
Earn Your Protocol by HollyFit · 2026-08-06 · 30 min
Key moments - from our scoring
Substance score
21 / 100
Five dimensions, 20 points each
Sam Greiner joins HollyFit founder (Speaker B) to discuss both his coaching methodology and his involvement with the company's peptide and hormone guidance program. The episode opens with foundational philosophy: Greiner emphasizes that turning teams around isn't about quick wins but about building trust and relationships first. The conversation covers practical peptide questions - storage, potency, reconstitution - with Speaker B explaining HollyFit's model of pre-reconstituted, cold-shipped peptides with clear expiration dates and physician oversight through Dr. Harrington. A significant portion explores Greiner's faith journey and the biblical tattoos covering his body, contrasted with Speaker B's meaningful personal tattoos honoring his mother and wife. Both discuss their motivation for starting/joining HollyFit: providing comprehensive health guidance integrating peptides, hormones, nutrition, sleep, and workout protocols rather than isolated interventions. Greiner's coaching story - taking over Harding High School (described as 'where people go to die') and later West Charlotte - illustrates his philosophy that real transformation requires foundational relationship-building with individuals, not just command-and-control tactics. The episode concludes with a promotional offer: three free months of coaching for recently engaged clients, positioning fitness transformation as preparation for life milestones.
Every legitimate pharmacy uses bud testing to establish an expiration date, typically 30, 60, or 90 days, which should be clearly labeled on the product. HollyFit ships pre-reconstituted peptides with expiration dates already specified.
No, the amount of peptide never changes - if you have 10 milligrams, you always have 10 milligrams. Reconstitution only establishes the ratio of peptide to water (for example, 10 mg peptide to 100 units of water creates a 1:10 ratio).
Doctors who use peptides themselves have firsthand experience with benefits and believe in what they're recommending, making them more trustworthy guides, whereas doctors who don't practice what they preach undermine client confidence in their advice.
Greiner taught health, PE, and weightlifting at Harding daily and built relationships with students, creating trust. After his opposing team beat Harding by 60 points, he saw the disappointment in the students' eyes and felt called to take the head job despite initial doubts.
HollyFit integrates physician-guided peptides and hormones with coach-guided nutrition, plus addresses sleep and workout protocols - treating the whole person rather than isolated interventions.
Our reviewer’s read on each dimension, with quotes from the episode.
Almost no B2B-relevant insight; the closest substance is a basic explanation of peptide reconstitution and expiration dating, buried in personal testimony, faith stories, and product promotion offering nothing an operator would learn.
When you. The amount of water you put into assigns the value to the units.
every pharmacy has something called bud testing, and what that is is basically an expiration day
Ideas are generic platitudes about trust, foundations, and caring for people; nothing contrarian or first-principles that a B2B audience hasn't heard a thousand times.
Once we lay that foundation down, growth will happen because our foundation is true.
We're here to help people.
Guest is a high school football coach and fitness coach with a real turnaround story, but he has no relevance to B2B operating, scaling, or business functions; expertise is coaching teens, not running a business at scale.
Renowned for coaching, turning around high school football teams
this was my first head coaching job
Contains some concrete details (team went 1-10, $20,000 budget, player stats, West Point) but these are personal anecdotes with no business metrics, revenue, or operator-relevant data.
they were 1 and 9
it's going to take at least $20,000
Banter is playful but hosts lob softballs, digress into tattoos and faith, and never challenge any claim; it functions as a promotional chat with a product pitch, not probing interviewing.
Tell me about your tattoos.
This is gonna be something. I don't know if it's gonna be good or bad
Computed from the transcript - who did the talking, and the words that came up most.
Sam Greiner got sent to what he calls the worst school in Charlotte, a program that had barely had a winning season in 30 years. He rebuilt it the same way he says everything worth building gets built: foundation first. In this episode, HollyFit's newest coach sits down with Kyle Holland to talk about what actually turns people around. The story at the center of this one: a 112-pound safety who showed up 40 minutes late to first block every day and never made an excuse, who asked for a ride somewhere different every night until his coach realized why. Sam and his wife Connie took him in. He never left. He went from academically ineligible to West Point, and Sam is about to become a grandfather. Also in this episode: Peptide basics, answered straight. What actually happens when a peptide is reconstituted, whether potency fades over time, what beyond-use dating means, and why physician-written protocols take the guesswork out of all of it. Who do you trust? Sam asks the question most people won't say out loud: why would you take health advice from someone who doesn't live it?
Transcribed and scored by The B2B Podcast Index.
Speaker A: And I'm looking at my doctor and I'm like, my goodness. My doctor is 320 pounds. Peptides are great. They're amazing, but there's so much gray area I wouldn't have a clue about. You're more of an expert than I am. They send me to a place like people go to die. Basically, the devil before was messing with me, like, no, don't go down the altar. I didn't care what people were looking at. I went down to the altar and I gave my life to Christ and I was crying like a baby. I hear people all the time say, hey, I've had this peptide in here for five weeks. Does it lose its potency?
Speaker B: Tell me about your tattoos.
Speaker A: This is a great, great start. Building the foundation of trust is the whole key of everything. Once we lay that foundation down, growth will happen because our foundation is true. Built upon a rock is what we say.
Speaker B: This is gonna be something. I don't know if it's gonna be good or bad, but it's gonna be something. Today with me, I have new, highly fit coach Sam Griner, Charlotte legend.
Speaker A: Oh, legend is a stretch, Coach G. Now, they say that way in sandlot heroes. You remember, legends never die, so I hope you're telling the truth. So that's. That's going to be great. I would love to be legendary, but far from it right now.
Speaker B: I won't argue with that. Uh, me and Sam met actually. You could probably tell we have a mutual friend who is our tattoo artist. One of the best shout out, skinny, made to last tattoos. And I was in there getting tattooed one day and I hear in the background, old people ain't supposed to have abs like that. And I looked back and I saw Coach G there chirping like he always does. And. And, you know, naturally I started chirping back. So we had some fun and I started following what he does, uh, with high school football and coaching young men, and really became a big fan of his.
Speaker A: Um, I appreciate you coming to my first game.
Speaker B: That's right.
Speaker C: He got.
Speaker B: Took his team. He got to play the number one team in the state, Panthers Stadium. He's turned two teams around, taken them to two state championships. So when I started this company, Coach G was one of the first people I thought of because of his ability to work with people and turn people around. So I'm going to teach him up, coach him up on the Peptides, and coach or, uh, Dr. Harrington is going to work with him on some of the medical stuff. Clearly, he's in Shape and he's buried into fitness. He's been, you know, he teaches fitness at his high school as well. We're going to get with him on some of the more in depth stuff. But as far as working with people and guiding people, um, and being a motivator of people, there's no one better. So very fortunate to have you here. Very excited that you, uh, it took some talking into, but I'm glad I got you here. Coach G has a hundred thousand Instagram followers. I have 150 Instagram followers. So, uh, he can, he can certainly work with me on how to get you guys listening a little bit more, hopefully.
Speaker A: Well, see, like, let me, let me clarify. It's, it's, it could be haters, but still, it's okay. So, yeah, that's it.
Speaker B: All good.
Speaker A: They're still there. Publicity is good publicity.
Speaker B: That's right. No doubt. There you go.
Speaker A: So tell me, tell me, I want.
Speaker B: Because just in speaking with you, right, you were asking some really good questions as someone who is not necessarily an expert on peptides, right? So I've been in this field for so long, and I've been doing this for so long that it's hard for me sometimes to gauge what people are thinking. And I can talk either over people's heads around it or just doesn't make sense. So what I wanted to have you on here to do for a little while is just ask questions or just, just go back and forth. Kind of just shoot the shit for a little while.
Speaker A: Yeah, I think that's a great way to go about it because, you know, peptides are great, they're amazing. But there's so much gray area that I wouldn't have a clue about. You're more of an expert than I am. And I got questions that everybody probably wants to ask. You know, the main thing is like, you know, when you reconstitute a peptide, okay, there's different ways to do that. You got to understand the formula, and that's a whole different scientific deal. But what's one of the. I hear people all the time say, hey, I've had this peptide in here for five weeks. Does it lose its potency? Can that happen? Is it different for each peptide? Elaborate for me.
Speaker B: That's a great question. So number one, if you guys order or get prescribed, I'm sorry, peptides from Holly Fit, they will come to your house cold, shipped, already reconstituted.
Speaker A: That takes all the science out then.
Speaker B: It's good. It does. There'll be a. It's called a sig It'll have instructions. It'll tell you exactly what to do. Those protocols have been made up by Dr. Harrington. Um, one of the best in the country, in my opinion, in the longevity space, working with peptides. Certainly, if you guys have questions for me, and even if you're working with Coach Sam, Coach Gooch, um, you know, I'm happy to help out with the pharmacology of it or use cases to go along with nutrition. Certainly we want you talking with Dr. Harrington while getting prescribed. So we will ship it to your house cold. And then the. But it's a great question. And what you're asking. I'll. I'll answer it anyways. Um, the. The. When people reconstitute a peptide, there's some confusion around does the amount change? Let's say you have 10 milligrams of a peptide. There's always going to be 10 milligrams of peptide in that bottle. When you. The amount of water you put into assigns the value to the units. So if you have 10 milligrams of a peptide and you put 100 units in of water in there, now you have a 1 milligram to 10 unit ratio. I know this is getting a little absurd. The more important answer to your question is how long is it good for? Because that's what people really want to know is if I've got this peptide and maybe I went on a, uh, travel break or how long does it stay? So every pharmacy has something called bud testing, and what that is is basically an expiration day. Same way you get it on food or, uh, anything like that. And a lot of them, some of them are 30 days, 60 days, 90 days. And when you buy it from a legitimate source, it will come with an expiration date. And so it'll come already explained. So when you come to Holly Fit, you're going to get a peptide that is already mixed for you, and it's going to come with an expiration date. Takes all of the guesswork out of it.
Speaker A: That's great. I think that's exactly what you need. One thing I like about the Dr. Aspect is because even though you're an expert and you've been doing peptides forever, having Dr. Harrington involved in this is amazing. The one problem I have, like, in questions, how much can you trust doctors? Have you ever gone into, um, say, a setting, and I'm talking to my doctor, and I'm looking at my doctor, and I'm like, my goodness, my doctor is £320. Okay? He might be smart but does he even believe in what he's saying? Because I want a doctor that looks good and may be involved in peptides or whatnot. I looked at Dr. Harrington, I'm like, this guy's pretty fit. I would love to know, you know, is Dr. Harrington involved in peptides as well, in hormone therapy too?
Speaker B: Yeah, of course. Absolutely. I wouldn't, I wouldn't have brought him on if he wasn't. And what you're talking about, and I want to be very clear, I am very pro doctor. Um, I was never wanting to be a coach. It's not something I wanted to do. I had a hard time finding a doctor that I didn't have that problem with.
Speaker A: Yeah.
Speaker B: That I looked at and I thought took care of themselves like I take care of myself. Um, and I'm sure you see it in coaching, right? You don't, you don't want, you're not going to trust somebody who is not practicing what they preach. So that's why I brought Dr. Harrington on, someone who clearly does. Um, so I went to doctor after doctor. I wanted to talk to them about peptides and no one would. And, and I understand why, certainly I do. But there are doctors who don't want to evolve with the science. Um, it's a lot, It's a lot. Especially when they're seeing patients all day, every day, non stop. And now we're going to ask them to go home and study the new science. It's like, can be a heavy burden. But the ones who are really, really good do evolve with the science. Dr. Harrington is a really good doctor who has evolved with the science. And not only that, he want, he wants to know it personally. Right. Because he's, he's interested in staying as fit as possible as we age. And the, I tell people this all the time. The best way to get somebody selling peptides is to have them take it is to have them take peptides because it will change your life. And there are very positive benefits of peptides. So one of the reasons I started this company was to help people do it the right way. Physician guided peptide use physician guided hormones and then coach nutritionist guided nutrition. Build the foundation. Right. We need to talk to people about their sleep, about their nutrition, about their workout protocols, as well as their hormones as well as peptides. All of it paints the picture together. And when you get all of that together, now you have the ability to live a long, happy, healthy life.
Speaker A: I totally agree. That's why I wanted to be a part of this, because it's the first one that I've seen, someone that I trust, um, someone that has tattoos, maybe not quite as good looking tattoos as myself, um, have a little bit more purpose. But I, um, tell you what, this is the first one that I've seen. I've seen different companies out there, but really want to tack into every aspect for overall health. I think it's pretty awesome.
Speaker B: Tell me about your tattoos.
Speaker A: This is a great story. So everything on my body is biblically related. And you joke around with me all the time about like, I'm gonna probably, I'm gonna make it to the pearly gates one day and Jesus is gonna look at me like, dude, it's a little weird, man.
Speaker B: It's a lot.
Speaker A: Might not let me in, you're saying, but I gotta be connected with him. And, um, I'm one.
Speaker B: You are.
Speaker A: You.
Speaker B: You are connected. You are connected. No doubt.
Speaker A: But you got like pirate ships, like you think you're papa, so what's the difference?
Speaker B: It's a pirate's life for me, all day, every day. So tell me, tell me about, tell me a little bit about your faith. In all seriousness. Yeah. Um, you said everything on your body is biblically related. Does that make you angry that you don't have a better body?
Speaker C: What?
Speaker A: That's a great point. Compared to you, you look like a small child now. Like, you got to be, you know, like the old hair club for men. You're also a product, you know, so
Speaker B: we, we have hair products. Yeah.
Speaker A: That's good. I, uh, mean, we went to the gym today. It was pretty cool to see. I mean, you're, you're still strong, but you're 6 foot 2 roughly, and you're 167 pounds right now. It got a little depressing because you're wearing medium now and you were wearing extra large because I got some of your gear. It's pretty nice that you gave it to me, but we went from extra large to medium because you're trying to start this company. Make sure you're still taking care of yourself, big dog. That's all I'm saying. Love you, brother.
Speaker B: I asked you about your faith.
Speaker A: I know, I'm, I'm going to get to the faith, but I'm just about you real quick.
Speaker B: Okay?
Speaker A: I'm working.
Speaker B: You are so focused on hating on me that you forgot your Lord and savior.
Speaker A: No, never forget. It's inbound. It's ingrained into me. So cool story. Um, I am dating a girl in high school. Go to Central Church of God. Uh, my dad was really big in the Lutheran Church. That's more of a Catholic based type deal where it's like, let us pray to the Lord. It's all reciting and things like that. And uh, and I knew there was God and. But I never had a personal relationship. And so when I get to be 16 years old, I'll never forget. I'm, I'm driving in the car, it's like the third Sunday in a row. I'm going with my girlfriend at the time in high school. Her name was Sadani. And uh, dad always had the rear view mirror up on me. And I'm like, dude, man, I'm like freaking, I'm like trying to sit, I'm trying.
Speaker B: What was her name?
Speaker A: Sadani. It was, yeah, Sadani. Great, uh, person. Um, Pocahontas.
Speaker B: No. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I had a couple of those girlfriends. Yeah, we used to ride around in high school too.
Speaker A: Oh my goodness. So they take me to Central Church of God, where I still go today. And um, this is the coolest thing that I can ever witness for myself. I'm in the pews and this is the second time they're talking about, you know, the last Sunday I was there, they were talking about, you know, come down to the altar if you have questions, if you want to change your life, if you want to give yourself to Christ. And all I could think about was like this guy that's got the rear view mirror. Her dad's got this rearview mirror on me all the time. Like he's going to think like I'm a bad person, but I got to go there and get saved. He's like, why wasn't he saved before? All these questions are in my head. The following Sunday, the music's unbelievable. And I see a 12 year old, 11 year old type girl, younger than me obviously. And I see an older woman next to her, you know, two people over probably 65, 70 years old range. And they both had tears running down their eyes. And I realized what they had, I didn't have. I, um, mean it was, I mean literally coming down there singing songs they didn't care about anybody else looking, they're not trying to bring attention to themselves. But I glance over and I saw two people have something I didn't have. And I, and I, I don't feel like I was saved at that time. And I wanted what they had. And I remember at the end of that service I, uh, finally, it was like, it was like the devil before was messing with me. Like, no, don't go down the altar to worry about what.
Speaker C: What.
Speaker A: What do you think Dad's gonna think if you go down to the altar? And I remember when they made the altar call, there was only one person that went down that day. And that church has got 5,000 people.
Speaker C: It's.
Speaker A: It's a lot of people. I didn't care what people were looking at. I went down to the altar and I gave my life to Christ. And I was crying like a baby. Changed my life. Uh, I still fight it. I am a human being. I am a sinner every day. But I can tell you one thing. When I do die, I'm going to live forever. I'm going to be with the foundation who saved me. But it all came from that one day of just not worried about what dad was worried about. And I'll never forget M. Her mom came up, tapped me on the shoulder and was so happy that I got saved. But I never looked back. I've been through ups and downs, struggles. Um, I need to be saved because I am a sinner. But that's how I got saved. And then I. And I told myself, I'll never put tattoos. I got a beautiful family. I got a beautiful wife. I'll never put tattoos of them on my body because they're still not the foundation that lives forever. My foundation is built in my faith, and I'm going to wear it as a billboard. If anybody wants to ask, I'm like, yeah, I'll tell you this story about this. That's Samson. That's, uh, you know, that's Moses there. That's Jesus. You know, I love being able to tell stories that mean something, to last forever, not pirate ships.
Speaker B: Speaking of pirate ships and tattoos, since this is brought up, my tattoos actually have a lot to do with why I started this company. And if you're looking at my arm, which you'll see is pictures of my mother who died from cancer.
Speaker A: That's a good one. All right, don't hit me with the sentimental stuff. All right?
Speaker B: But in all seriousness, if you guys look at. So my. This tattoo is a picture of my wife holding a picture of my mother at my wedding. This is a picture of my mother and me, um, my first New Year's ever. My first New Year's date. And then I got married on New Year's Eve, which is my wife here, a picture of that.
Speaker A: That is really cool.
Speaker B: I do have a leg sleeve of pirates as well. He is right. But, um, just so you guys know, I do. I do also have some meaning to these tattoos. You see the Cancer ribbon there. Me and my wife getting married with our. Our two pups, who we both had when we got married. So there's a little bit of meaning to my tattoos.
Speaker A: Um, I do like them. I. I pick on you, but they look amazing, and they're all personable.
Speaker B: On my chest, I have two wolves with a young pup wolf with a young girl, and an older wolf with an older girl. And that symbolizes the love between humans and animals and how the wolf was taking care of the young girl when he could, and that the young girl was taking care of the older wolf when the. The wolf was about to die. And I got that idea from watching my wife take care of our dogs from being puppies till the time they died of cancer. M. And that really touched me. So that's what I have on my heart, because it was the coolest thing I've ever watched. And, uh, the most important and impactful thing to me was seeing that relationship and how humans and animals are able to take care of each other. And I hope, relating this back to Holly fit, that I'm able to have somewhat of that impact on the people that we work with. Not even in a weight loss way or hormones way, but, um, in a showing up way. I just always want to show up for our clients. I hope that no matter how big we get, that we are always of the people and never above the people. I hope that as the CEO of this company in 20 years and we're worth a billion dollars, that a brand new client can call me and tell me that their parent is in the hospital and I want to show up. That is what I care about. And I think that's why I brought you here. That's why I brought you on, because you have told the story about Rahim and just showing up, and I think that's probably the most important thing we can do as coaches, as people, as leaders, as friends. Any of it.
Speaker A: Yeah. And that's. That's one of the most things that attracted to me about you. I mean, you really do. Like, we bust each other's balls, we joke around, but you care, dude. I mean, there's no faking that, all right? You really do. It's passionate. And it's very rare to find people like yourself that care about humans and care about animals as much as you got a heart of gold, dude. Really do. I mean, you. It's pretty special to see, and I could see why you put so much passion in this, and I wanted to be a part of this. I mean, listen, I I'm stretched for. For time. And I was like, you know what? I believe in what you're doing, and I'm happy to be a part of this. I really am. Thanks for inviting me to it.
Speaker B: Seriously. Awesome. Well, guys, look, if you want to. You want to work with Coach G, please go to gohollyfit.com. check us out. Let us help you out. Let us help you get that weight off. Whether we're running a special right now, too, ladies. Anybody who has recently been engaged, we want to get you fit. Three free months of coaching for anyone who can prove they've been engaged. We will coach you for absolutely free, as long as you let us document it, because we're going to get you in the best shape of your life to walk down the aisle. We don't want celebrities. We don't want any of that. What we want to see is you walk down the aisle looking better than you ever have. Come get your free nutrition plan, free coaching. I'll work with you. Uh, it's 750 bucks a month to hire me. I'm gonna do it for free for three months. Anybody who's been recently engaged, so take advantage of that, because I promise you, it ain't gonna happen again.
Speaker A: The only bad thing about that is you're gonna have to pay for alterations, because they're gonna change. Now, you gotta think about this. Whatever dress that we're getting, let's. Let's make sure we have, uh.
Speaker B: So if I was y', all, I'd hop on it, because we can get you ready before you even get that dress. No, you're right. You have to pay for alterations. Save the money on coaches. Put it towards alterations. That's right. That's right.
Speaker A: But it'll be worth it.
Speaker C: We got Coach G here, Coach Griner, Sam. The man himself. Sam. Renowned for coaching, turning around high school football teams. Harding. Where else? West Charlotte. You went in there and what, just started whipping people into shape?
Speaker A: Not that simple. It's more. It's really about what we're trying to do here is building relationships. You got to have a foundation to be able to build. And, uh, I think, you know, starting at Harding, that was my first head coaching job. Um, I kind of got forced into that situation. I was a defense coordinator. Advanced. Now it's called Chambers. Um, at that time, I got displaced. So, you know, I started a family. I had my second child. My daughters are, uh, you know, one and two at the time. And I had to tell, you know, Vance, at the time, I was like, look, guys, I got to take a step back from being a coordinator. I put too much time. My wife works retail. I got to get this dad thing right. I'm helping out all these other people, but I'm not helping out my own family.
Speaker C: All right, family, ma'. Am. All right.
Speaker A: Yep. And so when that happened, I got displaced the Harding, and it was considered the worst school in Charlotte at the time. Okay. So, you know, you got over 20 schools in Charlotte Mecklenburg High Schools. And, uh, they sent me to a place like, people go to die, basically. And, um, I went there, and for two years, I did not coach. I, um, was an assistant at Olympic. One of my former head coaches when I was at Butler High School, when I played, he begged me. He's like, look, you got to come here. I said, look, I told him the same thing. I can't do it. I don't have the time to coach. And he said, no, you can be here two days a week, and you can be home game days, but I need you to help transition us with this defense coordinator. So I went there, and I'll never forget. This is where the moment happened for me, where I just. I had a heart for people in it, and it really touched me is that every day I'm teaching these kids in health and PE and weightlifting. All right, so basically, I had two classes, and I had one weightlifting, uh, or had two weightlifting classes and one, um, health and PE where we did basketball, all the sports and related stuff. But here's the key factor. They asked me to coach football at Harding, but I told him I couldn't. But I was an assistant in an opposing team in the conference, and we end up beating Harden probably by 60 points. But I'll never forget going down the line. This is like 2014, okay? Going down the line, shaking hands after we beat the team. And I'm seeing the kids that I see every day in the school, and they basically are looking at me like, we're not good enough for you. You see me every day in class. And I could. They didn't say it, but I could sense it. And it broke me up inside. Principal comes to me in the spring. He says, you're going to be our head football coach. And I tell him, it can't be done here. And he says, yeah, it's going to be done. John Floyd was his name. Great guy. Um, and he said, you're going to be our head football coach. And I told him, I said, look, it can't be done. He's like, what does it got to take. That's where it changed me in a way where he said, I don't care. Whatever I have to do as a principal, I see how the kids relate with you. I see how these students relate with you on a daily basis. What can we do to make football programs successful? I said, it's going to take at least $20,000. We got to make them be able to put on a T shirt. Just like we're trying to build this foundation here. And I think that was the key. So, you know, the whole story goes like, they were 1 and 9. They lost the Garringer, you know, one of the worst teams. And so we go one in ten the first year. I've told that story many, many times. But we weren't getting beat by 50 points anymore. We laid a foundation down, and, uh, the rest was history right after that. And I get into that later. But building the foundation of trust is the whole key of everything. Just like what we're doing here. Okay. Once we lay that foundation down, growth will happen because our foundation is true. Built upon a rock is what we say.
Speaker C: I love it. All right, so everybody's family at some point is what we're saying. I mean, like, even the kids, the heartbroken kids look at you like, what are you doing? You're on the other side and you're.
Speaker A: Yeah, tore me up. Yeah, tore me up. I mean, could you imagine you. You're going to shake hands, and they're like, they just got whooped. And I'm like, damn, we won a game that I'm coaching the other team, feeling good about, but I'm. I feel hurt. I'm like, you know, walking right by, shaking hands. I'm like, dang, I wish I went and came through this line.
Speaker C: Oh, that's bittersweet.
Speaker A: I know. Oh, it was tough, but it. It opened my eyes to say, like, you got to believe in yourself. Just like, you know, Coach Gooch, Coach, you know, like, everybody that's going to be a part of this. We have a belief that we can bring something to the table to help others. If you don't have that inside, get out of the business. We're here to help people. If it was in high school, helping out football teams, if it's health, wellness, you know, you're being a doctor, saving lives. If you don't have a heart for this, get out of it.
Speaker C: Yeah, I agree. I agree. Um, talk to me about this. What's up with this Murphy story?
Speaker A: Oh, that's a great story. So, you know, transitioning to Year two as a head coach at Harding. There was a kid the first year. So we're going into the summer. There's a kid named Brahim Murphy. Probably the most intelligent kid I had at practice. He was a safety, um, very small. Probably weighed 112 pounds, 113 pounds, real small. But you tell him one thing about an assignment, he's never going to forget it. He was like a quarterback on the defense at the time. But we come into the summer, um, Goldstein was our athletic director. Time. She comes to me with a group of, like, seven or eight people because I didn't understand how everything worked, where this kid's going to be ineligible if you missed this many days, whatever. I started learning that as the head coach going into my first year. So I get labeled. It says, brahim Murphy's ineligible. I'm thinking to myself, he's one of the most intelligent kids I have on my team. How is he ineligible? So I go through the season, like I said, we go 1 in 10. But we're building the foundation. We start winter workouts in my class. So I have weightlifting first block. Raheem Murphy's in my first block class. He showed up to my class every single day, 30 to 40 minutes late. But when he got there, he busted his tail and finished the workout. So it wasn't like he was making excuses. He'd always say, I'm sorry, sir. I'm sorry, sir. Well, we would work out there, and then after school, we would do winter workouts. You know, you start, because there's some kids that don't have the strength in training class. So you got to get that workout in. You want to build that team unity. Because in a class, you might have 12 athletes, then all of a sudden, the other 20 are just, you know, students that are not playing any sports. They just want strength training. Okay, well, come to find out, after workouts, after school, um, Brahim Murphy asked me. He said, hey, coach, will you drop me off here? Would you drop me off there? Hey, can you take me to work? Once I realized a few weeks into it, I never took Brahim to the same place twice. Never. I never, like, okay. So I was like, yo, Brahim, where do you live? And he would always. He just always had a big smile on his face. Oh, you know, coach, I'm going here. I'm going to stay with my older sister here. We're going to go here. And I'm just thinking to myself, like, dude. So I go back to my office, and, uh, this is where it was a Big game changer in my life. My daughters are 2 and 3 at the time, uh, you know, newlywed with my wife. We've been married for roughly four years. And, uh, I have to come to a point where I'm trying to build a foundation to a point where we can sustain and change this program. This program has been dead for 30 years. They haven't had a winning season. But maybe twice in 30 years, pretty brutal. But I'm going to a kid, it's not six foot seven. Everybody's, oh, it's the blind side. I take in a 6 foot 7 kid all day long. Come stay with me. This kid's, you know, 5 foot 7, 112, 113 pounds. But he had a heart of gold. And I said, brahim, how about you come eat dinner with us tonight? And I told my wife, I said, look, I really want to invite this kid over for dinner. She's like, yeah, yeah, bring him over. Now, my wife, at the time, mind you, Connie, as sweet as she can be, and I can tell you a little bit of background of her. This pretty special when it comes down to it about the Brahim situation. But here's the deal. My wife didn't know that, uh, my intentions were this kid's. I, I plan on keeping him here. I didn't tell her that, but I knew her heart so passionate and beautiful as well that he would grow on her just like he did me. So he comes in, eats dinner, and I'll never forget, he throws up that night because, you know, he doesn't understand. The young people always think they understand nutrition. They think they can eat. I'm like, well, you don't eat.
Speaker C: I think it's half the world too, at this point. Like it?
Speaker A: Uh, yeah, a hundred percent. They don't know how to eat. They don't know nutrition. I'm here to help you, buddy. He's, I can't gain no weight. I know you can't gain no way. You don't eat enough. So I made him, we eat spaghetti, and then I make him eat a protein shake before he goes to bed. And I can hear him throwing up in the bathroom later on. It was, it was funny story, but I'll never forget after we leave school and he says, hey, coach, is it okay if I go home with you again? And he never left. So you fast forward Brahim. We never officially adopted him. That's my son. He never left. He still comes home to us now. Fast forward. You know, greatness came from it. We finally have a winning Record. We go to the playoffs for the first time, he takes over as quarterback. Never played quarterback a day in his life, but he's a leader, all right. See something in people, just like we're trying to do here. People have passion to get better. It's our job as coaches and as doctors to do everything we can to build someone up from a foundation where they can grow and take it off on their own. Raheem had that built into him. Nobody in his family ever went to college. Guess where he graduated from? West Point.
Speaker C: So he went from being ineligible to play football, I'm assuming gpa. Everything suffered.
Speaker B: Mhm.
Speaker A: And absences.
Speaker C: Yeah, absences. Right. Home life.
Speaker A: Yeah, it was. And this is crazy thing. So guess what? Junior, senior year, had a 4.0 GPA. Do you think I sat there and made him study and all this stuff?
Speaker C: No.
Speaker A: He just didn't have to worry about where he's sleeping at from day to day. Greatness is already living inside of him. And everybody's like, oh, you did such a great thing for that kid. That kid. That kid has done more in my life for me in my life than I've done for him. I just put him with a little bit of stability, all right? Coached him up and. And I still to this day, he asked me about personal things. Can I do this? And I am blessed to tell you today that I'm going to be a grandfather in about two weeks. Him and his, uh, his wife to be. They're about to get married any day now. And they're about to have a child. He's going to have a daughter, just like I had at the beginning. And it's so cool to see. This guy's an engineer. He's an engineer. A kid that was ineligible in high school graduated from the number one public school there is in America. And when he graduated, he was called the Goat of the ceremony. You ever heard about the Goat of the Ceremony? Go to the ceremony at West Point. Is someone that just barely crosses the line. They didn't get turned back. But there's more stories about someone to persevere is the Goat. Then someone's the valedictorian of the group because they can handle challenges. Pretty cool story by Brian.
Speaker C: Yeah, that's unbelievable, actually. How old is he now?
Speaker A: He's 27 years old. Grown man now.
Speaker B: Yeah,
Speaker A: that is true. By the end of that, tell the story. He probably might be in his 30s. Yes, no doubt.