#162 - Linda Hill & Jason Wild: The Leadership Model Behind Innovation That Scales

Episode notes

In a recent Outthinkers episode sponsored by LHH, host Kaihan Krippendorff is joined by Linda Hill (Havard Business School) and Jason Wild (WISE) to discuss what it takes to move innovation beyond isolated efforts and into something that can work across an entire organization They explore how strategy is shifting, from control to adaptability, what's actually driving advantage in 2026, and why progress depends on more than just advancing technology. The conversation covers: •⁠ ⁠Why ecosystems, not individual teams, are becoming the unit of innovation •⁠ ⁠The role leaders play as architects, bridgers, and catalysts - and what breaks when those roles are missing •⁠ ⁠Why culture is often the difference between ideas that scale and those that don't Episode timeline: 00:00 - Cold open: why no company can go it alone 00:30 - Sponsor: LHH 02:00 - “If you really know me…” (Linda + Jason) 03:35 - Definitions of strategy (optionality, choices, and adaptability) 08:40 - Why they wrote Genius at Scale 12:30 - Why ecosystems are rising (speed, capability gaps, AI) 17:00 - Can incumbents adopt an ecosystem approach?

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