also now they actually generate a lot of energy. So before they would just vent it to the atmosphere and then they would just burn it in flares, but now they're collecting it in systems and sending them through turbines and putting the energy into the grid. We've got a lot of contracts with landfill companies that we install the systems and we do, uh, like a share on the revenue for putting it back in the grid.
Speaker C: So can you tell me when that started? When people really figured it out that you could. That they could do that?
Speaker E: That was probably about 10, uh, 15 years ago when we actually started doing. Putting those systems in again before they were just burning it.
Speaker C: Yes.
Speaker E: Big business. They can get a lot of electricity
Speaker C: out of those landfills in the contracts. Are these, uh, municipalities. Are they private companies?
Speaker E: Some of both. Both, Yep. A lot of the municipalities are getting away from owning their own landfills. I know. Like in Arlington. We were talking about that before. Arlington used to own that landfill and they sold it to think waste. Oh, drawing a blank here. Which one it is. But if they sold the landfill, a lot of their. They're just trying to get away from it. They make big money on it, but they also. So don't have to worry about the upkeep of it.
Speaker C: Man. And I didn't really realize how big business landfills were until I met a company recently that has a predatory bird company, and they go and they send the birds out.
Speaker E: Falconers.
Speaker B: Yeah.
Speaker C: What's going on with that? I had no idea.
Speaker E: Yep. So all the birds. Because they. People. These companies build housing areas right across the street from the one in Arlington. If you're familiar with that. They built a really nice subdivision right across the. From the landfill. They didn't think about the one. The stink. So they have odor control going on, but also the birds just flying over there, just obviously making a mess. So they have a. They hire a falconer to come in. So every so often to scare those birds away. So it's pretty interesting.
Speaker C: It is very interesting. I feel like there needs to be hopefully a landfill conference that I can go and find out more information about methane and powering landfills and how the landfill actually works to help you with provide electricity. That's.
Speaker E: It's crazy.
Speaker C: Yeah. And people have no idea. People really don't know.
Speaker E: They made all the money throughout the years and then come to find out it's wells and then go back into the well and get gas out of it. So it's. Yeah, big money. They're making a lot of money on the energy.
Speaker C: I love it, dude. I love it. And I can't wait to share this with the audience. Okay. The website is aptim.com Gary, thank you so much for being on the Energy Trade show podcast. Thanks for having me. I learned a lot today.
Speaker E: All right, appreciate it. Thanks. Sir.
Speaker C: You're listening and watching the Energy Trade show podcast. We're coming at you live from the Williston Basin Petroleum Conference here in Bismarck, North Dakota. And I'm joined by Brady Ruder with Badger Consulting. Did I say all that right?
Speaker B: Yeah, Badger Consulting and wos, A well oiled solution.
Speaker C: Ah, uh, okay, cool. So tell me about WOS and Badger Consulting. What do y' all do?
Speaker B: Badger Consulting's been around for a while. We got company men, dds. They cover many companies. Some of the ones that are familiar to everyone, Devon, Continental, Cord, some of the smaller oil companies. Doesn't matter. Big or small, we're here to help you out. But basically just a ton of knowledge in drilling wells in the Bakken here. I like to tell everybody, we'll get you to the finish line quickly, cost efficiently, and most importantly for me being a safety manager safely. So that's Badger. Bear with me. A lot of knowledge or uh, information there. So well solutions was birthed out of Badger and seeing a need for services. So that's the service side that we can assist the brother company and Badger with it. All tiers down from one owner like a Christmas tree. But welded Solutions, what do we do? Do roust abouting on the drilling rigs. That entails moving pipe, strapping pipe, getting it ready to drill. These wells move pallets, assist with rig move, pretty much anything the operator might need. They can assist with a loader. They'll do that. Second part of that on the drilling side is solids. What is that? All these wells take fluids to drill. Whether it's salt water, invert, fresh water, they provide to get the solids out of the fluids.
Speaker C: Okay.
Speaker B: So then it doesn't tear up. Pumps cleans that well bore better and just keeps their drilling fluids top notch. And we provide the personnel to get on the equipment. I think I caught in your wordage. You talked to stage three. We get on some of their equipment, provide the personnel for the drilling fluids. Past that we clean and drift casing. We'll run the casing. So that's basically prepping the casing and then we have crews show up later to run it down hole. And they specialize in Whatever there you'll hear the term CRT casing running tools. We have many of those to assist in running. It's a new thing of running casing quickly, efficiently and safely. And pressure testing. What does that mean? All these have bops. That stands for blowout preventers. So we'll come on site, they call it, we'll nipple up that bop. We provide the torque wrenches to tighten it up. We'll pressure it up to what the operator specs are, whether it's 2,500 psi for 15 minutes. We do that, we chart it. It gets into their system that all their stuff's good, and then we carry on. So that's pressure testing part of it. And the torque wrenches, we do power washing. We'll clean your derricks up, make them all the operators look good, whether it's subs, derricks, anything on location that needs washed, we can make that happen. I think I might be forgetting some services here, but what's really neat about welded solutions and it's our key point here, is if an operator gives us a look, I think we have 14 different services. The more you choose from, there's some discount pricing that comes with it. So how I started this, we can get you to the finish line quickly, safely, faster, and then save you, uh, millions of dollars, literally, if you give us a look. For sure.
Speaker C: So if I'm drilling a well, when do I call you? What order in the list? Are you the first call? Are you the second call? The third call, how does that work?
Speaker B: Always first, always first man to come back to the badger side of it, the project management and the engineering team, they can help you get ready for what we're about to do. So here's the location. We're going to ask where is it? Are we going to deal with Dakota pressures? So we'll get you set up for the right casing packages and then just save you money in the long run on providing the information to drill the well quickly and fast and efficiently with no hiccups? There's always hiccups here and there, but yeah, to our badger team would be the first call for sure.
Speaker C: Yes. And are, uh, you guys primarily do work in the Bakken or do you have other places in North America?
Speaker B: Yeah, definitely primarily in the Bakken. We have some consultants down in Utah. I think we've had some stuff in Texas really pushing on getting into the powder in Wyoming. That's, that's coming probably in the playbook here sooner rather than later with some operators that want to get going down there. But I, uh, see that coming up pretty quick here. We don't want to spill too many secrets today, but probably coming.
Speaker C: It's the Energy Trade show podcast, not the Energy Secrets podcast. Okay, next question is how many years you've been coming to this conference for
Speaker B: me as a participant with a company? Uh, my first year, actually.
Speaker C: Oh, wow.
Speaker B: Yep. And then on that same note, I was actually at the Safety one. Was it last November. They had it at the same place. I attended that as a weld solution guide for that too.
Speaker C: So what do you think of the biggest value for you guys here at this show? Is it brand awareness? Are you looking for clients or new projects or you just want to remind people that you're here?
Speaker B: Yeah, so like I said, we're kind of dovetailing off the start of like our center of Badger. So WS is fairly new. We've been around for a long time, but we are fairly new. So just the networking part is important. Yeah, for sure. And then to all the relationships that we've had, just to make sure that we tell them that we have these services now. We got a full time safety guy. We're trying to play the part, do everything correctly, pricing safety, all of that to make sure we're just taking care of all our people. So to answer your question, in short, just that networking relationships and then get our name out there. For sure.
Speaker C: Yeah, yeah. This seems like to be the conference for that. If you are working in the Bakken. Yeah, definitely. Someone told me that this was the biggest conference in North Dakota.
Speaker B: I don't know if I can totally speak into that with all the data, but I'd probably tend to agree with that. They have other ones and I've talked to a couple people and they said that this one's actually the best one they ever go to. Whether it's the biggest, I don't know. Yeah, yeah, but Bakken, everything, it's the best of everything, man.
Speaker C: And what's really cool is that you've got a pretty small attendance, like under 3,000, but at the same time, they're super majors here. Like you're rubbing elbows with them when you can talk to them. And I think as a small business and as an independent operator, you're not going to find a better place to connect with some of these decision makers and some of these key people. So. So in regards to that, I would say that this is a hell of a BD conference. For sure.
Speaker B: For sure.
Speaker C: Yeah, yeah.
Speaker B: Totally agree with everything there. It does have some fly in some Big names, some bigger guy leadership from these companies and to rub shoulders with them here in North Dakota instead of flying to Denver or Houston. That's pretty awesome for them to show up for this. You bet.
Speaker C: Definitely. I came up from Houston. I'd never been to North Dakota before, and I gotta say, I like it a lot. I think it's a pretty cool place. It seems like there's a lot of work here. There's a lot of good people here and you can't ask for much else.
Speaker B: Yeah, Bakken. Second to none people. Equipment companies. You betcha.
Speaker C: Man, that's great.
Speaker B: You should come up in the winter time, see if you still say that same stuff.
Speaker C: There's a reason I live in Texas. Snow. Oh.
Speaker A: Um.
Speaker C: Man, I don't think I can handle it. Yeah, I hear it gets. And that's another thing, man. We. You guys have to operate in the cold. That's a whole nother animal. As opposed to in the Permian it gets cold, but it doesn't get like cold like here. So a good question for someone who provides those services, like, how do you do it? Do operations just stop in the cold? I guess it doesn't. You got to keep on going.
Speaker B: No. If an operator's drilling, we definitely keep rolling. However, it seems like we've been around the block a few times to answer that. In a safety side of it, there's two sides of that coin. There's layering up during the cold, making sure hands know their limits and not going past them, providing some warm spots, some breaks. And then like I said, there's two sides of that coin. The hot where it's like, even in that, you got to take care of yourself, layer correctly, wear the right stuff. And yeah, it can be a bugger sometimes, but we've gotten through it for sure.
Speaker C: That's cool. How can people find out more information about WS and Badger?
Speaker B: We do have a Facebook page. Look us up there. We have a website now, wosllc.net jump on there. Uh, there's all our services are listed on there. A brief description about that and that launched a couple weeks ago. So jump on there. Check it out. And then there's numbers to reach out there for. Phone emails are all there. Yeah. Give us a shout like us on Facebook. Follow us.
Speaker C: Do you have a LinkedIn?
Speaker B: We don't. Yeah, I don't think we do.
Speaker C: Yeah, yeah. You gotta jump on that, man.
Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. I think it's coming down the pike here. We'll just slowly getting bigger and add some stuff for sure.
Speaker C: That's cool. Hey, I really appreciate you being on the Energy Trade show podcast. Um, be sure to put your website in the show notes, too, so people can find it. But, man, I appreciate you.
Speaker B: You betcha, man. Thank you for having us.
Speaker C: Absolutely. You're listening and watching the Energy Trade show podcast. We're coming at you live from Bismarck, North Dakota, at the Williston Basin Petroleum Conference. And I'm joined by Ms. North Dakota, Kennedy Delap. Did I say all that right?
Speaker F: You said it right. And thank you so much for having me. I'm excited to be here.
Speaker C: I know it is interesting. So, from what I understand, you go to a lot of events. Imagine that's part of the gig, right?
Speaker F: Yes. I actually am done in a couple of weeks. So I'm coming up on a year of being Miss North Dakota, and I have spent that year immersed in North Dakota communities. Variety of events, variety of amount of people of what we're doing here. And it's wonderful to be here today. The petroleum industry is obviously a huge part of North Dakota, North Dakota's history. So meeting the people and being here has been really fun now, I imagine.
Speaker C: Do you do a lot of oil gigs?
Speaker F: I actually don't do too many, but I also work as at the Rill Electric Cooperatives, and so as a writer and a photographer. So I've been to, uh, quite a few, uh, kind of industry events that way as well.
Speaker C: What do you think that people don't know about being a Miss America, Patrick? Or in particular like a Miss North Dakota, that you want them to know about what you actually do?
Speaker F: Oh, my gosh, that's a hard question. Because there's so much. I think a lot of people have such a stereotype that it's all beauty, no brains. That's what you're judged on. But truly, uh, especially competing, you're judged. The biggest thing is interview. Right. And then talent and what difference you want to make throughout your year, the platform. And so really, these young women, whether it's Miss North Dakota, Miss North Dakota, or New York or Massachusetts, we're going out and we're trying to inspire people and make a difference. And it's a lot of work, and it's a lot of service to our communities. And so that's what I would want people to know. And something that's been really important for me in my year, or I wanted it to be, is authenticity, is when you're out of school and little girls are looking at you, you want them to say, I can be just like you.
Speaker C: Oh, yeah.
Speaker F: And so stepping out of that pageant stereotype, too, that we're not robots, we're just humans, is important to me as well.
Speaker C: No, that makes a lot of sense. And let me ask you a question. Do you know any specific North Dakota history? Do you have to go through a lot of history about the state?
Speaker F: I wouldn't say it is a requirement, but I think going into that interview, you're on a panel of five judges. They can ask you anything you want. So making sure you have a little bit of understanding is definitely wise man.
Speaker C: No, I love that. And I imagine you get to do a lot of traveling, not just in North Dakota, but around the country, or
Speaker F: mostly in North Dakota as Miss North Dakota. But I've gotten to go to Florida for Miss America, and then I've gotten to do reunions with my Miss America girl in New York City in Arizona, and that kind of gives opportunity to go around as well.
Speaker C: It seems like such an interesting thing. I'm just curious, what's the coolest thing that you think you've done in the last year?
Speaker F: Oh, my gosh, that is an impossible question to answer. But one of my favorite things I've done is I got to go on a veterans honor flight. So it's where they take the veterans to Washington, D.C. and they look at their memorials. And I got to be a volunteer photograph and Miss North Dakota. And that was one of those experiences that you just take with you. So eye opening, and I'll take it with it for the rest of my life, for sure.
Speaker C: That's pretty rad. Okay, Oil and gas and Bakken, we're not going to go because I don't know much about the Bakken, but obviously you've seen the role that energy and the oil and gas plays in the United States, and it's pretty important. Now, when you come to these events, do you get a sense like, hey, this is. Is integral to the United States into how we're involved in energy dominance with America. Do you get that sense here? What I'm really trying to say is, do you feel like it's important to United States energy?
Speaker F: I do think that I get that sense. And I think when we're talking about things like industry, whether it's oil or gas or coal, it's so important for people, especially in North Dakota, to go out and meet the faces behind the work, because at least for. For me, it's hard not to have preconceived ideas about these things. And so when you meet the people who are actually doing it, and hear the stories of whether it be how they helped a community or how they made a difference, how oil changed the lives of someone, you can connect that more. And I think that makes it feel more real and important. And I think it's the same with farming and ranching and all those things. When we can have people connect to where these resources are coming from, it makes us value them more. And so that's why I think things like this are so important, too.
Speaker C: Okay, give me a North Dakota fact.
Speaker F: A North Dakota fact. We are the number one producer for honey in the United States.
Speaker C: I didn't know that.
Speaker F: I know most people don't.
Speaker C: What are some other things that you give me? Another fact.
Speaker F: Oh, goodness gracious. We have so many facts. I love the Honeybee fact. We have Theodore Roosevelt national park, of course, which has wild horses. One of the few parks that has wild horses, bison. And we're opening up a Teddy Roosevelt Library pretty soon. We love to, uh, claim. Our claim to fame is often Teddy Roosevelt. So thank you, Teddy.
Speaker C: It's an important one.
Speaker F: Yes, he is an important one. The conservation president. I don't know what other facts I'd want to tell you off the top of my head.
Speaker C: That's okay. The honeybee one. I'm going to be researching that later. I appreciate that.
Speaker B: Yeah.
Speaker C: Kennedy. Ms. DeLap, thank you so much for being Ms. North Dak Dakota, thank you so much for being on the energy trade show. Podcast. I really appreciate it.
Speaker F: Thank you so much for having me.
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Speaker C: Sam.