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Zac Palmer’s Perpetual Growth Podcast

EPISODE #40: Scaling Smarter, Leading Better w/ Madeleine MacRae

Zac Palmer’s Perpetual Growth Podcast · 2025-09-24 · 48 min

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What does it really take to grow past the plateaus that hold so many businesses back? Zac Palmer welcomes business transformation expert Madeleine McRae to The Perpetual Growth Podcast for a deep dive into scaling smarter. She's the founder of ProQ Systems, Home Pro Toolbox, and the Legacy Leadership Institute. She’s helped businesses across nearly every major U.S. market smash through the $10M mark, and today she’s sharing the strategies that make it possible. This conversation is packed with insights you won’t find in a textbook: Why the “comfort zone” is actually holding you back (and how to break free) The 3 business owner archetypes - Entrepreneur, Artist, and Manager-Leader - and why knowing yours changes everything How franchises really grow beyond the blueprint The surprising power of hiring steady “B players” instead of chasing unicorns The overlooked domino every leader needs to tip over first when chasing scale Madeline brings a mix of candor, wisdom, and proven frameworks that help business owners turn stagnation into momentum - and success into something sustainable.

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