Building Better with Brandon Bartneck · 2026-03-22 · 12 min
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This solo episode crystallizes Brandon's evolving philosophy around self-transcendence, a concept he traces back to Tim Ferriss's recent critique of how Maslow's hierarchy of needs is typically taught. The problem: most productivity and self-help discourse treats self-actualization - becoming your best self - as the pinnacle, but Maslow himself included a sixth level beyond it. Self-transcendence means channeling your developed gifts and strengths into service of others and causes larger than yourself, not hoarding achievement for personal validation. Brandon illustrates this through Viktor Frankl's concentration camp observations (people survived by finding meaning beyond themselves), Marcus Aurelius's writings on the hive and the bee, the parable of talents, and Kendrick Lamar's To Pimp a Butterfly as a narrative about growth that must be brought back to community. The practical takeaway for engineering leaders, parents, and career builders: develop yourself relentlessly, but only as a foundation for making your family, organization, and community better. Self-actualization without transcendence is a trap that leaves you empty.
Self-transcendence is the layer beyond self-actualization in Maslow's hierarchy that most people overlook. Self-actualization is optimizing yourself to become your best version, while self-transcendence means channeling that development in service of others and causes outside yourself. Brandon argues self-actualization without transcendence is a trap and feels hollow.
No. Tim Ferriss highlighted that Maslow included a sixth level beyond self-actualization called self-transcendence. The popular five-level pyramid model taught in business misses this critical layer, which is about serving something beyond yourself rather than perfecting yourself.
Frankl observed in concentration camps that prisoners who survived and found will to continue were those who gave themselves to causes or people beyond themselves, not those focused on personal survival or optimization. His quote - 'the more one forgets himself by giving himself to a cause, the more human he is' - directly illustrates self-transcendence.
Marcus Aurelius, despite holding supreme power, emphasized that individual benefit is inseparable from service to the larger group. His point is that even the highest achiever's value lies in how they contribute to something beyond themselves, not in personal dominance or self-perfection.
The album charts Kendrick's journey from naive caterpillar to butterfly, resisting external forces trying to exploit him for their own gain, then humbling himself to return to his community with knowledge and purpose. The hero returns with the boon - development that serves others, not just personal achievement.
Our reviewer’s read on each dimension, with quotes from the episode.
The episode is almost entirely a loose synthesis of well-known ideas from other thinkers (Maslow, Frankl, Marcus Aurelius, Joseph Campbell, Kendrick Lamar) triggered by a Tim Ferriss blog post, with no original frameworks, no tactical takeaways, and significant repetition. A B2B operator would extract nothing actionable.
not super novel potentially of an idea in that I think I've been itching at or scratching at this concept for some time
The point, it's such a, the selfish pursuit of being your best for the sake of saying that you are the best and believing that you are the best is not the end. That is a very hollow
Brandon credits Tim Ferriss for the initiating insight and then sequences through Maslow, Viktor Frankl, Marcus Aurelius, Joseph Campbell, and Kendrick Lamar - all widely cited sources - without adding a novel frame or contrarian argument. He even self-diagnoses the problem directly.
it comes, this comes on the heels of a recent blog post from Tim Ferriss
not super novel potentially of an idea
There is no guest; this is a solo reflective monologue. The host is an engineering leader in manufacturing/automotive but demonstrates no practitioner-level depth or scale-level credentials in this episode.
where i cover what it takes to make things better often in the manufacturing the automotive industry and also beyond
hopefully I'm sharing some of this information with you who's listening to this, not from a place of being the expert, but a place of hopefully you're listening to this as someone who's going along the journey
The episode contains zero data points, metrics, company names, or dollar figures. All references are to philosophical or cultural works cited at book-title level with no concrete examples or evidence applied to any real business context.
Viktor Frankl, someone, Man's Search for Meaning, influenced me a lot
the more one forgets himself by giving himself to a cause, the more human he is, self-transcendent
This is an unscripted solo monologue with no interviewer, no questions, no follow-ups, and no pushback; the structure meanders across multiple references without building toward a crisp conclusion, and the delivery is self-admittedly exploratory rather than purposeful.
And that sounds abstract and academic, but it's really at the core of what I've been talking about, what I've been thinking about over the last few years.
I think that's kind of the core to living a good life is following that playbook
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This episode explores the idea that the highest level of human development is not self actualization but self transcendence. Most people understand Maslow’s hierarchy of needs as ending with becoming the best version of yourself. But Maslow later clarified that there is a level beyond that. Self transcendence. The point is not simply optimizing yourself. The point is using your gifts in service of something beyond yourself. Brandon reflects on how this idea shows up across psychology, philosophy, religion, and culture. From Viktor Frankl and Marcus Aurelius to the Parable of the Talents, Joseph Campbell, and Kendrick Lamar’s To Pimp a Butterfly. Different traditions pointing to the same idea. Self improvement matters. But it is only meaningful when it becomes service. Key ideas discussed Maslow’s hierarchy of needs is often misunderstood. Self actualization is not the final step. Maslow later described a higher level called self transcendence. Self transcendence means using your gifts in service of something beyond yourself. Viktor Frankl argued that meaning emerges when we dedicate ourselves to a cause outside ourselves.
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everyone welcome to the building better podcast with brandon bartnick uh where i cover what it takes to make things better often in the manufacturing the automotive industry and also beyond and what it takes to build a good career good life do something kind of beyond yourself and in service of others and make things better and that there's a core concept within that idea that that I'm going to explore further here, and this idea of self-transcendence. And that sounds abstract and academic, but it's really at the core of what I've been talking about, what I've been thinking about over the last few years.
And it comes, this comes on the heels of a recent blog post from Tim Ferriss, who is someone who I've learned from, followed at times on and off kind of through the years, but it's been a big influence on me over the last decade or so. And he wrote about misconception about Maslow's hierarchy of needs and how it's misconstrued in two ways. So first of all, the idea that there's five levels of needs that neatly build on each other is wrong. Although the levels or the areas of need are all right in that you have physiological needs, water, food, safety, water, food, shelter, warmth, safety needs.
So this is the feeling of security and safety, belongingness and love, relationships, friend, esteem, your feeling of belonging and accomplishment and how you think about yourself. and then at the top of the pyramid often is self-actualization which is you know that's that's the pinnacle that's what we're trying to do here we're trying to ultimately build you know check the box on all the other things get to the fact we're not worrying about your physiological your safety your belonging your esteem needs and invest everything all your attention into self-actualization making yourself the best version of yourself that you can there's some truth to that.
There's some merit to that. It's also a trap. And that's this thing that Tim was writing about. It's also something that I've come to believe more and more over time.
And the thing that Tim Ferriss highlighted, which I've looked into deeper since then, and it's true, is that Maslow didn't mean for that to be the end. There's a layer beyond that, which is self-transcendence, which is not optimizing yourself so that you can go sit in the woods or by yourself and just feel great about how awesome of a person you are and how you've taken the things, the gifts you've been given and turned yourself into this great person, but it the service of others And so the self only truly finds its actualization and giving itself to some higher goal outside of yourself That that the missing piece And that the piece that I think often, yeah, we don't talk about that often in culture or in business.
And I think anyone who starts down the self-help journey or the self-actualization journey, trying to become the best version of yourself, like eventually, if you're, if you have enough success there, you realize that that's not the point. The point, it's such a, the selfish pursuit of being your best for the sake of saying that you are the best and believing that you are the best is not the end. That is a very hollow, it's a stepping stone probably towards the end because that's a necessary step towards self-transcendence, but it's not the end in itself.
It's hollow. We weren't, we're not wired as humans to only care about ourselves. And as I reflect on this and think about it, this has shown up in places that I've overlooked through time. So I think about, so Viktor Frankl, someone, Man's Search for Meaning, influenced me a lot.
Thinking about how people in concentration camps with just no hope, no optimism in their life, are able to somehow find the will to continue showing up with no end in sight and the difference between those that survived and somewhat thrived in that setting and those who perished. And there's a lot of things in there that's influenced me. But then when I think about this concept and reflect on it, he writes, the more one forgets about, the more one forgets himself by giving himself to a cause, the more human he is, self-transcendent.
Marcus Aurelius, the Stoics, kind of been a stepping stone for me in my self-development journey. I still have a bust of Marcus Aurelius behind me. I have a quote from Seneca on the wall. I read Epictetus regularly.
I am heavily influenced by the Stoics, but I've also in a lot of ways kind of moved beyond some of the concepts because they seem kind of shallow. But I revisit what Marcus Aurelius writes, and I see actually he even pointed to this in that he often talks about the hive and the bee, And he says, what brings no benefit to the hive brings none to the bee. And when I read that and processed it in the past, I thought, well, it's kind of like a socialist idea of, I think that's kind of the point.
Like there's some truth there of like, yeah, even he who was the supreme ruler, more power arguably than anyone in the world, certainly at that time, emphasizes the point. Like he is not the point. His service of others is the point. this shows up in a lot of different places as well.
And some of the best, I mean, the parable of talents, if you've been listening to the podcast is something that I refer back to regularly. And this concept is very core to it, right? I talk about one of the, maybe the strongest calling that I feel is to truly understand the gifts that I been given And that starting with my life but also the strengths and the situations that I been placed in and the opportunities that have come towards me don recognize those fully take advantage of develop them and develop them that's kind of self-actualization piece and then apply them in service of people to make things better for the people around me something outside myself like that's the self-transcendence piece and that that has felt really true to me for some time and I think that's kind of the core to living a good life is following that playbook of, yeah, climb that pyramid if you want to see it as a pyramid or if you want to see it as five kind of concentric circles of need.
But ultimately get to that self-actualization point and then apply it towards something else. And ultimately, you know, when I when I zoom out and I think more about the the stories, the art that has influenced me the most, this this also comes through. And I think for music, albums influence me a lot and I enjoy listening. My favorite album of all time is Kendrick Lamar's To Pimp a Butterfly.
And not super accessible if you're not willing to do the work of seeing beyond some of the surface flaws, especially if you don't come from, like me, if you don't come from the culture that creates that type of art. But there are some barriers to entry for sure that you need to get over. But the core concept is it's the evolution of the caterpillar into the butterfly. The pimp part is someone external looking to take advantage of that butterfly.
It's the music industry. It's the culture. It's U.S.
government. it's people outside who are looking into that culture and finding the the few sparks the few caterpillars who can turn into butterflies and trying to leverage them for their own advantage their own status wealth prestige etc power um and it's kendrick lamar's journey through that of being the naive up and comer who falls into it and is drawn towards the allure of, I guess, Lucy, Lucifer in the, in the story, it's uncle Sam, it's the big music industry in the government.
And it's, it's his journey to try to get past that and to get back to his roots, realize that he needs to humble himself, go and learn, go understand. And he grows through that process. But the thing that really draws me in, I think, and keeps me coming back to this is at the core of the topic that I'm covering here. It's also the core of the Joseph Campbell kind of hero's journey, which is well shown within the Pimple Butterfly.
But he goes and he brings he brings it back to his community. It the hero returns with the boon is what Joseph Campbell talks about It like the hero goes on this journey They go learn they develop they mature but it not for themselves They bring that in service of others beyond themselves And so the character Kendrick in the, in the, in the album, but then also the way he's trying to live his life and career is go and learn, develop, and then help make things better within his neighborhood, help to educate the people around him who are maybe living a life that's not heading them down the right path, show a different way, show a way of love and belonging and connection and cultural heritage and roots and togetherness, as opposed to hate and violence.
And that's, yeah, sure, the music is great. But like that, as I think about this more and more, I think that it's such a powerful, and the delivery is incredible that goes with it too and the way he builds up the story arc. But that's such a powerful concept and it's core to, I think, what a good life looks like. It's its idea of self-transcendence.
So yeah, not super novel potentially of an idea in that I think I've been itching at or scratching at this concept for some time with the episodes I've been doing on this podcast, particularly the solo ones over the last few months as it's become more of kind of a journal and reflection place as opposed to an interview platform. But that, you know, the blog post from Tim Ferriss, this revisiting Maslow's hierarchy of needs and thinking about this, it's really helping to crystallize this concept and to help, you know, clarify that, yes, go do the self-actualization, but realize it's not in service of yourself, right?
My, myself, my goal, yeah, I want to become the best version of myself, but not so I can hold that to myself. I mean, hopefully I'm sharing some of this information with you who's listening to this, not from a place of being the expert, but a place of hopefully you're listening to this as someone who's going along the journey and maybe getting some inspiration in your own life or seeing, hey, Brandon's an idiot and getting inspiration in a different way because you're seeing you're not wanting to do the things that I'm talking about.
But either way, this is part of it, I think, by sharing this and reflecting. But also, like, I have an obligation and a duty to turn whatever personal development that I have done and continue to do into making me a better parent, a better family member, a better spouse, a better community member, a better engineering leader, a better friend, a better coworker. The only way that this matters, and I think the only way that I ultimately get fulfillment in life as well, so it's also self-serving, is to take that self-actualization and apply it to something beyond myself, beyond yourself.
Like that's the point. So as always, appreciate you listening. There's more to come in a couple of few weeks. Thanks.
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