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Innovating Leadership: Co-Creating Our Future

What’s the Point? Why Your Leadership Needs Purpose

Innovating Leadership: Co-Creating Our Future · 2025-09-09 · 40 min

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Guest: Ryan Gottfredson, Ph.D., leadership researcher Most leadership development fails because it focuses only on skills and knowledge, but real transformation happens deeper…all the way down to upgrading your mental operating system. Professor and researcher Ryan Gottfredson explains how upgrading your inner operating system (not just adding new “apps” of skills) shifts leaders from self-protection toward value creation. Together, Maureen and Ryan unpack his framework of Awareness, Altitude, and Upgrade, showing how leaders can move from being dependent thinkers toward truly interdependent leadership. Here's what Neil and Maureen cover: - Why only 1% of leaders reach the highest level of maturity; - Why 98% of leadership programs fail to create transformation; and - What Jack Welch, Alan Mulally, and Satya Nadella can teach us about long-term impact.. Other episodes you'll enjoy: - Bringing Clarity to Confusion with Terri O’Fallon & Kim Barta - Do It on Purpose with Nell Derick Debevoise - Leading with Care & Purpose with Raj Sisodia & Sudhanshu Palsule For daily wisdom from our guests, be sure to

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