The B2B Podcast Index
Make It Happen Mondays - B2B Sales Talk with John Barrows

Udi Ledergor: Courage Over Clichés in Modern Marketing

Make It Happen Mondays - B2B Sales Talk with John Barrows · 2025-09-22 · 1h 1m

Episode notes

Udi Ledergor is back on the pod—and this time, he’s bringing the fire behind Courageous Marketing , his new book that challenges everything safe, stale, and same-same in today’s crowded GTM world.As the former CMO of Gong during its hypergrowth years (multi-billion-dollar valuation, anyone?), and now Chief Evangelist , Udi knows firsthand how to build brands people actually love. In this episode, he and John dig deep into what separates average from iconic in today’s AI-drenched world of “best practices.”You’ll hear: Why courageous marketing requires risk, not just reach The 10-20% “crazy idea” budget every brand needs How sales and marketing can truly work together The real difference between vanity metrics and valuable growth How to craft a brand people feel , not just see Whether you’re a marketer looking to break the mold or a seller tired of lead-gen lip service—this episode is for you. Are you interested in leveling up your sales skills and staying relevant in today’s AI-driven landscape? Visit and let’s Make It Happen together!

Listen to this episodeAll Make It Happen Mondays - B2B Sales Talk with John Barrows episodes →