
Why Perfect Brands Fail & Honest Ones Build Advocacy (Like Ethique) ft. Erica Cocilova
Building Brand Advocacy · 2025-04-16 · 48 min
Episode notes
Why do polished brands stall, while real ones build Advocacy? Because today’s consumers don’t want perfection. They want proof. This week, Erica Cocilova (Chief Executive Officer @ Ethique Beauty) joins Verity in New York to unpack why substance, imperfection, and product obsession are the future of brand building. From rebrands & B Corp audits to salon takeovers that win over skeptics, Erica’s approach proves brand trust isn’t bought - it’s built. Solid product, transparent leadership, and customer service that actually puts you in contact with the CEO? They’re the building blocks to scaling with integrity. Rethink what brand love looks like, as you learn… How To Build Advocacy Through Service, Beyond Storytelling: Every customer DM, email, and piece of outreach gets a reply; and it’s personal. Real care builds real loyalty. It’s about accountability, not automation, when you build Advocacy this way. Ways To Turn IRL Conversations Into Scalable Content: From salon takeovers to consumer-led debates on hair washing habits, Erica shares how small, real-world moments are fuelling content that converts - and creating better educated, enthusiastic Advocates in the process.
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