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How to Use AI Effectively: Smarter Ways to Work and Scale Your Business | Steve Wunker | 382

SaaS Fuel · 2026-04-23 · 48 min

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What if AI isn't just a tool to plug into your business — but a reason to redesign the entire thing? In this episode, Jeff Mains sits down with Steven Wunker, managing director of New Markets Advisors and bestselling author of AI and the Octopus Organization: Building the Super Intelligent Firm . Steven has been working in AI since 2012 and has advised dozens of Fortune 500 companies on how to unlock real growth through transformation — not just optimization. Steven challenges the "AI magic dust" approach most companies default to — sprinkling AI on top of existing workflows for marginal gains — and makes the case for something far more powerful: using AI to take over entire classes of tasks, redistribute decision-making to the front lines, and redesign how organizations actually work. Whether you're a SaaS founder thinking about your product roadmap or a leader rethinking your org structure, this episode will challenge you to think way bigger. Key Takeaways 4:13 — AI is the biggest shift of our lifetimes — bigger than smartphones Steve has been in AI since 2012 and helped launch one of the first smartphones in 1999.

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