Can We Still Tell It’s Your Brand Without the Logo (with Jeni Bishop) | Ep. 236
Scrappy ABM · 2025-12-17 · 17 min
Episode notes
Account-based marketing teams want every interaction to build trust, not erode it. On Scrappy ABM , host Mason Cosby sits down with Jeni Bishop to focus on brand and design within ABM programs, rather than just talking about awareness. Jeni shares why every interaction is a touchpoint that either builds trust over time or breaks it when you show up differently each time. ㅤ Together, they walk through how to keep ads, content, emails, SDR outreach, and sales outreach consistent so a prospect doesn’t feel like they landed in the wrong place. Jeni explains her “take the logo off” test, why your company has to be the wrapper, and how overusing a target account’s colors, fonts, and logo can confuse people and erode brand trust. They also get into one-to-one versus one-to-few versus one-to-many ABM, how language from ICP research shapes messaging, and why branded solution terms come after problem language in the journey on Scrappy ABM . ㅤ Guest Bio Jeni Bishop is VP of marketing and head of brand at Cordial . She works at a MarTech company focused on orchestrations and customer journeys, and she brings a brand and design perspective to account-based marketing programs.