
Behind the Craft · 2026-07-12 · 47 min
Jared is a Builder in Residence at Cognition, the team behind Devin. He showed me why teams often overbuild their first agents, and how simple prompts, better tools, and self-testing work together instead. Then he demoed one manager agent breaking down a task, directing 10 cloud agents, and deciding what a human needs to review. Jared and I talked about: (00:00) Why teams overbuild their first AI agent (02:50) Let the model cook before adding rules (03:16) Why tools matter more than better prompts (10:51) Why you should build evals after shipping (16:06) What cloud agents can do that local agents can’t (20:30) How to get one agent to manage other agents (25:39) Demo: One agent launches a team of 10 (28:03) How agents prove their work before you review it (33:18) The best tasks for agent teams to work on Thanks to our sponsors: Riverside: All-in-one AI studio for podcasts and video Linear: The AI agent platform for modern teams Wispr Flow: 4x faster than typing with your voice Get the takeaways: Get my personal AI OS with useful AI skills, $270 in AI tool credits, live monthly workshops, and courses on Hermes and Codex agents: Where to find Jared: X: Devin: